In2Games to unveil Wii-like PS2 peripherals

People are paying more for Wii and it's no better

they arnt really copying teh wii, each of those add osn are designd to play with just teh game they come with.

the wiimote works with all the games, and its also the systems standerd controller. add on controllers really dont catch on.

but guitar hero is actually a good game, and you know that ther is going to be sequals.

theses are one shot turds made by a company that is more used to making control devices. Unless these games are super amazing and have any sort of hype, they will fail.

WOW, you an idiot exo. Everyone already has a PS2 and this will be a very cheap investment for parent who cannot afford the Wii.

Also, have you played the games for this add-on? I'm pretty sure you have not. And also how would of known that Guitar Hero would be good before it came out?

Why when 100M+ people have a PS2?

Do you know of any other 10 million system selling motion sensing control gaming device?

Perhaps not, but Halo isn't the first sci-fi FPS, either. They didn't create anything new, they merely perfected the formula. (Not saying Halo is perfect, saying it's perfect for it's target audience)

I suppose it had has to be said... AGAIN.

Sales =/= Innovation. Otherwise, we'll be looking at Madden as a much more innovative game than Bioshock or Trauma Center. But we're not. So please, heavenlysoldier, next time you trot out sales figures as evidence of innovation, please keep in mind those two things are NOT related to each other. Never have been, never will be.

As for who's done it first, well, the first attempt by a massive company came from Microsoft in the form of the Sidewinder tilt sensing controller. Of course this is only from the bigger companies. Naturally smaller companies have been toying with the concept for years. Either through the use of peripherals that didn't work (U-Force) or Arcade technology (Dance Maniax). Or even the dedicated machinery like PlayTV from Radica. Hell, even turning it into a single console wasn't something Nintendo tried first as Xavix lies in ruins, having been officially raped of every single game and concept on the device, in favor of the Mii loaded variety.

So tell ya what, we can debate whether or not Nintendo is the first to bring it mainstream even though it's hardly a debate. PlayTV came the closest to what Wii has achieved. But just because Nintendo is the first to hit that 10 million sales figure with this idea doesn't mean they are the first one WITH this idea.

Best way to put it is this... Nintendo is not so much a chef as a cook. A chef takes new ideas, creates all new masterpieces of technology, and for the most part, is ignored unless hyped by some innane TV station. A cook grabs everything that's handy, dumps it all in, calls it their own special stew. Not a single thing is new in the Wii. But Nintendo's ability to mix it all together is what made the Nintendo DS and also the Wii runaway successes. I mean, it may be the most popular stew, but it's still a stew. And personally, I'm waiting for them to throw some meat into this stew. A guy can survive off carnival games and PS2 ports for only so long.

Sheppy, it's a first because this is the first time any of the big players have had the sheer balls to make an unconventional controller like that the standard controller for their games console.

When you're developing for the Wii, you're using the wii remote. No other motion sensitive controller has ever come anywhere close to receiving that kind of attention, because they were simply obscure add-ons.

It was a huge risk, and it paid off. Like the DS.

Sheppy is right, sales and innovation don't go hand in hand, necessarily.
However, sales and innovation DO go hand in hand when it results in changing the industry over all.
See also: N64 and analog sticks/rumble.

You could argue that this is already the case with the Sixaxis and cash-in devices like this. I'd also bet my left hand that Sony and Microsoft are going to have Wiimote-like controllers in some way or another next time out.

Just because one does something first doesn't mean they get or deserve all the innovation credit.

The Wiimote is very unique and innovative. It combines an IR pointer system, gyroscopes, rumble, an analog stick attachment with accelerometers, a speaker, and other various buttons into one input device for a game console.

I just can't see how people can argue that just because the individual components appeared in other obscure periphreals appeared previously that the combination of all the components into a two handed tethered default pad for a major console is not innovative.

It is innovative, as much as you may hate it.

I think it was. It did it with the powerglove.

