PAX 07: Joystiq interviews Sony's Sam Thompson about Uncharted

Can you go into the tweaks that have gone into this Uncharted demo since it's showing at E3 last month?
Absolutely, one of the things we did and we looked at very closely at E3 and after the show was the targeting system. And believe it or not the targeting system is still an evolutionary process and probably going to continue until we release the game. And one of the things we are doing to focus on this is bringing in test groups and getting a lot of peoples hands on the game and listening to what they have to say about it. The development team has taken an active roll as well, into kind of tuning the system. A lot of the time, artists won't have time to play the game until they're done with their contribution to the product. But we've really been trying to get everybody's feedback as often as possible because when you're dealing with a game like this it is an evolutionary process and it takes a lot of tuning to get the targeting system to where it needs to be.
The second thing we've done is that we noticed during E3 that there was actually problems with the way the enemies were animating and people were getting a little kind of frustrated. So we decided to change the way the enemies were reacting so there is no invulnerability state when they grab at their knees or flinch after taking damage. At E3, there was a two second window where they wouldn't take any damage, so it gave people the impression that you had to pump 60 bullets into the guy to kill him.
We've also looked at the damage model of each weapon, we've tuned a number of the different aspects of the gun play model – in terms of bullet velocity, trajectory, distance and looked at how they incorporate themselves into the gameplay model with the enemies. We've got some really talented people at Naughty Dog working on tuning this on a daily basis to get it just right. I think one of the big things you'll notice is the weapons balance on the handguns and the small machine guns. In the E3 build, you'll notice that they were kind firing all all over the place, so we've tightened the firing radius and bullet spread and made it much more directed. You'll can also see that the blind fire system has been improved. We've made it much more of a quick fire than a blind fire now. In the E3 demo we noticed that the blind fire system was totally inaccurate so we figured it would be better to give the player a better sense of control. So now it's a little more directed and productive in the blind fire mode
We've also added a camera switch on the L3 button to change the camera from the left shoulder to the right shoulder. Say you're standing behind a pillar: Drake is right-handed, he's not ambidextrous like the guys from Gears of War or Resident Evil. He has a weak side and a strong side for aiming and while we were worried about the gameplay implications of that, we wanted to stay true to our character. So we added the camera switch to give the player better visibility around other side. That feature in particular has gotten a lot of great feedback so far.

Right now we're looking at a solid eight weeks of tuning and tweaking all those little things, and you're kind of seeing it in the PAX demo. One of the additions I wish had made it into this demo was destructible cover. You can no longer hide behind a wooden crate while the enemy dumps a thousand rounds into it. Now the cover will wear down and eventually be destroyed, which forces you to really mix up your strategy. We also have destructible objects as well, but its not over the top. We didn't want to have Drake destroying a lot of the architecture with the character being an antiquity aficionado and treasure hunter. He's not going to want to go in and blow up a 14th century Spanish villa, but he would say 'If that stucco wall or this one got destroyed, it's not a huge deal.' So it's kind of a give and take between gameplay and staying true to our character.
That's about all I can think of off the top of my head, like I said it's a continuing evolution with pretty much every aspect of the game continuing to get polished and tweaked leading up to release date this holiday season.

It's going to be about 8-12 hours, but we're also adding a collection model. We're going to have a ton of collectibles in the game; they're going to be the type of antiquities that you'd find in that era and the sort of treasure Francis Drake would find.
Sheila Bryson (Sony PR):And that's without any load times!
Oh yeah exactly, zero load times throughout the entire game. It's a full length streaming experience. Our cinematics are all rendered via the in-game engine so the transition between the game itself and our movies is very smooth. So what you're getting is a consistent visual; what players see during the cutscenes is what they see when they're playing the game. We're also doing something we call 'in-game cinematics' where it's kind of like Gears of War or Half-life where the gameplay slows down during dialog sections of the game and you have control of your character while the person is talking.
We're really keying into is the rich and dynamic storyline, it is very Hollywood-esque and we're really proud of it now. We're trying to tell this sweeping story that is very reminiscent of National Treasure, Indiana Jones or The Mummy. And we want to make sure players get immersed in that that story as well.
It is too early to tell, but I can tell you that we are definitely considering all those options. Obviously they're all really cool things that we'd like to support, but we haven't really gone on record with any of that stuff yet.

