Xbox 360 only 17% shooter games (22% of 'good games')

It's just that 95% of the games people talk about on the 360 are shooters. 50% of the big sellers are fps games.

There's the shadow of Halo3 too.

And so far you have CoD2/3, Gears of War, Ghost Recon, Lost Planet, Dead Rising, and Rainbow Six Vegas.

GAmes that aren't strictly fps games like Saint's Row, Oblivion or Crackdown are pretty much fps games.

Who knew! I always thought of the 360 (and original Xbox) as a shooter system

Plenty of "action/adventure" are FPS and TPS spiritually mind you. This graph is most likely based on the games' own genre description, not how anyone would classify their gameplay. Action/adventure implies oblivion like RPG's with no RPG elements and platformer gameplay. I doubt they have a majority of those types of games to a tee on the 360 from what I have seen.

And the reason why it's thought of as a shooter system is because the best games for it are the shooters. The sports games are generic sports games as all sports games are, and action/adventure, as said above, usually have TPS and FPS elements to the extreme on the 360.

no matter what the numbers are microsoft and their consoles will always be seen as a fps box for the main reason that the original xbox owed most of it's success to halo and the 360's most publicised launch title was a fps.
microsoft continue to try and make the 360 a gaming console for casual and hardcore gamers alike. they should accept that for this generation at least casual gaming has been covered with the wii. microsoft's competition is the PS3 because there is space for two market leaders this generation and one of those spaces has already been filled with the wii it still remains to be seen who will dominate the hardcore market.

P.S sorry got a bit of topic there ;)

Well, my most played games on my 360 are NCAA Football 08, GH2, and Forza 2.

I own Gears of War, but never really played it :\

rfom, Mass Effect is as much a shooter as Drakes Fortune. I think a more balanced list would include (not shooters and exclusives):

PS3
Ratchet, Lair (although it looks like the reviews are poor/mediocre), Warhawk, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Folksoul, and MotorStorm. God of War 2 is pushing it, but I'll give that to you.

I didn't include White Knight Story because it's releasing in Japan on December 31 and won't likely see localization for 3-6 months. Resistance was released in 2006. I might as well include Gears of War or any of the other games released last year.

XBOX 360
Mass Effect, Forza Motorsport 2, Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, Lost Odyssey, Splinter Cell Conviction, Project Gotham Racing 4.

And of course there are the shooters Halo 3, Stranglehold, Bioshock, and Haze. Two are multiplatform and two are Xbox 360 exclusive (so far).

I'm most looking forward to Mass Effect, Heavenly Sword, Asassin's Creed, Blue Dragon, Bioshock, Lost Odyssey, Stranglehold, Rock Band, Guitar Hero III, Haze, and Uncharted.

If's a good time for PS3 and XBOX 360 owners, but it's a great time if you own both.

I agree that 3rd person and FPS should probably be smushed into the same category, especially since the two intertwine. Think Halo, primarily in first person perspective, but when you drive/ride a vehicle it's, guess what, third person!

If you ask me, the following are the REAL genres:

Murder Simulation
Button SMASHER
Senseless Wanderer
Wish Fullfillment
Fantasy (also called, Reality Escaper)
Brain Buster
aaaaaaand...
CGC, or Crappy Games Compilation (These typically have "Party" somewhere in the title and/or description).

I'd just like to mention that Mass Effect's RPG elements are far greater than it's reflex-based TPS elements. Combat is used with long-ranged weapons yes and is in real-time, but is also stat-based. Your character doesn't have a high skill with a pistol, then you're not going to be very effective.

Just because some keep calling Mass Effect an FPS, which makes no sense.

I'd just like to mention that Mass Effect's RPG elements are far greater than it's reflex-based TPS elements. Combat is used with long-ranged weapons yes and is in real-time, but is also stat-based. Your character doesn't have a high skill with a pistol, then you're not going to be very effective.

Just because some keep calling Mass Effect an FPS, which makes no sense.

Genre classification is far too fucked up anyway, I like all types of games, so as long as it's good quality and has a story genre i'm interested in then i'll like it.

The thought of FPS being for braindead shooting is stupid, an FPS could easily be classified as an RPG if it has the right features. (more of an RPG then an FF)

take away all the crappy film titles from that bunch of games... give them there own percentage... then see how many comparativly speaking are FPS/TPS compared to "good" games lol

This graph tells me that there's already 45% of the games that I don't care about on the 360.

