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Posted: Sep 6th 2007 11:00PM (Unverified) said

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For a second there I thought this was going to be yet another shitty video taken from youtube but it was Funny, not OMGROFLMAO Funny but Haha Funny.

Yeah is easy when you use the Vita Chambers but In my case I never used the Vita chambers, After playing Half-Life and Doom I automatically reload the game when I’m about to die.

Actually is not the Vita chamber what makes the game so easy, Is the Camera. For example before fully researching a Spider-Splinter-(Man) it was nearly impossible to kill but then after you get the +++ damage bonus is just matter of using the "Freeze+Wrench" combo.

I don’t know if a Dead penalty should be implemented or which DP would be the most appropriate for example, charging the whole Chapter like in Gears of War makes it repetitive without making it hard, the old charge and load isn’t that hard either. IMO the best dead penalty would be something like in Guild Wars where you start again but with less health and it is an accumulative penalty so I guess it will make things more interesting.

Posted: Sep 6th 2007 11:12PM (Unverified) said

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well it was a better game before that goddamn update pretty much owned the 360 version

Posted: Sep 6th 2007 11:30PM (Unverified) said

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what?
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Posted: Sep 7th 2007 12:47AM Shmil said

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wait did i miss some update what did this 'update' do? better yet, when the fuck was there an update?
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Posted: Sep 6th 2007 11:21PM F1 Basu Gasu Bakuhatsu said

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Is it me or does this guy have something against the 360?

Posted: Sep 6th 2007 11:43PM (Unverified) said

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Because he mentions "console games" as dumbed down experiences? Yeah. I mean, this isn't a totally common concept among the PC hardcore elitists at all.
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Posted: Sep 7th 2007 12:03AM (Unverified) said

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I totally understand that feeling, I’m still a PC gamer and Console FPS like Halo are pretty dumb, In fact before owning a XB360 I was like “Oh please” each time a Magazine mentioned Halo, In fact I'm a XB360 owner and I still believe it's overrated.

Scratch that, what I want to say is that Halo is a great game, actually is really Fun, The online community of Halo sucks, I mean “Swordswordsword” That is Halo community at its best Behavior but is still a Great Game. The problem is that some critics gave Halo 1 more credit than it deserved and that pissed off a lot of PC gamers including me especially because PC gamers had Unreal 2 back in the day not to mention counter strike also when critics called Halo a revolution in FPS after games like System shock 2 was kind of premature.

IMO Halo 3 might earn the Respect and hype of Halo 1.
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Posted: Sep 6th 2007 11:38PM Anticrawl said

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I'm a shark, we don't have necks, necks are for sheep, like you guys.

I bought the game from Circuit City for 40 bucks but I regret it everyday. The game is fine and dandy, but everything feels like a chore, the aiming makes me feel like I'm playing Pariah, never played a game where shooting a gun was less fun. The story is ok I suppose, not great for a game where the only thing it has going for it is the story. The enemies all look pretty much identical. I like the creepy atmosphere atleast, the plasmids are neat but having to constantly reload is mearly annoying and doesn't add to any sort of difficulty or strategy. There is nothing innovating about it, the big daddy's are easy even on hard. I dunno, I just don't see why people think it's worth 60 bucks much less the game of the year title. I'd imagine you people will rep me down out of existence but if you can't handle my opinion then well maybe you regrett spending 60 bucks as well my friend. Funny how a game like say Shadowrun gets denied praise for lack of content and here we have a generic fps that makes shooting a chore with little to no replay value and yet noone complains about it. But god forbid someone make a multiplayer only game. Oh lordy lordy I'll never innovate again, bah gamers are all fucking sheep.

Posted: Sep 7th 2007 12:41AM (Unverified) said

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"I just don't see why people think it's worth 60 bucks much less the game of the year title. I'd imagine you people will rep me down out of existence but if you can't handle my opinion then well maybe you regrett spending 60 bucks as well my friend. Funny how a game like say Shadowrun gets denied praise for lack of content and here we have a generic fps that makes shooting a chore with little to no replay value"


GTFO Sony Fanboy!.

