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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 9:06AM (Unverified) said

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"Will Metal Gear Solid 4 ever come to 360, like the previous titles as a "subsistence" package?

Right now it's only being made for PS3. No plans for 360 for now."

Christ man, just say no. If it is never coming to the 360 then TELL us so we can figure out how to justify buying a console for one game to ourselves. If it is, tell us so we can NOT waste 600 bucks to play one game.

It is very simple: just say "MGS4 will not come to the 360." or "MGS4 will come to the 360 a few months later."

It is quite easy Kojima, quite easy indeed.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 10:50AM (Unverified) said

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dude you won't believe this.. about 2 months ago there was this crazy thing, sony drop the price of the ps3.. it's now only $499... anyhow.. it's ok..

but you should really try other games, i mean the ps3 is gonna last you quite a few years.. and if you're planning on playing only one game in it that does kinda suck.. but guess what..

this is the best part.. even if it comes out on the 360 you can still play it on the ps3.. isn't that amazing.. anyhow.. just trying to make you feel better bro.. and maybe less of a troll..
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 10:58AM (Unverified) said

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Because wanting an end to speculation one way or another=troll?

Good logic there.

And I won't be buying a ps3 until MGS4 comes out, possibly later, by which time the price will have gone back up to 600.Before then I'd have to rebuy the controller anyway.

And I HAVE tried the ps3. A freind has one. But i hate racing games so that takes care of about half of its lineup. I can't stand games made by insomniac, naughty dog so their games aren't an option. And since god of war isn't coming for about a year, that leaves the number of ps3 games I am interested in and can't play a better version of on the 360 at MGS4.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 11:19AM (Unverified) said

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He responded that way because even he has to bow to a higher authority: shareholders.

Mark my word, this will be on the 360 in time for the 2008 holiday season.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 12:16PM KiraXD said

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@ marasai
racing games = half of the ps3 line-up... what?

so NFS, RR and Motorstorm = half eh?

i hate FPS games so that takes care of about all of the 360 right? and since i hate bungie games.... halo isnt even an option... (360 has more lame racing games than ps3 fyi) that was the dumbest statement ive heard.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 12:27PM (Unverified) said

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@ kira

Then maybe you shouldn't buy an xbox? I was stating why i didn't really want a ps3, not that there is no reason. think before flaming.

Of the list of ps3's good games out now, the only exclusives are RFOM, VF5, Motorstorm, ridge Racer 7, Sigma. And if we take out VF5 due to the superior 360 version, that makes racing titles about half of the exclusive ps3 lineup for now.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 12:42PM SSUK said

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@BulletToothTony

You're a bit incorrect there. You see, what happened was at the end of June the $499 60GB PS3 went bye-bye and was replaced by the $599 80GB PS3. So for the time being, there are still SOME $499 PS3 consoles knocking around in America, but by the time MGS4 rolls around next year, those magically priced consoles will all be gone and you'll be stuck with the only option of the $599 80GB PS3 console.

So, in reality it wasn't a price drop, just, as some people say; a 'clearance sale'.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 1:02PM KiraXD said

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@marasai

actually i have both consoles because i like games on both platforms... im just pointing out how stupid it makes you sound by pissing on about the crap games on one single console, and pointing out your inaccuracies about racing games.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 9:10AM (Unverified) said

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I'm with Marasai; it's a yes or no question, answer it!

Him not saying no is making me think that at one point this game will make its way over to the 360.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 9:25AM heypaul said

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From the way the question was phrased, it'd be difficult to say 'no,' even if that was the answer.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 11:22AM (Unverified) said

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It's very easy to say "NO" -- Gears of War will NOT be on a PS3; nor will HALO; nor will BioShock ("Xbox360 and Windows only!")

Similarly, we know of certain PS3 exclusives that will NOT make their way to the 360 (Killzone, Warhawk, Lair).

See, it's really quite easy to completely disclaim a port.

That being said, I am no fanboy -- I would be delighted if all games were on all systems.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 9:17AM PS36020 said

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If this is coming to 360 it wont be ported by kojima, he refuses to port his games to other consoles. He will just do that same thing as for old mgs games where it was handed to other developers to port, which wouldn't be good for the 360 version because i guarantee who ever ports it will screw it up. but no matter i have both system, but i wrater buy it for the system it was designed for Halo 3 and Mass Effect will keep my 360 going until the unfortunate day when i'll be on the phone asking for a coffin.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 9:18AM (Unverified) said

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Bingo. i've always maintained that MGS4 being ported was a bigger possibility than other may think. Not a sure thing, but not a pipe dream either.

Much of this stemmed from the seeming outright refusal to actually confirm that the game would never be out on the 360. Most other devs are quite clear about what systems their game is for and this kind of 'only for this system right now' reeks of the talk used by ubisoft for Haze.

