Black College Football Experience coming in November
Developer Nerjyzed (try saying it out loud) has licensed several conferences from historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs) including the SWAC, SIAC, and CIAA, adding up to around 40 teams. There are a few features listed on the game's official site that would help set it apart from the back, but we're most intrigued by the "Battle of the Bands," which allows you to "suit up, grip your baton and lead your band of musical maestros through intricate formations as the crowd roars in amazement." Y-e-s. Watch your back, Nick Cannon! The game is due on Nov. 23, but you can get a sneak peek when the game goes on tour ... at some point.
Reader Comments (Page 5 of 5)
Scarfinger @ Sep 7th 2007 10:49AM
Lets not get ahead of ourselves. Lets just talk about the game itself.
To answer Abscissa's question: yes there would be a problem if there was a game called "White College Football." Black people would scream to the top of their lungs about race and try to get the game banned and/or pulled.
I do agree it is in bad taste to put black in the title but you dont think the creators in this game have thought about that? The fact that anyone is still talking about this noname, untested, unseen, first time game proves they were right to name it so to create discussion and therefore create buzz for a game that no one has seen or played. The fact that there are soo many comments about this game proves that. In the end it can be changed and it will be too late to recall why you even care. But to be fair the word black in this case is more cultural than race.
But the idea of there not being a white football game title does not mean that the game does not exist. EA has consistantly proven that they just don't care about not just HBCU's but anything less than 1A football. In the old games there was a place for the other schools. They had their own section of the game where it included seperate polls, awards, ect. Then the moved it to in order to include the teams you have to remove other schools to do so (I always gutted the MAC). In the more recent versions they are not there at all making a game like this needed. Also EA owns the rights to NCAA and in order to avoid getting sued they have to get the rights to use the real teams from them.
Someone else asked why this can't be a mod for the NCAA we already have? It's obvious EA doesn't want to waste the manpower to do so. There are people online that have made mods by stripping old games and adding the teams. Why should we keep having to strip Madden 01 so we can be ourselves?
My Name is Nobody @ Sep 7th 2007 10:57AM
The funniest comments are the ones where people cry about Affirmative Action and how easy it is for blacks to get into any school. Hello? It is the reign of Bush II, AA has been dead, federally funded scholarships are at their lowest. Stop listening to your unemployed uncle's drunk rants, this isn't the 90's anymore. Everyone south of 40K a year has it bad.
99% of you dicks are well off enough to have a computer and the luxury to game. The hardest thing you donut punchers have done is decide how many Hot Pockets you should microwave at once. I laugh at how pious some of you are.
"Oh poor me, even though I have lived a life of mediocrity and air conditioning, I have seen enough movies to know that racism doesn't exist anymore. And although my greatest accomplishment in life was amassing 100,000 gamer points in a week (along with a 30% increase in BFI) I am perfectly qualified to dispense life wisdom to strangers on the internet."
Jesus, I wish I had a time machine, I would go back 30 years, grab your mom, jump ahead 15 years and introduce her to Chris Benoit.
clayman200014 @ Sep 11th 2007 1:19PM
I remember when I couldn't create a black player in NHL 03'
Freelance @ Sep 12th 2007 9:39AM
Some of you people come across as just plain idiots with your comments. The black experience is more about culture than it is race. If you idiots were to look a little closer I am sure you are going to see white people represented in the games too. Just because it says black does not mean it is anti-white. That happens to be the word of choice to represent the African-American culture. If it was made up of Latinos it would be a Latin experience or Asian. None of those things mean Anti-white. There is nothing prohibiting whites from partaking in the experience whether it is on the video game or going to an actual college game or even attending one of the colleges.
egawrangler @ Sep 14th 2007 5:55PM
And another comment, because I know this whole Civil War comparison is going to flare up. Of the many, many heroes, that were of African descent, and also fought for the Union in the Civil War, only a small percentage were "contraband" as was the common term then. This meant they were repatriated slaves, runaways, or liberated peoples from the South. These "contraband" fought for freedom and equality in the way most of us wish the rest of the Army had. Those other people in the Army? They fought for what most every American does, security of their home, and a healthy, wealthy life.