Sorry for that but I don't recall any game being like Bioshock, Half-Life, system shock 2 perhaps but is like Calling Gears of War Generic.

Ok I see your point; The sci-fi shooter stuff has been pulled out before but is not on the Formula but how you do it, seriously Is not that Sci-fi shooters are new in the industry but the Graphics, the Story, the Gameplay make this game Gold,Gold Jerry GOLD.

The words that tell me you haven’t play Bioshock in your post were “Lack of Replay Value” then my friend you don’t know Jack about “Achievements” Bioshock and Dead Rising Show achievements at its best since you get your replay value right there, also you count with 2 alternative endings. If you are like me you are going to replay Bioshock at least 3 times.

Now when you mentioned “never played a game where shooting a gun was less fun”
Then I suppose you haven’t killed a Big Daddy using just a Shotgun, Telekinesis and NO Vita-Chamber, IN HARD.

Also please Shadowrun?, Now that is Generic, Tell me what are the multiplayer modes shadow run ported?, In case of Shadowrun was that it was a game that suppose to be better than playing Counter strike,the deal was that it was so heavily dependant on Team work (2 words that aren’t exactly found in Multiplayer games) that it was boring, waiting for re-spawn was awful and it did nothing with the Shadowrun license. Shadowrun reek of Meta-game, not exactly something good. It was like playing PDZ multiplayer except without the Armors and the Giant Maps.I have a lot of complains about Shadowrun here in my Bitchin bag but I will leave that for another day.

I respect your opinion but LOL your post couldn't be more wrong.
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Posted: Sep 7th 2007 1:16AM (Unverified) said

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BTW I couldn't help to notice when you say the reload is awful, I would Quote Revolver Ocelot but I couldn’t found the quote (Yet there is porn,Creeeepy)When he said Reloading in Battle is great. Also reloading the plasmids isn’t that bad, IMO is more tedious in Gears of war.

“But god forbid someone make a multiplayer only game. Oh lordy lordy I'll never innovate again, bah gamers are all fucking sheep”.

You simply don’t understand what is wrong with Shadowrun don’t ya?, Shadowrun suffers form the “A Good Idea but poorly develop” Syndrome. Also you want the half of a game?, let alone the multiplayer, seriously if you complain about something being repetitive is the damn multiplayer. Few maps and you have to play them over and over and over. Really I don’t see how a game based how a Counter Strike wannabe is considered innovative.

Also that in the case of Bioshock, Like condemned not all games are made to be multiplayer friendly ,Also I’m afraid a Multiplayer mode could break the game.
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Posted: Sep 7th 2007 12:13AM Negativecool said

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I'm not even going to read any of the posts here. I really just HAD to say that I LOVE THIS GUY (chap?)!!!!

I almost dare to say that I laugh harder watching these vids than the angry video game nerd.

Whether or not you agree/disagree with him, you have to admit the Escapist vids are chocked full of hilarious razor sharp wit.

Posted: Sep 7th 2007 12:19AM (Unverified) said

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Actually I like his style too especially because after the 32x Review AVGN went downhill, Well not Downhill but I swear earlier reviews of the AVGN were funnier.

But like AVGN, his reviews shouldn't be taken seriously but as a form of comedy and good entertainment. Is sad that some posters here take his word too seriously, I believe people in here have an important lack of sense of humor…Well It could be worst, it could be like Kotaku in which posters laugh whenever Ashcraft Say they have to.
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Posted: Sep 7th 2007 12:33AM iwantmymtv said

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this guy is so to the point and funny! I love it. give me more!!!! more i say, more!!

Posted: Sep 7th 2007 12:32AM Negativecool said

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Ok, so I read the posts. I'm suprised that there weren't more fanboys crying herecy for the criticism spewed towards the greatest game of our time. Kudos to everyone for actually accepting someone's opinion.

Now there was some talk of no "middle ground." One suggestion I thought of while thinking of GTA...stay with me.

You know how you can pick up a hooker to increase health? Well you can be a good boy and NOT kill her for your money back, or you can be a bad boy and KILL the ho for your chedda. This led me to the following thought for some reason...