I know that it is up to Konami, not kojima to decide where the game goes, but when even he outright refuses to deny a 360 version...it makes me think there is a reason.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 9:56AM (Unverified) said

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"Right now it's only being made for PS3" That's your denial for a 360 version currently in production.

"No plans for 360 for now" That's your wiggle room for the possibility of the 'expanded' version hitting both PS3 and 360 in 12/18 months.

Keep this in mind though, MGS2:S made it over to Xbox but both MGS3 releases did not.

I know as a fan of the series that I won't be waiting around for a year plus to see the end of Solid Snake.

Take your pick Dave
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 11:53AM (Unverified) said

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I'm with BNinjaC.

I think if MGS4 ever hits 360, it will be MGS4: Subs-whatever.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 12:08PM heypaul said

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Subsistingstances...sis?
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 9:24AM zsavior said

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I don't know maybe it is me, but is a port of this game to the 360 really that big of a deal? The 360 has a ton of games over the PS3 if MGS4 can turn the tide from Xbox360 to PS3 over night then there are a lot bigger concerns MS would have to consider than just one game.

Why ask for the same offerings another system is anticipating why not ask for something new and even more innovative rather than hounding this man down for something he wants on the PS3. The ability to get better games than MGS4 is what xbox360 fans should be worrying about, not the ports of their competitor.

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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 9:51AM (Unverified) said

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Personally I don't want MGS4 to 360 for the purpose of taking it from PS3. I want it because I love the series and have a 360... Don't feel like spending 600 dollars on a system for one game.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 9:25AM (Unverified) said

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They're waiting to deny the 360 version until MGS4 has shipped in order to bolster PS3 sales at that time, make the impact MGS4 will have on sales even more apparent and stroke Kojima's enormous ego. He loves that.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 9:27AM Pipp said

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I still don't understand why people are still excited about stealth games. I thought people got sick of this genre and it was all but dead.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 9:57AM (Unverified) said

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The genre was stillborn for me. I really have no interest to pretend to be a statue. That has no entertainment value to me.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 10:07AM Dahk said

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Its Metal Gear Solid. You don't have this game because of just the solid stealth gameplay. Really it can be a full FPS if you want it to - just not totally built that way.

Really you get it for the frickin insane storyline, over-the-top graphics, stunning orchestrated soundtracks, and the intensity of all the fights. If you've ever played those last moments of MGS3. That like made my heart spasm from beating too fast.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 9:48AM (Unverified) said

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Joystiq you really need to check some of these commentators and see if their IPs link back to MS offices or not, because some of these comments just scream of "MS Xbox Damage Control Department".
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 9:58AM (Unverified) said

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Oh, the irony.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 10:03AM (Unverified) said

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what irony? check all my posts on Joystiq: you wont find me trash talking any of the must-have 360 games. and this is true for most PS3 owners/fanboys who comment on this site, so please just STFU.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 10:12AM (Unverified) said

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Says Mr. Sony himself.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 10:35AM (Unverified) said

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hey megaDouche, did you not read my reply to Martin? oh whats the use...by the way i replied back to you on the Wii production delayed story.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 10:59AM (Unverified) said

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It wasn't a sleight against you, Curmeo. It had more to do with your avatar than anything else. Maybe next time I'll be more specific so you don't have to tell me to STFU.

K thx bye.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 11:10AM Duke said

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Curmeo - fanboy much do ya?

Your comment was lame. All that should make you happy is that your precious Sony console will have a game. Mine sits there like a rock.

Stop getting the flame instinct where someone says 360 - at least those are getting a lot of use right now.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 1:07PM (Unverified) said

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Our previous discussion was over. There is no way to get you to understand that not only is there NO precedence for dual cartridge/disc consoles as standard (Sega Saturn didn't do it excluding that one rare, special edition model and the Sega Dreamcast didn't do it) but also that the number of people who still have old cartridges is soooooo small that it isn't worth making weird additions. I'll change my mind when either Sony or Microsoft do it first. I don't care if neither ever used cartridge-based media. They should accept them, no questions.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 2:09PM (Unverified) said

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Nato - fanboy much do ya?

Obviously YOU are a fanboy, saying there are no good games on the PS3. Not only are there plenty of good games, there are even more coming out very soon.

