LGC07: Kojima-san introduces Metal Gear Solid 4's boss characters

Are boss battles considered next gen?

Boss battles weren't even last gen (see Halo 2 ending controversy). However, I like them anyway, so screw the haters.

Agreed. The bosses look fucking stupid, even the old man from MGS3 is cooler than all of them combined.

The moral here is: DON"T mess with women!

Well look dude, I'm not saying only fanboys like it. Sorry if you took it this way. All I'm saying is that I don't. Then made a realization that it doesn't really matter, whether I like it or not, or whether you do or not, because this is MGS. And MGS has more fanboys than there are trees in the world.

Mudbeed, I think it's funny that you admit you don't like the gameplay and are only concerned with the story unfolding to you in cut-scenes. I think you are in luck with this one. Seriously, how much actual demo footage have we seen on this game? 5 minutes? Honestly Kojima, just go make movies, it's clearly your preferred medium.

There's a 15-minute gameplay video around, narrated by Kojima, and yes that's 15 minutes of gameplay.

Actually JJ to the Rooster. 15 full minutes of sweet action gameplay footage. Frick its being released in another half a year. They're not going to give a full hands-on at this moment - it'll ruin all the hype.

I personally fully agreed with Mudbeed. I love it for the story.

Gameplay in MGS3 was a bit too complicated, and its a bit difficult to get used to. But apparently they're warping all that for the better. It'll have some similarities, but really you've GOT to be impressed if they can fit those controls into a nice intuitive control system. I mean Snake in the game can do like frickin anything you want him to lol.

Honestly, we love MGS for a REASON. You don't (bold) always (unbold) have fanboys/girls flocking to games, because ... everyone else does. I think what Kojima has done so far in this last hit to the series is absolutely spectacular. And you can't doubt some of the stuff he does throughout the MGS series is whickedly awesome.

... and lol @ Genius - English dictionary Jem. Haha.

Sorry guys, you're right. I did the see the 15min gameplay earlier, but it felt like 5 minutes with all the "pause-menu-change camo-pause-menu-scroll weapons" stuff that really takes you out of the game world. Don't you think this game would have released this year if Kojima was concerned with gameplay instead of camera angles?

I wouldn't worry. If you can hold off and borrow some patience from the Europeans, it'll be on the Xbox 360 before you know it!

Here, I got this card for you.

http://bigpicture.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/urban_asshole_1.jpg

poor apotheosis-san...

@apotheosis.x

Don't worry. Nihongo-philes just like to wave their cocks in people's faces. See, they aren't Japanese enough not to be called "gaijin," but they still think they're better than you. Ignore them and they'll eventually lose interest and return to playing with their Katana blades and reading Lafcadio Hearn.

Joystiq writes about who is in the freaking news, and guess what? It has been Sony for the past few days.

Who cares?

You do realize that he's a writer for PS3 Fanboy, which is as much of a part of Joystiq as XBox360 Fanboy and Nintendo Wii Fanboy. They probably sent him to save on airfare since he's already in Europe.

Notice the lack of any and all harsh criticism in this post. Here, we see the Curmeo in his natural environment. When the Curmeo steps outside of its comfort zone, it explodes into a vitriolic rage.

and upon seeing the Curmeo's comment, the megaDouche tries going up the Curmeo's ass, as usual.

Are you serious? Jesus christ I know that you're a rabid fanboy, but this takes the cake. Spielberg can kick Kojima's ass any fucking day.

It's karma. You needlessly troll Nintendo topics or make anti-Nintendo comments when the topic at hand has nothing to do with Nintendo. As a result, I troll you.

"these boss characters are absolutely stunning. man Kojima is a legend, the Spielberg of games."

This sort of hyperbole only invites criticism and suspicion. Who even talks like that? Other than shills, that is.

megaDouche, care to show an example of what you claim i do? lets see what you got, chump.

Gladly.

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/22/pro-evolution-soccer-2008-coming-to-wii-in-2008/
"Aug 22nd 2007 8:39AM 'you can likely expect a complete overhaul of the control method.'

oh you mean tacked on waggle controls, gotcha."

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/17/todays-most-first-person-waggle-video-metroid-prime-3/
"Aug 17th 2007 8:29AM a GameCube level game with waggle controls on a $250 overpriced system? thanks ill pass."

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/03/warhawk-dated-august-28th-digital-and-retail-prices-announced/
"Aug 4th 2007 8:56AM thats cool. i actually meant to contrast Warhawk with any online Wii game, say Mario Strikers Charged."

All I did was take a quick look at your postings through your profile. I picked three from the last few weeks, and of course not including and quotes from the Wii shortage topic.