In the event that you "save" the little sister, you should have the option of letting her go, or enslaving her to harvest adam for you. Near the end of the game you could have a bunch of little sisters "helping" you out. You could even assess their performance, and if one isn't getting enough adam, dispose of her. There could be a favorites system and there would be fights among the little sisters for your approval. Essentially you would be pimping little girls...How's THAT for moral choice?

Harvest their adam thereby killing them instantly, let them go....or PIMP them for adam!

Posted: Sep 7th 2007 12:44AM (Unverified) said

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You are comparing little girls to hookers!,Dude you are sick :P
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Posted: Sep 7th 2007 12:48AM foxhoundadam said

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I love these. Too bad it turns out he's another PC gaming elitest, which are only half a step above Halo zombies.

Posted: Sep 7th 2007 12:55AM (Unverified) said

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I can't help to notice your avatar name and think how awesome a FoxHound plasmid would be,One injection and Bam you are Solid Freaking snake or Psycho Mantis,Hell a Big boss Plasmid would be so unfair.
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Posted: Sep 7th 2007 1:36AM (Unverified) said

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I said this the first week this game came out. It's not as good as they say. The AI is not that smart and unless I missed it in the review, I can't believe that it was not mentioned. As for the vita chambers: if you are going to make a game with many save points, then please make the areas after them a challang to get through. There are some good points to this game which does make it worth playing, but not building an idol and crowning it the coolest thing since sliced bread.

As for all of you gay pc snobs....go jump off the nearest bridge. I am so sick of hearing you dickheads ramble about "this is so much better on pc" ect ect ect. If fps are so freakin great on the pc, then why do you even bother playing them on your 360? And for that matter, why the hell do you even own anything other than a pc?

Posted: Sep 7th 2007 5:13AM Serious Kriss said

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That's not what the "gay pc snobs" say though. They'd say (much like the Zero Punctuation reviewer implies) that the game could have been even better if it had been developped primarily for the PC, then ported to consoles. That's an over-simplification of course, but I beleive that there is some truth in it.
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Posted: Sep 7th 2007 2:04AM Anticrawl said

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Can't seem to reply to comments but Word of the Street I do happen to have somewhere around 720 acheivements for Bioshock. I'm trying to get my money out of it. And in my opinion if you call Shadowrun half a game then so is Bioshock. I just have different priorities than you. I like competition. The game isn't that great and yeah I've fully upgraded all the shotgun ammo so I know, there is some fun to be had but really it's only because you really don't have to go through the troublesome act of aiming it. You sure are defensive about the game, I just plain don't like it. Not my cup of tea and the game doesn't feel like something I haven't done before, doesn't make me tingle inside like say Shadowrun since you decided to comment on it. I fail to see how they poorly executed it, maybe if you are the pen and paper Shadowrun fanboy it erks you but I see a deep and intense multiplayer game that is full worth the price tag.

On to that achievement comment, a games replay value should never rely on achievements, that is a halmark of a poorly done game. Reloading in Gears of War is flawless by the way, couldn't be better and even if you have to do it often which you really don't you never really notice it. For a game you only see your hands in like Bioshock and one that has such focus on the actions of your hands you'd figure they'd put a little more detail and animations into it. Seems all games miss on that one. I don't own a ps3 by the way and if you've ever visited 360fanboy you'd see me in pretty much every topic. Wouldn't trade my 360 for anything, cept maybe an elite, or a sweet new gp aquos considering I own two 360's.

Posted: Sep 7th 2007 9:43AM Crono141 said

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Lacking multiplayer doesn't make it half a game, it makes it 3/4 of a game. Multiplayer is so shallow, it should only count for 1/4 of a game.

There, I said it. A mediocre single player game is more of a game than a mediocre multiplayer only game. But if you have a mediocre single player game and a mediocre multiplayer game in one, then you get Halo1.
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Posted: Sep 7th 2007 2:18AM Anticrawl said

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Here's how I think of it, I blow through Bioshock on hard in like say 8-12 hours. Now I've gotten probably thousands of hours in shadowrun. Even if you think of it in a sense that Bioshock is a deeper game here is how I would feel even if that was the case.