"A cheap way to cash in on motion sensing controls."

Isn't the wii trying to do the same thing?

@Matt B

You do realize that he didn't say that, right?

Isn't the fun of wii sports about motion sensing controls?

@Matt B: I didn't say that. I have nothing against the control scheme. I'm talking about trying to replicate a game on another system, but under a different name, presentation and control settings. In other words, a knockoff.

I didn't copy you verbatim, it was a generalization based on your comment I too wii sports as a basis for motion controls. Am I wrong? We are talking about devices that use motion controls for the bulk of the entertainment side of things.

@ Matt B: Yes you are wrong because what you "quoted" from me implies different meanings. You can choose Wii Sports as a basis for motion controls if you wish, but don't consider them synonymous. Do I say that a game is synonymous to its control input? Does Halo = controller and shoulder buttons? When a game is to be considered as a Halo knockoff, is it to be considered as a controller knock off?

SILENCE MAN! Everyone knows there were no such thing as interactive sports video games with identical controls or even dedicated machinery to the concept (www.xavix.com) before Nintendo came along. To even suggest as such is blasphemy.

Oh good, someone is talking about Xavix as if it's any good. Good going Shep.

Besides there were peripherals like that before Xavix. It's all BS.

That's what the Zune said to the iPod.

But the Zune isn't $100 less than the ipod.

Ask any of the cheaper iPod knockoffs if that makes a difference.

Also, what makes you think it'd be $100 dollars cheaper than the Wii?

You are underestimating the number of gamers who bought a Wii for the Nintendo first party games and the Virtual Console. Some of us actually like Nintendo games, regardless of the hardware behind them.

Personally, I'm not really impressed with motion sensing. Still waiting for a game that feels like it actually *needs* it.

As far as games that *NEED* it go, I could never play a golf or bowling game again. Hell, I actually bought a golf game.
...and I hate REAL golf.

Also, Resident Evil 4.
If the rumor/wishful thinking that Capcom will down-port Resident Evil 5 for the Wii is true, I'd buy that over the 360 or PS3 version in a heartbeat. I can barely imagine going back to playing it with a conventional controller.
It was more than just more precise aiming. The feeling of whipping your gun around corners and stuff was just SO much more satisfying.

And supposedly, Metroid is about to turn FPS gaming on it's head, if the word on it's controls are true (although I don't like FPS games anyway).


Sure, those types games obviously don't NEED motion controls, as they've been done before without them. You could play those games using a giant trackball or a cellphone or with those air drum thingies if you're creative enough.
In that sense, though, nothing NEEDS motion controls. A car doesn't NEED a windshield. You don't NEED underwear. But why would you go without them?

@samfish

First, I should clarify that I *am* impressed with the sensor bar/aiming mechanics of the Wii, but that's not the same as motion sensing. For example, Resident Evil 4 is at least twice as fun on the Wii compared to the Gamecube, but that's because of the aiming, not the motion sensing parts where you wave the controller to reload or slash with a knife. Those parts I think are no more intuitive than pressing a button, and sometimes worse.

I'll admit that maybe motion sensing is great for sports games, I wouldn't know because I barely play sports games. I tried out Wii Sports just because it was free, but I wasn't overly impressed. Tennis is kind of fun, but the controls feel inconsistent. Is it more fun than other tennis games? I wouldn't know.

I probably shouldn't have used the word "need," as you pointed out. But I mean that motion sensing seems to me to be less revolutionary than say, the analog stick, which dramatically changed the way we play games. Rather, motion controls feel more like rumble to me. Kind of cool in theory, but doesn't seem to make much of a difference 95% of the time.

I'm not against motion controls, and I'm still hoping to being blown away by a game that really uses them, but I just haven't seen that yet.

You mean you think a game on a Playstation console is going to be better than a game on the Wii? I'm shocked.

Wii Sports doesnt even make use of the Wiimote pointer function. these 6 Realplayer games wouldnt need it either.