Why can't the 360 have more good games like Folding@Home, Home, or Flow?

:P

It's definitely a perception thing, if you look at it literally like this.
But most of the non-shooter or sports games for the most part just flat out blow.
The only two games I'm interested in on the 360 are Kameo and Dead Rising. The other 135 titles? Not doing anything for me, really. Not at $60 bucks a pop, that's for sure.
Leaving aside tie-in and licensed games, I'd be really interested to see the what genres are selling best on each system in a few years.
I think developers would have a lot more success if they targeted systems and their user bases more carefully. Shooters obviously are the big draw on the 360. It's hard to quantify the PS3's audience still. And the core Nintendo base seems to go for platformers and established/classic franchises more than anything else.

Comparison circulations fond

"Genre classification is far too fucked up anyway, " - Mike453

I completely agree, and that is how it goes.

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I read all the comments, and noticed that there rather wasn't as many negatives as I had thought. The thing is categorizing games isn't easy, unless you have every game to begin with. I'd love for this study to improve over the coming days, i appreciate all the feedback that i was sent, and requests like 'bullet witch' is a tps, 'king kong' is a fps,(even though they go either way from other sources) etc..though it makes it much easier for me.its not as easy as it looks unless your own source is the game.

As someone requested, they wanted me to do a Xbox vs Xbox 360 genre comparison (as they were fond and interested of this work) as of which I was on my way with and also to upgrade this current comparison; (add single titles such like 1 of all madden; 1 of all ghost recon advanced warfighter), fps and tps break down into sci-fi, historic, fantasy, tactical(modern) and to update it with newly released titles and any missing titles and finally to finalize it.

Although, I am quite happy that there hasn't been any criticizing of any mistake.

Enjoyed doing this very much, and from this hopefully will lead to other studies (those that were posted above; sales, top 25 ranked, etc);


Thanks

Most when they see a first-person game will immediatly identify it as an FPS, despite more than half the game being without a gun, eg King Kong, Riddick, and Condemned, those could be classified as action adventures due to more than just run n gun. (though king kong is run n spear)

As I like most types of games I look to see if a game has any interesting gameplay elements and a story genre I like, it doesn't matter what the perspective of the game is to me, as long as it's quality and I like the theme i'll like it.

eM I'll keep that in mind/take into consideration,

Mike -


I completely understand what you are coming from.

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"Most when they see a first-person game will immediatly identify it as an FPS, despite more than half the game being without a gun, eg King Kong, Riddick, and Condemned, those could be classified as action adventures due to more than just run n gun. (though king kong is run n spear)
" - Mike

That's what I had told them. Many sent me feedback telling me that "i was wrong!" "condemned is a hardcore fps," etc. as well as a few other titles particuarly saints row, and chromehounds and a few others. Now, I realize that I should have put Crackdown in the action/Action Adventure department, even though it goes by tps also but k CHECK.

Usually I had classfied games on their top genre element like you mentioned as "more than" just a single genre. Action was a huge part of it, mainly because action refers to shooting, blowing up stuff, fighting, driving, etc like james bond movies ....heheh something i found over at wikipedia.

Now, if any wants to direct any questions to me you can just email (il be on this one - startthegameinc@aol.com ) any comments on the game list - http://fpssource.net/fpsstudy2.html is fine.


I'll be here as well.

Heh, I tried several times before to categorize my games collection by game genre, quite a complicated thing when you think hard about it.

I can't personally see why a game like Oblivion and Final Fantasy would be thrown into the same genre (RPG), whoever tries to categorize will always get criticism for their choices though...

Slightly off-topic, but I just wanted to say that I think Joystiq is a much better read now that they've gotten rid of the trolls.

We've had a passionate and intelligent debate on this issue for over 100 comments, and I've read very little trolling and blind fanboy-ism.