The North was just as unfriendly a place for blacks as many were in the South. Thus further defining the scope of the Emancipation Proclomation...a document whose intent was to cripple the South's major source of labor for their primarily agrarian economy. The idea of equality among men, although just and righteous, was merely the sugar sweet coating of Lincoln's great plan.
The fact that the Emancipation Proclomation is one of the greatest documents ever to come out of this fledgling nation, in it's production and hope of true equality, was sadly....merely a side effect.
Any refute to it, whether saying "your ancestors" fought for freedom, or idyllically symbolizing a difference among men merely by a video game title, is wrong.
egawrangler @ Sep 15th 2007 2:17PM
Whoops, forgot to add that the 78% of soldiers in the Civil War were UNION soldiers.
Additionally, the argument over this game being a cultural celebration is completely valid. I completely agree about the cultural aspects of such a game and view this as such. However, the game still divides us (if only in title and material), and that is the ethereal problem that continues to harvest racism everywhere.
The cultural aspects of this game would have been better celebrated as features of another, more culturaly omnipotent game. I see no differen between a game like BCFx or Cuban Baseball Training Experience. Both are games designed with the best intentions, but the most disastorous results.
Sorry for my spelling, it was getting late....
RonnieBarzel @ Sep 15th 2007 2:10PM
"The cultural aspects of this game would have been better celebrated as features of another, more culturaly omnipotent game."
Unfortunately, the exclusive licensed college football game -- NCAA 08 (or whatever year) -- ignores the aspects of black college football that some may choose to celebrate. (Does that make EA racist? That's a different issue.)
I attended the University of Houston, a standard NCAA Div. I school that played football at the time in the antiseptic Astrodome. Right down the street was Texas Southern University, a HBCU. I went to a couple of those games as well, and while the technical specs of the game itself were the same -- e.g. 100 yards between end zones, four downs to make a first down -- the atmosphere was quite different. (And this was just Texas Southern. I can only imagine the atmosphere at the major HBCUs like Grambling or Morehouse.)
egawrangler @ Sep 18th 2007 9:01PM
Abscissa -
You're obviously one of the more intelligent ones on here and after reading all these posts, I can see that your maturity and social awareness are probably going to make you successful in the future. However, your arguments in support of this game are inherently flawed, and I think you've just failed to see a lot of the history and social stratum of this issue...here's why:
America suffers from an "us versus them" parallel racism that has been present ever since Benjamin Franklin warned Congress of the issue that would "fracture our union" in the early 1800's. As long as we perpetuate that mentality (blacks are the us, and whites are the them or vice versa) we will never reach true equality such as most of us desire. You stated in one of your first posts that your white ancestors fought to free the slaves. You would be interested to know that most (78%) of white soldiers in the Civil War despised blacks, and deemed their freedom only as a necessity for defeating an even more hated Confederacy. Read "Battle Cry of Freedom" if this is news to you.
The point is that racism is not a demographic, but rather a plague of simplistic hatred.
Also, you insist on using the "us" and "you" pronouns when referring to a collective of racist whites or blacks. Please understand that this verbage, this simple grouping, is the most poignant and implicit example of the racism which none of us think we have, but is evident in our every day speech. If you consider yourself NOT a racist, thereby believing all people are created equally, then don't make it a habit to segregate them.
You mentioned recently that Irish, Scottish, French, etc. are nationalities and not races. This is also untrue by definition. You see, a long time ago, cavemen started to spread all over the world and the continents drifted. Their separation from one another and respective habitats created a proportional evolution. Studies have shown (Newsweek's report on cranial capacity, MIT's evolutionary physiology department, and most recently the work of the group of Swedish anthropologists studying Asian pigment genes) that each "race" of people have miniscule evolutionary differences between one another. Obviously African from Caucasian in terms of skin tone, but also Chinese from Japanese in terms of average femur length and ocular cavities. Therefore, evolution is continually reshaping the homo sapien genome and diversifying more and more "species" or races of human beings. Then in fact, there are many different races out there. Yes, Irish and French are two separate races! HA!