That was a truly sweet burn.

agreed.

hey megaDouche,

"It's karma. You needlessly troll Nintendo topics or make anti-Nintendo comments when the topic at hand has nothing to do with Nintendo. As a result, I troll you."

my first two comments *are* related to Nintendo. let me try helping you out. a troll comment would be "Nintendo sucks." thats what a troll comment is. all three comments of mine are based on valid arguements, as i and some others see it. you not liking my comments is another thing.

only my third comment wasnt Nintendo related. i think thats the only comment ive made on Joystiq that wasnt Nintendo related. but that wasnt a troll comment either. it vas a valid point, as i see it. if it was a troll comment, i would say "MSC sucks" without giving any valid reasons why i feel that way.

try again megaDouche. we both know i yet again win this arguement.

"my first two comments *are* related to Nintendo. let me try helping you out. a troll comment would be 'Nintendo sucks.' thats what a troll comment is. all three comments of mine are based on valid arguements, as i and some others see it. you not liking my comments is another thing."

These are his "valid arguments":

Curmeo on tuning Pro Evolution Soccer to Wii controls: "oh you mean tacked on waggle controls, gotcha."

Curmeo has traveled into the future and learned beyond a shadow of a doubt that those extra months yielded absolutely nothing. I mean, how else would he know that the game's controls were just plain waggle?

Curmeo on Metroid Prime 3: "a GameCube level game with waggle controls on a $250 overpriced system? thanks ill pass."

All the early praise from various gaming outlets who have had hands-on experience with the completed build be damned. Never mind that these outlets have touted the controls as the best or some of the best in any console FPS, much less for a Wii game. Forget that thinking that "value for your buck" is a vague factor that varies from person to person. Curmeo hasn't played the game, but HE knows. He always knows.

"only my third comment wasnt Nintendo related. i think thats the only comment ive made on Joystiq that wasnt Nintendo related. but that wasnt a troll comment either. it vas a valid point, as i see it. if it was a troll comment, i would say 'MSC sucks' without giving any valid reasons why i feel that way."

Curmeo on Warhawk online: "thats cool. i actually meant to contrast Warhawk with any online Wii game, say Mario Strikers Charged."

Now why would a discussion on Warhawk online lead to a Wii comparison? Notice how he doesn't want to compare the online component to Xbox Live, which I am told is the PSN's closest competitor. It's almost common knowledge that the Wii has the least robust online system, but why would Curmeo pit one single PS3 game against any and all current and future Wii online games? Why wouldn't he measure it against a single similar title on the comparable Xbox 360? He is about 100% certain that Warhawk has better online than all the Wii games combined, but he seems to want to stroke his ego by throwing them into the ring anyway just to prove he's right.

Notice also how he doesn't give reasons why he thinks Warhawk's online is better than, say, Mario Striker Charged's online.

Those are some pretty bad burn marks there, Curmeo

first off megaDouche, nothing i said is false.

i said: "oh you mean tacked on waggle controls, gotcha". its true. the game will have tacked on waggle controls since its a port.

then i said: "a GameCube level game with waggle controls on a $250 overpriced system? thanks ill pass." notice i didnt use the words "tacked on" since MP3 isnt a port. everything in the quote is correct. it is a GameCube-level game, it does feature waggle controls, and Wii is overpriced since the $250 isnt fully worth one's money since Nintendo doesnt sell the hardware at a loss, compared to the competition.

then i said: "thats cool. i actually meant to contrast Warhawk with any online Wii game, say Mario Strikers Charged" this is the only quote, out of the three you used, that i refered to Nintendo even though the topic was about Warhawk. even then my comparison is true. Warhawk's online options dwarf MSC's online options as well as any presently available online Wii game.

oh yeah and Xbox Live is $50 a year. PSN is free, like Wii's online service. so why should i compare PSN to Xbox Live?

Curmeo wins again.

Haven't there been tentacles in almost all of his games?

I seriously think Kojima has some tentacle fetish.

Or... maybe it's because they indeed look gay.

It's funny that you say that considering that you're probably the first person on this thread to bring up the 360. You know, people are allowed to hate on the MGS series, Kojima, or the MGS4 bosses without being "fanboys" of another system.

Personally, I'm stoked for this game, even moreso after seeing that video. I'm really excited by the fact that this game seems like it's actually going to focus more on gameplay than the others, which have pretty awful control/animation when you compare them to most shooters/stealth titles. Plus, the in-engine cutscenes look really frikkin good.

I've played all three games and I'm bashing this game. It doesn't look interesting at all.