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Posted: Aug 14th 2007 12:33PM mr nimblewick said

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Hard to have an iconic generic man in a cyber armor.
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Posted: Aug 14th 2007 12:42PM Silver R Wolfe said

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Until you call him Master Chief.
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Posted: Aug 14th 2007 12:45PM mr nimblewick said

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The exception that proves the rule. But compare his status in the general public compared to a mario, sonic, or lara croft.

A movie would certainly help.
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Posted: Aug 14th 2007 1:43PM Assmar said

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You didn't find out Samus was a woman in a cybernetic suit until the end of one of the games, so you can count her as another exception.
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Posted: Aug 14th 2007 1:33PM samfish said

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Master Chief hasn't reached icon status.
Not yet, at least.

Let's see if he's still around and popular in 10 years (I have my doubts, personally).
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Posted: Aug 14th 2007 3:02PM (Unverified) said

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If Microsoft wanted to make sure Master Chief reaches "iconic" status they could always do to him what Nintendo does to their characters from back when they made new games.
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Posted: Aug 14th 2007 3:47PM Vidikron said

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Guess MS needs to put MC into some baskball, tennis, and soccer games... maybe give him his own mini-game collection and fighter too. Basically, just whore him out in every type of game possible.
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Posted: Aug 14th 2007 12:41PM Assmar said

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Although "Cruz" as the last name would have better explained the big ass and tits.
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Posted: Aug 14th 2007 12:48PM freelance said

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Yeah whatever! The problem with laura was after 2 releases the character became bigger than the game itself. That Iconic character is just some crap the dreamed up to get more revenue through merchandising.
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Posted: Aug 14th 2007 12:50PM freelance said

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Yeah whatever! The problem with laura was after 2 releases the character became bigger than the game itself. That Iconic character is just some crap the dreamed up to get more revenue through merchandising.
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Posted: Aug 14th 2007 12:57PM (Unverified) said

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I like more Lara Cruz :(.

I got it,they need to make kid friendly versions of those games to appeal the casuals.I can already see a kid friendly agent 47,awesome.
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Posted: Aug 14th 2007 1:29PM heytherekiller said

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So Lara Croft was originally supposed to be a latina chick until they decided that being a minority isn't iconic enough?


::cough:: Dora ::cough::
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Posted: Aug 14th 2007 1:44PM Assmar said

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Speaking of Dora, here's your latest Mattel recall list:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6946752.stm

Be safe!
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Posted: Aug 14th 2007 1:42PM freelance said

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Yeah, kind of similiar to that whole Kratos thing.
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Posted: Aug 14th 2007 2:22PM (Unverified) said

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The guy in charge in China commited suicide but I believe it was a homicide.
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Posted: Aug 14th 2007 1:28PM heytherekiller said

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ALSO

Wouldnt it be infinitely better if it were:

Legacy of Kain and Lynch
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Posted: Aug 14th 2007 1:45PM heypaul said

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All being "iconic" really means is that there's been enough sequels for people to actually remember the character. I pose the challenge for all of us to think of an icon who's only been in one game. Maybe some of those Final Fantasy characters?
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Posted: Aug 14th 2007 1:59PM (Unverified) said

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instead of angelina jolie we would have...penelope cruz? salma ha..w..yek?

the movie would still be crap.
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Posted: Aug 14th 2007 2:00PM (Unverified) said

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Just.rob please read http://rous.redbarn.org/objectivism/Writing/DavidKing/GuideToObjectivism/FALLACYS.HTM#210
most notibly 1. FALSIFIED INDUCTIVE GENERALIZATION 2. SPURIOUS SUPERFICIALITY and 3.AMBIGUOUS COLLECTIVE.
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Posted: Aug 14th 2007 2:31PM (Unverified) said

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Great. We need more iconic characters. Why don't you just go out and make them?

Basketball needs more iconic players. So does baseball. Why don't the players just become iconic?

Oh, wait, maybe it's because nothing you personally do matters when it's all based on the perception of other people!
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Posted: Sep 17th 2007 9:24PM (Unverified) said

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uh.. of course what developers do matters, since they make the characters and all. If a character is interesting or unique (and the game is popular enough) it will be remembered.
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Posted: Aug 14th 2007 3:01PM (Unverified) said

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What makes Mario unique? He's got a brother that's just a palette swap from him. You don't decide a character's lasting legacy. You can hype the character all you want, and he can disappear, or you can create a side character in a game who is so beloved they're instantly recognizable.

You can control some of it, but you can't control public perception. If there aren't iconic characters, it's because the public didn't care to make them iconic.
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Posted: Aug 14th 2007 3:07PM (Unverified) said

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Mario is a plumber who throws fireballs, grows by eating mushrooms, and kills things by hopping on them... thats pretty unique.
Not to mention all the nostalgia, that and the fact that Nintendo continuously milks him.
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Posted: Aug 14th 2007 3:32PM mr nimblewick said

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Mario became an icon long before nintendo milked him.
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Posted: Aug 14th 2007 3:52PM Vidikron said

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It's a combination of all of these things. Mario was in some great games and was also part of the resurrection of the gaming industry. And Nintendo keeps him in everyone's minds by pimping him out. It doesn't have to be one thing or another, it's a combination.
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Posted: Aug 14th 2007 5:42PM JimJim said

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Who could be more iconic than my avatar (Mario)?
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Posted: Aug 14th 2007 8:20PM Cabcru said

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Would Lara still be 'iconic' if Tomb Raider had bombed? I mean, Daikatana was published by Eidos, wasn't it?
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Posted: Aug 14th 2007 10:49PM Grey Acumen said

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You know why there aren't any memorable video game characters?

There are about 3 major reasons:

1) A video game character generally has little character development. In a game, too much character development can just get in the way of playing the game.

2) The main character in a video game is typically controlled by the Player, therefor their personality is augmented partially BY the player. They cannot have a completely full personality of their own.

3) Characters typically don't get cameos in other games. Laura Croft doesn't show up in metal gear solid games. Mario doesn't show up in Hyrule. Master Chief doesn't make a guest special on the Scooby Doo movies.
Mario is perhaps one of the best known video game icon, and what is the one thing he had in the beginning of his career? CAMEOS OUT THE WAZOO. Punch out had mario, Mario golf, Mario Tennis, Mario Kart, Mario 1 2 3, Super Mario, Mario RPG, Paper Mario, Mario Party, Smash Bros has Mario... etc...

A lot of the well known actors and cartoon characters have this as well. Many episodes, crossovers with other series, cameo appearances and parodies, bit parts on other series, etc.

If video games want similar recognition, they need to use similar tactics. That's really all there is to it.
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Posted: Aug 15th 2007 5:43AM ZippyDSMlee said

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No btch what we need is solid fun games that are bugless and are supported up to a year after its launched not these fire and forget poo games you and your beatches in teh suits ball out like anal beads and force the market to get rid of...er sale....

Do us all a favor drop the shallow BS and get back tog gameplay first story/charatcers 2nd and graphics last....
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