PS3 'gamercard' option seen during demo

is it really stealing from Microsoft? i mean a gamertag is basically a profile, which is ridiculously generic.

The only thing I could say Sony ripped off was the name.

They are actually, the cell proc, BD in their console. It's just funny that fanboys attack the things they did differently from MS and then attack the things they borrow as well.

Bottom line: All consoles/companies are "borrowing" from their competitors successes and mixing it with their own innovations for their approach to market.

Holy crap! They even stole "invite to private conversation"! Does Sony have no morals?

Oh i dont really care either way, sony got big from copying.

I only really care about the games, I couldnt care less what nintendo/sony/microsoft do to their hardware as long as it doesnt make the experience worse.

Agathos, the BD was an attempt by Sony to boost Blu-ray sales. Thats not innovative, and it definitely causes performance problems. Example; the BD in the PS3 is 1x speed. That leads to horrible load times and games requiring an "install" when you first load the game where it caches much of them memory. Second, BD doesn't increase quality of the picture, as it is all rendered by the system anyway (not counting movies), and just means you can fit more on a disc- so you're just paying roughly 150 dollars more than you should on the console for a simple convenience (not having to switch out discs).

Also, the Cell processor isn't innovative. The Cells they have in servers is innovative, and the Cell in the PS3 is so hard to program for, that any performance increase isn't worth it- especially when that performance increase isn't much of anything.

PS3 should have stuck to DVD9 and a conventional processor and upped the GPU from the G70 they have in there (slightly different, but hey, its close enough and roughly equivalent in power), they would have had a REAL contender in this gen's console line up.

The PS3 cannot compare to the 360's power- not in any real world situations. Theoretically, it blows the doors off of the 360, but then again, it doesn't reach anywhere near the theoretical numbers (floating point is half of what Sony said), even in optimized tests.

PS3 should have left Cell processors to the PCs for programming methods to be pioneered before putting it in a restricting environment (consoles), and they also should have waited for BDs to lower in cost...

"They are actually, the cell proc, BD in their console."

Those aren't innovations, just advancements in technology. There is a difference.

Are you serious? If there's a single product that made Sony big, it's the Walkman - lemme guess, that's just a copy of the "Walkgirl", right?

Innovation is bringing new things to the market that have never been done before. Consoles have had computer processors in them since the beginning. Sony putting the cell in the PS3 does not make them an innovator. XBOX Live! is innovative. The Wiimote is innovative.

Sony is not.

Well, in that case dsub, neither xbox live nor the wii more are innovative, since in one form or another they have been done before...

Are you attempting to point out that most things never live up to the amount of innovation people think they do? Or were you just hating on Sony and proving yourself to be a total asshat in the process?

...uhm the one with a massive failure rate?

You mean like the PS2's 50+% failure rate?

Ever own an iPod? Yeah, the failure rate of iPods doomed them for when Zune came, right? (chuckle)

It's just that this sort of thing and Live/Home whatever they're calling it should have been on the system at launch. If it jumped into the market without even being a competative product for the 360 then, well, hello reality.

I know ¨consoles are for games¨ blah blah, but the amount of time I've spent making Mii's and just using my 360 for MSN when my PC fried. They're great added value.
PS3 needed an extra year in the oven.

you rang?

present and accounted for sir!

Alright men. You know why you're here. Proceed with the tirade!

That might have been the best post I read all day..

Well they don't call them achievements, you get trophies.

THIS IS SONY!!!!!!!

Dang it Crono, beat me to it >_

Slow-mo shot of Phil Harrison kicking Microsoft execs down a well...

Actually, Phil looks a bit too much like Xerxes to pull off that image.

Agreed. If Sony is going to copy ideas they should at least change the name to make it less obvious.

Anyone who says competition is good never owned a dreamcast. Le sigh...

Yeah, exactly. It's super awesome that Sony are doing this because its a great feature that I think all the consoles can benefit from, but why is it the exact same name as the xbox version? XD

And then you woke up...

As much as I'd like to see dedicated servers on the 360, I don't think that the PS3 model will last too long. I'm pretty sure that the dedicated servers are funded by Sony or the company who developed it, IE one organisation. Dedicated servers work on PC, because each is individually owned, if one company is footing the bill, either it's too expensive to keep going, or there aren't enough servers to go round.

Yeah, not to mention those are for a SINGLE GAME- that game is Warhawk. Everything else is hosted off the console itself.

Nice try, though.

That's how it works. PSN is constantly bashed for missing features that Live has, but as they continue to add more and more of these features they are bashed for copying. Welcome to the wonderfully ignorant world of fanboys!

Cool, someone else already pointed it out. Although, it would be all-around better if they could come up with something other than gamer card...

Except now the PSN isn't quite so free. With games shipping without online on ps3 and with it on 360, it comes with a price. Then there is the much greater price of actually having to pay to get certain games online as is the case with tekken and MGS.

Anyone who buys Metal Gear online forfeits the right to complain about Live pricing since you just paid 60 bucks for MGS4 online. As for lag, I suggets you learn to set up your network better, because I don't get lag on live. EVER. i used to get it if I was torrenting something and my wii was accessing the net, but even those don't lag me anymore.

And they key thing about that 50/year....is that it is per year. ask anyone if they'd rather pay in installments or all at once and I think you;ll find that most people are confident in their ability to scrape together 50 bucks per anum.

Depends on where you look but live subscriptions can be found for as low as 40$ a year, and thats not bad at all. I would rather pay for a wonderful unified service rather than a gobbed together compilation of rip off after rip off.

Who cares about defects, it will be replaced. Hell, my console from november 05 still runs, no hiccups. I wont knock on wood because I don't question it. In addition I bet the PS3 would have a higher defect rate, then again, it can't have a system failure sitting on the shelf. Thats just a failure in general.