We are all in fact a little different from each other, but to emphasize these differences and to perpetuate them into stereotypical slander that fractures social interaction, is racism at it's heart. I'm sure the intentions of this video game are in the highest standards of enjoyment and family fun, but the blatant undertones symbolize the violent division in our American culture. Your college is at the pillar of Academia (I know from having lectured there) but the perpetuation of a school based solely on it's skintone is self-defeating. I'm not saying your school is racist, but as long as we continue to celebrate terms like HCBA, however benevolent they are, we are perpetuating the underlying racism that bubbles over the minds of nearly every American, every day.
Few of us can say they completely ignore color, but the better of us can say they completely ignore race.
k=n @ Sep 25th 2007 7:18AM
Great Job Team,
I cant wait to get this game.
Jackson State University
CS Grad 2000
rate my @ Sep 28th 2007 10:50PM
http://attentioncollegefootball.blogspot.com/
If the shoe fit wear it..
Dan @ Oct 4th 2007 9:14AM
Two things:
Aren't some of these schools included in EA Sports NCAA football game?
The big draw of football games at historically black colleges is the halftime show. The game itself is pretty much an afterthought, even though there are some great games being played.
Game Junkie @ Oct 11th 2007 5:42PM
The funny thing is that it took one idiot, gamermmonkey, to mention race and all of a sudden we were all in an uproar.
The WET comments were ridiculously stupid considering we, just like any other nationality, except for Telemundo (univision), are not stars and regularly cast on television programs. Hell, even the stupidest in a group of stupid people realizes that there are more caucasians on television than whites. Hell, the Andy griffith show had no Black people ever. You asswipes, I love how you can easily find fault when something is branded with a nationality, but you are so numb when it is a prt of your daily life.
Now I see why the media loves tiger woods and halle berry! They don't embrace their "black". It ain't just cause they are attractive and make alot of money for only caucasian funded events and productions.
The colleges and universities are historically black that is why they are forced to stand out you idiots. Only a few of them are private. Hey, we didn't make a big deal about them being called HBCUs, the people in charge, usually white, gave it that name. After all y'all write the history books.
Asians and hispanics will soon follow suit because the only history ever distorted is that of minority populations.
When you can tell me how a man discovers a land with people on it and can call it his own for another country and get a federal holiday, then we can discuss why this game is called he black football experience.
ALSO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
find games past or present that offer Black college teams as an option for a player. They don't even acknowledge the conferences. You rarely even see them on the tickertapes for scores.
This is sickening, you all disgust me. all of you guys aare acting like us women,
YOU ONLY HEAR (SEE) WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR (SEE)!!!!!!!!!!
youknowme @ Nov 22nd 2007 10:24AM
Why do people get offended when black people embrace their culture, institutions, and communities?
I cant wait to get this GAME!!!!!
I would like to invite any of you to any SWAC football game to experience black college football......It is not only the bands like on the movie "Drum line" but dang good players come from the schools....I hope the legends are on the game....
JSU
* Lem Barney - NFL Hall of Fame cornerback; played entire career with the Detroit Lions
* Corey Bradford - National Football League player
* Leslie "Speedy" Duncan - former 4-time NFL Pro-Bowl cornerback with the San Diego Chargers and Washington Redskins.* Harold Jackson - Retired NFL wide receiver; played majority career with the Los Angeles Rams and New England Patrhttp://www.destructoid.com/black-college-football-the-xperience-is-this-racist-or-just-really-stupid--42694.phtml#comment-post-formiots
* Walter Payton - NFL Hall of Fame running back; played entire career for the Chicago Bears
* Jackie Slater - NFL Hall of Fame offensive lineman; played entire career with the Los Angeles/St. Louis Rams
* Jimmy Smith - Retired NFL wide receiver; played majority career with the Jacksonville Jaguars
GSU
* Willie Brown, Hall of Fame cornerback
* Buck Buchanan, Hall of Fame defensive tackle
* Willie Davis, Hall of Fame Green Bay Packers defensive end
* Jason Hatcher, NFL football player for the Dallas Cowboys
* Randy Hymes, NFL football player for the Minnesota Vikings
* Charlie Joiner, Hall of Fame wide receiver
* Kalvin Pearson, NFL football player for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
* Matthew Reed, football quarterback in the WFL and CFL
* Doug Williams, named MVP after winning Super Bowl as quarterback with the Washington Redskins
MVSU
* Ashley Ambrose - NFL cornerback.