It's interesting but we're really not. The one thing that Sony does for their third-party partners is make sure that first-parties don't necessarily get an unfair leg-up on them. When a new tool or SDK comes live, it comes live for everybody at the same time. Sony wants to support third-party companies as much as possible and make sure it's an even playing field.
So obviously we're facing the same challenges with Home that everybody else is. We'll devote what man hours we can to it and see what we can do. What I can say, is that from my exposure to the tool set, it's actually quite easy to work with and solutions are very easy and rapid in iterations. So it's not something you need months and months to work on, and I think that even with the window of time that they've given us we can still generate a pretty substantial amount of content in that time frame.
Another kind of random technical question; recently a developer revealed that with the PS3's 1.80 SDK release, they've included an MP3 streaming tool for custom soundtracks with 12MB footprint. It's not a huge memory demand, so I was curious if you've looked at integrating that into Uncharted or if you were more interested in keeping the thematic music to enhance the immersion.
Not really familiar with it, so I can't comment on that.
With each successive SDK release, Sony has done a fantastic job at dropping the memory demands of the OS. Is this additional memory something you can instantly make use of, or does the game need to be developed with that extra memory in mind to really benefit from it.
Oh, we instantly gain access to the additional memory whenever Sony releases a new SDK and we've been able to harness every upgrade they've given us. The more memory they give us, the happier we are. The benefit is immediately reflected in the next build, it really is easy to harness that. Memory is the biggest challenge we face as a game development community, so anytime they give us back anything it's like Christmas morning.

At this point we haven't determined if it's going to be a single or dual-layer Blu-ray yet. We're still speculating how much space we'll need, we're not 100% sure how big it will be. But right now we're running it on a single-layer Blu-ray.
So it wouldn't fit on a DVD-9?
Right now we're at 22GB so it wouldn't really work.
Sheila Bryson (Sony PR): Not even our Gamer's Day demo would fit on a DVD-9 actually.
Yeah, the demo came in at 13GB, though it was several levels obviously. But when it comes to the finished product, we want to put in as much content as we possibly can and really take advantage of all that space we have. So we'll going to have additional stuff like documentaries, making-off videos – stuff like that. Naughty Dog has really embraced the additional storage and have gone off the deep end with the stuff they're going to include. You're going to see a lot of the character making this game with all the behind the scenes stuff.
I'm sure you're focused 100% right now on just finishing up the title, but have you thought about any future downloadable content? New missions? A new outfit for Drake?
That's all stuff we think of on a daily basis, but we have to balance it with the amount of time we have and if it makes sense with the business model. It's always something we think about, whether we do it or not is another story. I think there is potential for a lot of stuff to happen, we just have to sit down and take a look at each different option. If it's doable then certainly, I know our guys would love to do it. We are planning on some surprises I think you'll see.

We have, that is one of those things we think about a lot. Right now that's something we haven't decided on what the timing of that will be or if it will come into fruition. We're focused purely on finishing the retail product right now, so if we get the resources to make a demo – we'll do it. But we right now we're more concentrated on the final product more.
Haha, I could certainly say all those things but it would be a little corny. I think it's a great title though and I still enjoy playing it. You don't see too many people who play the same game for two years and still enjoy playing it, but it really is a great title and I hope people enjoy it.











Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
snakefangs @ Aug 28th 2007 1:49AM
This is the title that's going to save the PS3. This is what Sony fans have waited for! It's like nothing I've ever played before!
snakefangs @ Aug 28th 2007 2:02AM
Wait a 2nd that's not Harrison Ford! I take back what I posted!
Wilhelm @ Aug 28th 2007 2:05AM
You've played it?
I might be looking at the game the wrong way or something and it might just be me... but it looks like a male-version of Tomb Raider...
Hashbrown_Hunter @ Aug 28th 2007 2:07AM
...because you haven't (?)
Wilhelm @ Aug 28th 2007 2:09AM
"It's like nothing I've ever played before!"
That's why I asked if he's played it. It was a geniune question.
Snukadaman @ Aug 28th 2007 3:02AM
Isn't that the same thing people were saying about heavenly sword,Lair and Warhawk?
Lifted 0ne 4l9 @ Aug 28th 2007 10:24AM
It could be the game to save the PS3 if it wasn't a 8 - 12 hour game, why is it i keep seeing these short games on the PS3 when it has all this extra space on blu-ray?
KiraXD @ Aug 28th 2007 2:03AM
the only thing that i dont like the sound of ... is 8-12 hours of gameplay... or maybe im just looking at it wrong? that sounds like an extremely short game?
Hashbrown_Hunter @ Aug 28th 2007 2:08AM
it's not that short actually. most games are around that long.
bl13 @ Aug 28th 2007 2:08AM
Yes that's short for a game that likely has no multiplayer. This worries me as much as the IGN UK review of Heavenly Sword saying the game is 7 hours long. It's hard to justify as a $60 purchase.
SKI @ Aug 28th 2007 7:54AM
I hate how they say there is no possibly way for it to be on DVD-9 and there is 22GB of data, but it ends up being a lass then 12 hour game. With no multiplayer, why so much data?
Wilhelm @ Aug 28th 2007 2:07AM
I agree, and it doesn't seem to have much replayability, aside from 'collectables.' Oh, goody.
Hito @ Aug 28th 2007 2:14AM
Man you people love to whine dont you?
Word Up, North Korea! @ Aug 28th 2007 2:26AM
7-12 hours is not long enough for a game, unless there is infinite replayability/multiplayer
and before you flame me, I own only a PS3
Ihya @ Aug 28th 2007 3:02AM
Hopefully with Naughty Dog's pedigree this will be an excellent title. Loved Jak & Daxter.
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Kaze88 @ Aug 28th 2007 7:31AM
if 7-12 hour game isnt worth 60dollars, then more than a half of worlds games arent worth the price. think about it!
Rick @ Aug 28th 2007 8:28AM
Yes, I totally agree! At least half of the games ever made are not worth full price!
bl13 @ Aug 28th 2007 10:19AM
I would say at least 80% of the games ever made are not worth full price.
Jake @ Aug 28th 2007 8:35AM
7-12 hours isn't too short for a shooter in general, but it is too short for a shooter that lacks multiplayer and co-op. That is disappointing. This doesn't sound like a AAA title anymore. It will get an 87.
So, we are down to UT3 and Ratchet for potential AAA games on this fall's "surf 'n' turf" of consoles.
NewJockCity08 @ Aug 28th 2007 9:14AM
I just love how Colin managed to squeeze in a bit of his love for spreading bluray propaganda in there.
Way to stick it to Nintendo and MS...
"Not even our Gamer's Day demo would fit on a DVD-9 actually."
SURE lady...
However this is the game that will give sony a good boost this holiday season. Unless all reviews destroy it like HS, Lair, and Warhawk have been destroyed.
40cal @ Aug 28th 2007 9:56AM
HS, Lair, and Warhawk have all gotten reviews 8/10 or higher. Gameinformer gave Lair an 8, IGN gave Warhawk a 8.5, and Gamepro gave Heavenly Sword a 4.5/5 that =s a 9/10. Uncharted will be just as great if not better. The visuals in this game can not be touched. Well mabey by Killzone 2. And all of you guys that hate on blu-ray the PGR4 team said they ran out of room on the DVD-9 so that means the extra space is needed and welcomed get over it. And 7-12 hours is a long enough game for me. I dont have the time to spend 40+ hours playing games. I have a life. Games are somthing to fill some down time. Uncharted will be great. A day one must have for me.
