If you or a loved one have been thinking of trading that glitchy Xbox 360 console for one of the newer HDMI-equipped models with the (thus far) more reliable Zephyr motherboard, you should be aware of what isn't included in this offering. While the premium experience of the Xbox 360 Elite nets you that 120GB hard drive and "elite" black casing, it also buys you an HDMI cable and an "audio adapter connector" that extracts either stereo or digital audio out of the box, if you're not into the whole HDMI audio thing.
There are two solutions for those of you with external stereo systems that don't support HDMI: 1) Buy the $50 HDMI cable with adapter or 2) switch your HDTV's audio setting to reroute audio from the internal speakers out to the stereo, as described by Joe Hutsko. If your setup requires the $50 adapter (with HDMI cable!), you can either consider the Elite and its massive hard drive for only $50 more or just hit eBay for someone else's leftovers. Just sayin'.
Reader Comments (60)
Posted: Aug 31st 2007 11:29PM (Unverified) said
On the newer consoles - have they upgraded to the HDMI 1.3 or are they still going with the 1.2 spec? Curious...
Posted: Aug 31st 2007 11:53PM (Unverified) said
I sent an email to M$ the day I got the hdmi premium. They said they are working on selling the thing seperately.. i guess they want to milk the $50 combo for a while...
I might try shaving it down but my tv is giving a nagging 'invalid feed' error or somesuch.. i forget the exact text so i gotta figure that shit out before even bothering...
I might try shaving it down but my tv is giving a nagging 'invalid feed' error or somesuch.. i forget the exact text so i gotta figure that shit out before even bothering...
Posted: Sep 1st 2007 12:03AM (Unverified) said
Agh your right....One of the real things that bothers me so much about
the 360 is that there is no built in Wifi.And I don't want to pay 100
dollars just for a stupid wifi adapter that probably costs Microsoft
under 20 bucks to make... And I don't want to run a 100 foot Ethernet
cable through my house either. Sony and Nintendo where smart enough to
through in a cheep wifi card....I love the feeling of being able to
move my Wii any where in my house and always having a wireless
internet connection. Call me picky but I just think its plane stupid
not to have built in wifi... Id be curious to see what route 360
owners do to get there internet connection hooked up to there Xbox
360s. Because I'm planning on buying a 360 this year and I want to
know whats the smartest move.
the 360 is that there is no built in Wifi.And I don't want to pay 100
dollars just for a stupid wifi adapter that probably costs Microsoft
under 20 bucks to make... And I don't want to run a 100 foot Ethernet
cable through my house either. Sony and Nintendo where smart enough to
through in a cheep wifi card....I love the feeling of being able to
move my Wii any where in my house and always having a wireless
internet connection. Call me picky but I just think its plane stupid
not to have built in wifi... Id be curious to see what route 360
owners do to get there internet connection hooked up to there Xbox
360s. Because I'm planning on buying a 360 this year and I want to
know whats the smartest move.
Posted: Sep 1st 2007 8:46AM (Unverified) said
The Smartest move is to use ethernet. It's a faster, more stable connection. I Just got a spool of ethernet cable from home depot and some tips and ran my own cabler outside the house. You can usually force it through where your cab;e comes in, than just recaulk the hole. You could also get a big assed drill bit and do it. then all you need is a couple wallplates, and run the wire unobtrusively. The cool thing about this is, all I had to do is put a switch on it, and now my tivo, 360, and ps3 all have a fast connection to the network, which is super handy for transferring multimedia.
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Posted: Sep 1st 2007 10:59PM (Unverified) said
@ Jason B
"One of the advantages of using HDMI is a single cable for both video and audio. Its really kinda silly to think that one may use an HDMI cable for video and analog stereo for audio. If you not concerned with high quality audio why bother with digital video."
Yes, it is true that the convenience lies with HDMI in that it carries both video and audio signals, but if you really think it is silly that someone would rather use analog audio, then you're truly not a audiopile. Real audiophiles know that analog audio which uses regular RCA connections can sound much better with the right equipment, like a $20,000 Preamp, which would destroy any HDMI setup any day. As far as video goes, a digital setup will look better because HDMI is one of the best options for video, but HDMI audio is not necessarily the superior or high quality option as you think. It all lies in what you can afford, not what you think is the best connection, that is HDMI.