Warhawk and Heavenly Sword. Ratcet and Clank, then a HUGE influx of games come holiday season.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 2:27PM (Unverified) said

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nice try megaDouche but our original arguement wasnt about how relevant cartridge BC is for this current generation or not. it was about you disagreeing with me when i made the point that Nintendo *should have* included cartridge BC in the GameCube in the past as in 2001, perhaps via a USB 3-in-1 cartridge reader (used with software emulation), and Wii would naturally carry the tradition. dont make me pwn you over this topic over here as well.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 3:06PM (Unverified) said

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Yeah, right. You "pwned" me alright. I could have guessed otherwise.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 10:07AM 1UPMASTER said

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heh, "the rumble guy."

he must be bored. at least he doesn't have to do work.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 1:16PM (Unverified) said

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Actually the Rumble guy is working. On the 360 version =) I know he was joking but anyways if they really did have a rumble guy itd be for the 360 since gayaxis doesnt feature it
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 10:08AM (Unverified) said

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he's not gonna 'deny' that it will be ported to 360.. with the production cost for the game Konami would be stupid not too..
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 10:11AM (Unverified) said

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Or maybe they don't want to give a definite answer because there is a possibility it will come out for the 360, but it depends on sales and such.

In other words, they don't want to say "No, its PS3 Exclusive" and then have it ported to 360 anyways 12 months later because of bad sales or something.

They are just covering their butts.

There is no plan to port it now, but that doesn't mean it won't be ported. But that doesn't mean one will come for sure either.

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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 11:14AM (Unverified) said

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Perhaps a better question to ask would have been "Can MGO and MGS4 fit on one blu-ray disc?"


That way, if the separate it we would know that they're just trying to make more money on us.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 11:36AM (Unverified) said

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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 11:39AM (Unverified) said

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@ NATO_Duke

Good to know that not all PS3 owners are in denial, LOL "mine sits there like a rock" good shit man good shit. I do hope they port it so many people dont have to buy a ps3 just to play the one true AAA game they will be offering, and I dont want to hear any talk of Lair or Warhawk or Heavsword, those games are not AAA.
Maybe KZ2, maybe
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 12:15PM (Unverified) said

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What criteria do you use to decide what a AAA title is?

For example, I'll use these:

-Sales
-Content
-Reviews

Here are some examples:

50 Cent's Bulletproof (Would this be AAA?)
-Sales(Great)
-Content(Crap)
-Reviews(Crap)

Beyond Good and Evil (Would this be AAA?)
-Sales(Crap)
-Content(Great)
-Reviews(Great)

ICO (Would this be AAA?)
-Sales(Crap)
-Content(Great)
-Reviews(Great)

Under your definition, would any of these be AAA?

I'm just curious as to how you judge AAA titles.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 12:06PM (Unverified) said

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To anyone saying that they don't want to get the PS3 for one game, I don't want to have to get the 360 for Halo 3, but I am going to do it because Halo is a great series. The same should be said of MGS4.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 12:18PM (Unverified) said

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Yes buy it for Halo 3 =) Good for you!!
BUT!!!!!!! You also get!!

Gears of War
Gears of War 2 and possibly 3
Bioshock
Too Human
Lost Planet
Ninja Gaiden 2
Virtua Fighter 5 (w/online)
Better Multiplatform games
Better Online

Just to start off with =)
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 12:25PM (Unverified) said

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Oh yeah and dont forget

Huxley
Halo Wars
PG4
Forza2
DOA Series
Fable 2

(in quickie mart voice)
Thank you come again!
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 12:28PM (Unverified) said

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Games I want for the 360: (Besides the 65nm chip)

-Halo 3
-Gears
-Bioshock

Games I want/have PS3

-Resistance(Have)
-Darkness(Have, I realize it's multi)
-FFXIII
-MGS4
-Heavenly Sword
-Sigma

Since I want about the same amount for each system, it doesn't make much difference to me.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 12:34PM (Unverified) said

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Fenix why even post in a thread about a PS3 game? You obviously dont care about it...well you do actually, so you have to defend your precious piece of plastic with the 360 logo on it.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 12:44PM (Unverified) said

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This isnt PS3 Fanboy, this article was on Joystiq and it had something to do with the possibility of a great game like MGS4. I didnt say anything bad about PS3 I have nothing against it. Its just not for me....yet. Im fine with reg dvd's. Dont need Bluray. I want a game machine. Let me emphasize the word "GAME" as in "VIDEOGAME" console.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 2:03PM (Unverified) said

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lol, fenix, gtfo. You saying you haven't bashed PS3, yet in the same post you say that PS3 has no games.

Was it on purpose or are you really that retarded?
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 2:05PM (Unverified) said

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And you were also calling the SIXAXIS "Gayaxis".

You don't reek of xb0t fanb0yism at all. Nope, no sir you don't. I mean, after all you HAVE played the PS3 before! That qualifies you as an intelligent critic of both systems, I'd say.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2007 12:50PM (Unverified) said

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Actually this is how I rate a AAA game. The budget of the game, sales, graphics and overall quality. 360 just has more AAA games. Im not tryin to start flame war or anything I was just giving my opinion since I do plan on buying a PS3. I like Tekken, KZ2 looks decent, MGS4 if it isnt ported, oh and that cute little big planet =)
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