Would you buy a nice car with AC for full price if it would last you only 5-10,000 miles with low gas mileage or a alright/good car with no AC with great gas mileage for full price that lasts you 250,000 miles? I think the answer is clear, plus the later can always have added nicer tires or added paint/AC later easily vs adding a whole new engine or rebuilding said engine on the first car.

Posted: Sep 7th 2007 2:30AM Anticrawl said

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I also fail to see how Shadowrun is anything like counterstrike. The lead developer for Halo 1 worked on Shadowrun and it originally used the Halo engine which was later scraped. I use to play counterstrike and I can safely say the only thing close to the same is the buy system. The maps are amazing and I'm still finding new things about them, was to move and strategies to formulate. I guess if you like mindless run and gun then Bioshock or Halo is more your taste, which Halo satisfies my appetite for run n gun just well. Apparently you missed the purpose of the game. It's not all about guns, but teamplay and positioning, and at the same time plays fast enough to keep it from getting to heavily strategic and boring. It's a great balance. There is always a way to trump another person and since when is waiting for a respawn a chore. You must be one of those mindless peons who run straight into the open and die in the opening 3 seconds then squak for a ressurect. I usually go about 15-1 or 20-5 kill to death each game.

Regardless that's not what it was about, you say half a game, then I say Bioshock is half a game. How fun is playing against the same mindless AI again and again. With humans they are constantly changing. Never know what they're gonna do next. I dunno, you think what you want but my opinion is no less false than your own. I just know what an opinion is and not some mindless fanboy. Yeah Shadowrun is sparse in ways I agree, but still a great game with lots of fun to be had as long as you don't have the Shadowrun pen and paper stick up your ass, but for you not to agree on any of my points about Bioshock and then attack me verbally afterwards is just fanboy blindness man, get your eyes checked. I hope the farmer shaves you soon so you can see around all that wool you sheep, I pitty you.

The game may be great as a whole when viewed from the outside, but once you get in it, it's just the same old song and dance my friend.

Posted: Sep 7th 2007 4:37AM (Unverified) said

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"I didn't know boiling water could form allegiances"

That's right kids, steampunk is absolute balls.

Posted: Sep 7th 2007 6:34AM (Unverified) said

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I loved the game but his review of Bioshock is DEAD ON accurate. I own both System Shock and part 2 and I was really hoping for much MORE from this successor. I still love every minute but felt cheated just the same.

Posted: Sep 7th 2007 8:02AM (Unverified) said

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Ehm, the video is down ?

Posted: Sep 7th 2007 10:35AM skrame said

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You can still see the video on The Escapist website.

The best part of the video is the credits. Those too lazy to wait and read will miss such written gems as

"Also if you were offended by the image of Mother Theresa eating a baby's head then you should also be aware that your mum was making me say even more offensive things while I was fucking her last night"

and

"Leap ignorantly to the defense of wealthy game companies who don't know or care about you".

Posted: Sep 7th 2007 11:08AM (Unverified) said

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That picture is amazing.

Posted: Sep 7th 2007 1:23PM SpartacusMagnus said

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While the guy is obvioulsy a PC elitist prick, he's one of the most lovable ones I've ever come across. Granted at one point, I too was a PC whore, but got tired of upgrading my equipment every year and bugs and blue screens. Now I've almost turned entirely to consoles, though there are PC games that I still play.

All that said, I have to agree with some of his nitpicks, though not to a great extent. The game is a great game, worthy of a 9.0 or above. But no game is perfect, so I accept and agree with his criticism. Personally I think Bioshock is a better game than GTA and Zelda (any Zelda) but not sure about Oblivion or RE4. Oblivion isn't a fair comparison as they are totally different games, but RE4 is in the same genre. WHich is better I guess is up to the reviewer. Obviously the reviewers in this case have favored Bioshock. WHo cares?