Kudos to Joystiq for providing this forum where gamers can passionately debate issues.

this chart feels fake the 360 advertisemnts dont show any really fun games other than shooters and the 22% feels like overall good games, dead rising, viva piniata, lost planet, gears of war,forza, condemned were the only good $60 games that are good and i hope this list doesnt include multiplatform games that exist on other consoles. theres arcade games are they all really that great to be put on the pie chart. 360 the amount great games are a joke for a system known to have the best games in next gen.

this chart feels fake the 360 advertisemnts dont show any really fun games other than shooters and the 22% feels like overall good games, dead rising, viva piniata, lost planet, gears of war,forza, condemned were the only good $60 games that are good and i hope this list doesnt include multiplatform games that exist on other consoles. theres arcade games are they all really that great to be put on the pie chart. 360 the amount great games are a joke for a system known to have the best games in next gen.

I have some problems with the stuff they called "action". If they are going to divide shooters into two different categories based, for the most part, on camera placement, then I would argue that there is no way that Armored Core, Dead Rising, Overlord, Splinter Cell, and Sonic are all the same genre.
Many of them, no matter what you want to classify them as, are far closer to shooter than to other traditional action genres.

I can't help but notice that the main gameplay in almost half of the action games is gunplay. Sure you might be inside a giant robot, you might be sneaking around in the shadows, you might play around in an open world setting in a car before you shoot people, but if you have a reticle and your primary means of attack is a gun, then it is at least an action/shooter.

What is really striking about the 360 library is not that there are so many shooters, but rather that elements of shooters are infused into so many action games. There is a distinct lack of solid brawlers/dungeon crawlers (even though they have often been ubiquitous in other console generations) and a depressing lack of good platformers. Hell, we could all have our cake and eat it too if something like ratchet and clank came to 360 (a platformer with SHOOTING!) but there is steady stream of shooters backed up by "gritty" action titles.

Give me one good platformer adorned in bright primary colors and featuring a anthropomorphic smartass. That's all I ask.
Either that or I'll just play Bioshock. I'm pretty sure I saw some primary colors in the demo for that game.

I don't know who told you that joystiq. The 360 is the stupid and monotonous sport games such as FIFA and Madden, and that can be seen in the chart. Nothing amazing if you know what you're talking about. A completely different thing is that the most known games are the few shooters it has.

J.G.F. you spoke to soon.

Here comes MYPS3KilledMy360 to act idiotic as usual!

Did some one say chuck norris ?

gst-
"I have some problems with the stuff they called "action". If they are going to divide shooters into two different categories based, for the most part, on camera placement, then I would argue that there is no way that Armored Core, Dead Rising, Overlord, Splinter Cell, and Sonic are all the same genre.
Many of them, no matter what you want to classify them as, are far closer to shooter than to other traditional action genres."

Keep in mind that it is Action and Action Adventure genre types merged together because its even harder to somewhat to decipher between the two. And I saw that the potential that another genre category was probably needed, however I didnt add it and didn't pull any titles that I saw didn't fit their respective category.


"I can't help but notice that the main gameplay in almost half of the action games is gunplay. Sure you might be inside a giant robot, you might be sneaking around in the shadows, you might play around in an open world setting in a car before you shoot people, but if you have a reticle and your primary means of attack is a gun, then it is at least an action/shooter."

I get that. but, Action has always been a part of the shooting genre. Wikipedia even has it down. Action is just a little bit more in depth then a traditional F/TPS.

"I'll just play Bioshock. I'm pretty sure I saw some primary colors in the demo for that game."

Can't wait for it! demo on marketplace nowz...fo realz

They are considered an "aggressive foreigner" in Japan, They need to work on that. Apple is american and sells a ton, why? because they don't like like an aggressive foreigner, they even write in the back of ipods "designed by Apple in California" leaving the USA makes us "rest of the world" feel like you are not helping american muscle, something a brand like "The X Box" screams american power, even give it a green color for that radioactive feeling japanese felt in 1940's. Maybe it's just fucking crazy, but just like you see the southern flag as a negative reminder of power, everyone sees american "power" as bad. You wanna sell? be the underdog, don't scream how powerful you are.

There's somethingI've always wondered. Why do people complain or try to put down a console that they were never planning on buying anyway? "Xbox only has FPS!" "Wii games are for kids!". Are you mad because the world doesn't cater to your needs? Don't buy it, save your money, and be happy that you're now got $350+ extra dollars that you wouldn't have had if every console had awesome game you wanted.

I'm curious as to what is the percentage of 360 exclusive games that are fps. I think that number will be higher than 22%