New games this week: Boogie edition

Yeah, that's about all that's worth paying for this week. Waverace 64 was pretty above average, as I remember.

Another rockin' game for the whole family on the super-awesome-funnntime Wii!!!

How can we give you the right answer if you censor it? Censorship FTL!

He is a Booger.

No it's a.......yeah you're right. It's a booger.

that psychonauts should be in your console this very second.

It's a PS2 week for me. I'm working on Metal Gear Solid 3 and Final Fantasy XII.

Ive been playing nothing but Suikoden 5 for the past few weeks. I love that game. I used to always say SNES was my favorite console, but thinking about it now, it just might be PS2.

oh curmeo, you never give up, do you

I love how I've been getting motion-control for two generations now!

I hope Warhawk has been seriously reworked or it is going to get some serious laughing at.

So what's it like being jaw droppingly stupid? I'm really interested to know.

Did you seriously just compare the graphics of a flight simulator to a rhythym game?

Seriously?

Doh! One too many y's.

lol. congratulations to vidGuy, samfish and Anam: you three are officially a part of the 'Wii Are In Denial' club.


@Captain Jody Anthony XVIII,
it doesnt take much effort, really.


@vidGuy
if you're trying to infer that the motion-based controls justify the $60 price, you arent very intelligent. there is nothing collectively superior about the Wii Remote compared to the Sixaxis and the 360 controller: all three controllers have their strong and weak points as well as unique properties.


@samfish
in denial much? you must be president of the club.


@Anam
first of all Warhawk is not a flight simulator: its a flight combat game. a flight simulator would be Ace Combat 6 on 360. second of all, the fact that Warhawk and Boogie are different genres has nothing to do with my original arguement: all Wii games are last-gen looking and performing (as in A.I., physics, online gameplay etc.), not just Boogie.

I see you like to converse. No, I don't think motion-controls justify $60 (for any game), but I do think they can add to the enjoyment of the game. I've seen that with Wii Sports and I've experienced that with Tiger Woods and Madden. You said Boogie was "last gen performing"... obviously it has a completely new control scheme, so I'm not sure how it 'performs' the same as last-gen games like DDR.

I'll agree that all of the controllers have their strengths and weaknesses, but I find it hard for anyone to believe that the Sixaxis's motion control is equal to the Wii Remote's. The remote is by far much more accurate and versatile.

And as I said, unless Warhawk has been completely reworked it will be the definition of shovelware. AAA my ass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bt1SsAGhFk

shouldn't you be comparing EA games of similar genres and intents on both systems in order to make this point? Your comparison is stretched way too thinly here, Curmeo, its practically apples to oranges.

Also: when did Warhawk become AAA? I must have missed that memo somewhere...

@Curmeo

You are technically correct, which is the best kind of correct.

But still, flight simulator or flight combat game, you're still comparing a game that was intended to have ultra-realistic graphics to a rhythm game. You're trying to say Boogie is a bad deal because of its graphics... which don't really matter for a rhythm game.

If you want to compare PS3 graphics against Zelda, then your argument would make sense.

Oh Curmeo, what's it like to have Sony wipe your ass for you. I mean I imagine it takes a lot to have to stick up for Sony these days.

@vidGuy,

"No, I don't think motion-controls justify $60 (for any game), but I do think they can add to the enjoyment of the game. I've seen that with Wii Sports and I've experienced that with Tiger Woods and Madden."

i've had no problem admitting that.


"You said Boogie was "last gen performing"... obviously it has a completely new control scheme, so I'm not sure how it 'performs' the same as last-gen games like DDR."

Boogie has last-gen graphics, sound, and performance (A.I., physics, online gameplay capabilities etc.) as do all Wii games. keeping the above in mind, EA/Nintendo supporting a $60 pricetag solely/mainly based on a motion control scheme is what i have a problem with.


"I'll agree that all of the controllers have their strengths and weaknesses, but I find it hard for anyone to believe that the Sixaxis's motion control is equal to the Wii Remote's. The remote is by far much more accurate and versatile."

i've had no problem admitting that either. in my first reply, i said the Wii Remote isnt *collectively* superior to the Sixaxis and 360 controller. my arguement doesnt contradict what you said above.


"And as I said, unless Warhawk has been completely reworked it will be the definition of shovelware. AAA my ass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bt1SsAGhFk"

your YouTube video link was added on May 16, 2006, from the E3 2006 press conference where the developers were given just a few days to add Sixaxis motion controls to the game. today its August 6th 2007 so i suggest you check out this link, dated March 30th 2007: http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200704/N07.0430.1631.48164.htm?Page=1 ("The motion steering is very intuitive and natural.") google any updated hands-on impressions (GameSpot, IGN etc.) and you'll see praise for the motion controls and the fun factor. all signs point to Warhawk being AAA material.

"Physics"? Which rhythm games have physics?

Curmeo, the reason that Boogie is $60 is because it comes packaged with a microphone. Normal Wii games are only $50.

No one is denying that the PS3 has better graphics, AI, physics and sound, that's why it costs twice as much as a Wii. The point is that games like Boogie are a perfect example of the type of game that simply don't need the PS3s capabilities.

If someone tried to make a realistic racing game on a Wii, I would be right there with you saying that it would be flat-out better on a PS3. But you need to realize that there are plenty of games that the Wii is "good enough" to play.

Finally, many of us prefer artistic graphics to realistic graphics. In my opinion, Wind Waker looks better than anything on the PS3, and while obviously not all games will live up to that example, you can understand how a game doesn't need PS3 level graphics to look good artistically.

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Of course, I don't know why I'm bothering trying to argue with you, since you're by far the most single-minded person in these comments. But here's to hoping that you'll finally realize that Wii owners weren't tricked.

As far as I know, they are the same basic game with minor differences. Differences much more minor than that of the different Pokemon versions. I have no idea why Capcom releases so many versions, it really seems pointless.

Yeah, like the different colors for each generation of Pokemon. I forget what all the differences are.

I liked the Battle Network series, so I might check one of these out.

I would normally agree with you, but the 9.whatever score that GameSpot gave WarioWare lead to me wasting $50.

First time they've lead me wrong...