"One of the advantages of using HDMI is a single cable for both video and audio. Its really kinda silly to think that one may use an HDMI cable for video and analog stereo for audio. If you not concerned with high quality audio why bother with digital video."
Yes, it is true that the convenience lies with HDMI in that it carries both video and audio signals, but if you really think it is silly that someone would rather use analog audio, then you're truly not a audiopile. Real audiophiles know that analog audio which uses regular RCA connections can sound much better with the right equipment, like a $20,000 Preamp, which would destroy any HDMI setup any day. As far as video goes, a digital setup will look better because HDMI is one of the best options for video, but HDMI audio is not necessarily the superior or high quality option as you think. It all lies in what you can afford, not what you think is the best connection, that is HDMI.
Posted: Sep 2nd 2007 5:53PM jynxycat said
Um, the video cable you get in the box to begin with, is the same size/shape as the HDMI audio "adapter". It's the same plug in, except it doesn't have any video cables coming out of it, just female l/r audio jacks, and the jack for optical out.
The reason you need this, according to the instructions, is that the system will not work with both HDMI and the regular 360 video (beit av, component or vga) plugged in at the same time. What differs between the video cord, and the audio adapter, that makes one work and one not is beyond me, but MS did it.
The reason you need this, according to the instructions, is that the system will not work with both HDMI and the regular 360 video (beit av, component or vga) plugged in at the same time. What differs between the video cord, and the audio adapter, that makes one work and one not is beyond me, but MS did it.
Posted: Oct 4th 2007 10:36AM ZeroCorpse said
@Jynxycat
What makes the video (HD AV Component) cable and HDMI audio adapter different is that the HDMI audio adapter gives you enough room to fit an HDMI cable in underneath it. That's it.
There's nothing technologically advanced about it. How do I know? I have the standard pack-in HD AV component cable and a HDMI-to-DVI cable in the XBox 360 together and it works just fine--- After cutting some of the useless plastic out of the HD AV cable, that is.
Really. That's it. A bunch of grey plastic. The only thing stopping you from using the audio connection from the standard component cable along with an HDMI cable is a bulky plastic casing on the connector. Get rid of that, and the guts that route audio are the same.
So MS didn't do anything but make an adapter that has a slightly smaller plastic housing. If you don't want to spend $40-$50 for the HDMI AV adapter, you can easily take a Dremel or some other tool to a cheap HD-AV component cable and use that, instead.
Get rid of the extra plastic, and there's nothing stopping you from having HDMI video and optical or stereo audio at the same time.
Microsoft is just ganking us on this one. Don't pay the "less plastic" tax. Buy a used component cable and hack it, instead.
What makes the video (HD AV Component) cable and HDMI audio adapter different is that the HDMI audio adapter gives you enough room to fit an HDMI cable in underneath it. That's it.
There's nothing technologically advanced about it. How do I know? I have the standard pack-in HD AV component cable and a HDMI-to-DVI cable in the XBox 360 together and it works just fine--- After cutting some of the useless plastic out of the HD AV cable, that is.
Really. That's it. A bunch of grey plastic. The only thing stopping you from using the audio connection from the standard component cable along with an HDMI cable is a bulky plastic casing on the connector. Get rid of that, and the guts that route audio are the same.
So MS didn't do anything but make an adapter that has a slightly smaller plastic housing. If you don't want to spend $40-$50 for the HDMI AV adapter, you can easily take a Dremel or some other tool to a cheap HD-AV component cable and use that, instead.
Get rid of the extra plastic, and there's nothing stopping you from having HDMI video and optical or stereo audio at the same time.
Microsoft is just ganking us on this one. Don't pay the "less plastic" tax. Buy a used component cable and hack it, instead.
Posted: Nov 8th 2007 9:48PM (Unverified) said
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