Overall, the game has a lot of hype. Hype isn't always a good thing. It can distort your perception and raise your expectations of what a game whould be or even could be. Take away all the hype and Bioshock is a great game, period. I've never been so interested in the actual storyline of a game before and the limited moral choices are still hard hitting- so much so that 90% of players will choose to save the little sisters due to a game evoking an emotion, which is pretty incredible.

Lastly, the guy lost some repsect when he bashed Halo. It seemed he was simply trying to hit a nerve rather than make a valid point. While maybe not the best FPS evar, Halo is by far the most fun MP game I've played in my 15 years + of gaming, hands down. Mainly because of LAN- not LIVE.

Posted: Sep 7th 2007 5:43PM (Unverified) said

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I'm glad Bioshock is more FPS than RPG. Nothing ruins an immersive game experience more than adding an encumbrance system, a complicated inventory system, requiring the player to periodically eat food just to stay alive, degrading equipment that must be repaired, etc.

STALKER sucked because it put too much of this kind of mundane, annoying, and un-fun RPG crap into what would have been a great FPS.

I'm also glad Bioshock is towards the easy end of the difficulty spectrum. Nothing is more annoying in a game than having to spend hours replaying a level 20 times because it is just artificially, stupidly difficult. The fun part of Bioshock is the exploration and the storyline, and thus making the game more difficult would not enhance the gameplay experience at all.

Posted: Sep 8th 2007 1:16AM (Unverified) said

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STALKER wasn't an RPG, or even an FPS-RPG, it was a FPS survival game. Much as it must have pained you not to have 12 different guns at one time and never have to worry about any of them, that was never the intention of the game. The intention of the game was to make you think hard about what you were doing beforehand and play smart, the same way you couldn't go through any Resident Evil game before 4 without conserving ammo and expect to make it to the end. We call this "difficulty", a concept you seem allergic to.

If you want to play a game that doesn't slap you on the wrist for playing without thinking, play Gears of War, or play Bioshock. Don't get indignant when you come across a game you can't Rambo successfully through.
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Posted: Sep 7th 2007 11:11PM (Unverified) said

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I dont see where he gets the idea that its Steampunk theme. The hacking game is a flow game (where the blocks are "circuits") but thats just it, its a minigame - it doesnt need to make sense. I dont see how electricity would stop a steam powered machine or power televisions and cameras. I also dont see how steam powered machinery would be necessary in the year 1960.

*Spoiler* All it takes is a trip to Ryan Industries to figure this out. There you learn the best electrical engineers are in rapture and that the security system can use DNA to identify enemies. They invented plasmids for christs' sake. I wouldnt see how an EMP bomb is necessary to lower Andrew Ryan's defenses if the whole thing is fucking steam powered.

In conclusion, he is a retard.

Posted: Sep 16th 2007 4:15AM ZippyDSMlee said

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The real problem with the install setup is you get unlimited installs on that computer and that OS,once you change computers or OS you only get 5(currently) install tokens you do not get them back they are used only for a new fresh install on a fresh OS.

BTW the game is not that great the AI is a bit dumber than FEAR and Farcrays, bugs and glitches plague it and I am not talking about the wide screen issue which boils down to a bunch of wide screen nerds crying foul over not getting a special wide screen setup, hell the PC version was raped er maybe not since it was ported to the PC meek options and poor mouse control all add up to hurting this otherwise fair game in the end it was simplified to much for the console and over all damaged the potential the game had.

BTW D3 and Q4 are bland gun and run games(with D3 being a corridoor shooter in the dark WTF ID get back to making fun games not gameplay devouring monstrosities!), Bioshock at least has good level designs altho over all it feels like SS2 watered down for the console tards........

Is the game good yes a solid 8 maybe even with the issues it has but tis sad to see it do well with all the issues it has...polish and bug work are passe it seems.

Posted: Sep 16th 2007 4:26AM ZippyDSMlee said

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the steam powers the circuits the circuits are either organic or silicon based but still circuits that can be damaged by EMP non the less.



BTW Halo is a blast its a simple fun FPS Halo 2 less so, but still Bioshock should have been more like SS2 and less like teh shooter of the month to be consumed and forgotten....

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