Jake @ Aug 28th 2007 12:12PM
Heavenly received a 70 from IGN; that's really bad. Warhawk received a 65 from PSM magazine. Lair has an average review score under 70.
This first wave of fall PS3 exclusives quite frankly aren't very good. If you only own a PS3 and purchased it for games like Lair, Heavenly, Warhawk, and possibly Drake's depending on how it comes out, you have my sympathies.
PS3 fans will call me a fanboy for agreeing with the critics on these games. But you will agree with me when you get some truly next gen games to play, which will be happening next year.
cc123 @ Aug 28th 2007 1:00PM
@40cal
Your forgetting that the jackass haters like the one above me will always use the lowest scores they can find for PS3 games.
For example Warhawk got 8/8/9 from EGM and 8 from Edge (same score as BioShock). Yet it fits their agenda better to use the 6.5 it got PSM.
They like to talk crap while completely neglecting the fact that supposed AAA on their own platform are getting panned by reviewers too, see Blue Dragon and Eternal Sonata.
Another dead give away for a hater jackass is someone that says they agree with these low scores when they a) don't even own a PS3 and b) the games in question aren't out yet so it's impossible to agree or disagree with a score when you haven't even played the full game.
cc123 @ Aug 28th 2007 1:02PM
Correction Warhawk got 8.5/7/8.5 from EGM.
cc123 @ Aug 28th 2007 1:19PM
correction Warhawk got 8.5/7/8.5 from EGM
hvnlysoldr @ Aug 28th 2007 10:30AM
I hate HS. I hated it with a passion. I can finally drive and I have to be chained to a desk all day and listen to all these lectures and do homework. But it doesn't matter because I already got accepted to uni. Oh wait HS means Heavenly Sword? That Goddess Jack of War game right. (/jk I actually liked high school)
colin @ Aug 29th 2007 12:02AM
hey, did you know that pirates wore eye patches so they could see better in the dark?
367 @ Aug 29th 2007 9:32PM
Only the U.K. gave HS a bad review
EGM scored Heavenly Sword 8.3.
[Edge Magazine (UK) awarded Heavenly Sword a 6 out of 10.]
Tilt scored it 10 out of 10.
[IGN UK and IGN U.S.scored a 7.0 out of 10 praising the game's production values, graphics, sound, and art design, , but criticizing it for its short duration and repetitive combat.]
Play Magazine gave it a 10 out of 10 for its graphics, cutscenes, and gore. They also stated that it was, perhaps, the most cinematic game ever created.
Polish magazine PSXExtreme gave it 9+ out of 10.
GamePro gave Heavenly Sword an overall grade of 4.5 out of 5.
40cal @ Aug 28th 2007 2:35PM
@ Jake
I already know that Heavenly Sword is alot better than a 7 just from playing the demo. So your comments mean less than nothing to me. Having some hands on time and after reading ALL the reviews the higher scores just sound right.
@ cc123 you forgot about the sub-par reviews for Two Worlds and Mass Effect. I played Bio Shock for 8 hours on Sat. and did not like it. All three of these 360 exclusives=nerdfrest to me anyways. Si-fi so not my thing. And lets not even talk about the crap that we had to play when the 360 launched. Perfect Dark, PGR, and Kameo all sucked. No good games on 360 untill Dead Rising. Then another slump. Not to mention that my 360 broke 3 times. I traded that POS into Gamestop right after I got my PS3.
colin @ Aug 29th 2007 12:05AM
"I played Bio Shock for 8 hours on Sat. and did not like it"
why did you play it for 8 hours then? thats a really long time playing a game you don't like.