* Deacon Jones - Former NFL defensive end
* Jerry Rice - Former NFL wide receiver.
ASU
* Donald Driver - American professional football wide receiver for the Green Bay Packers of the National Football League
* Steve McNair - American professional football quarterback for the Baltimore Ravens of the National Football League
* Leslie Frazier - Defensive Coordinator of the Minnesota Vikings, former Special Assistant coach with the Indianapolis Colts
* Louis Green - NFL player for the Denver Broncos
alabama state
* Tarvaris Jackson — quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings
* Reggie Barlow — wide receiver for the Jacksonville Jaguars
alabama am
* Howard Ballard - former National Football League right tackle for the Buffalo Bills; 2 time Pro-Bowler; 4 time Super Bowler.
* Brick Haley - Defensive line coach for the Chicago Bears.
* John Stallworth - National Football League Hall Of Famer & former Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver and four time Pro-Bowler
* Robert Mathis - current National Football League Defensive End; Draft: 2003 - 5th round (3rd pick) by the Indianapolis Colts and member of Omega Psi Phi Fraternity Incorporated.
UAPB
* L.C. Greenwood (1969)
* Mark Bradley (2005)
* Dante Wesley (2002)
Southern University
* Mel Blount, played with the Pittsburgh Steelers and President of the NFL Players Association.
* Harold Carmichael, NFL player, four-time Pro-Bowler, played 14 years for Philadelphia Eagles and Dallas Cowboys.
* Isiah Robertson, Six time Pro-Bowler in the NFL, played for St.Louis Rams.
* Aeneas Williams, NFL All-Star who played for the Arizona Cardinals and St. Louis Rams.
* Godwin Turk, NFL Football Linebacker with the New York Jets and Denver Broncos.
Texas Southern
* Ernie Holmes, Defensive tackle for the Pittsburgh Steelers and one of the players on the Steel Curtain
* Michael Strahan, Defensive End for the New York Giants
TRE' TRE' @ Nov 23rd 2007 9:58PM
MAN THESE PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND NOTHIN, BLACK COLLEGE FOOTBALL HAS BEEN A FACID IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY FOR NEARLY A CENTURY IF NOT LONGER, THE MEANING HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGE COMES FROM THE FOUNDING OF BLACK INSTITUTIONS DURING THE DAYS OF SEGREGATION, IT DOESN'T MEAN BLACKS ARE RACIST. IN FACT, I FEEL OFFENDED THAT THESE PEOPLE OF OTHER RACES CALL BLACK COLLEGES RACIST ON THIS WEBSITE SIMPLY BECAUSE AS ONE USER SAID, THESE INSTITUTIONS ARE PRODUCTS OF SEGREGATION, MOST OF THESE PEOPLE ON HERE PROBABLY LIVE IN WHITE COMMUNITIES AND DON'T PAY ANY ATTENTION TO THE HBCU'S SUCH AS SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY(THE BEST BLACK COLLEGE EVER), TEXAS SOUTHERN(MY DAD ATTENDED THIS COLLEGE), AND MANY OTHERS. I LIVE IN BATON ROUGE WHERE SOUTHERN U. IS, AND IF YOU LIVED IN A PREDOMINATELY BLACK NEIGHBORHOOD YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THE PRIDE THE AFRICAN AMERICAN PEOPLE TAKE IN THIS UNIVERSITY. IN FACT, YA'LL NEED TO WATCH THE BAYOU CLASSIC TOMORROW ON NBC AND SEE HOW THE BLACK COLLEGES GIT DOWN. And for the record, black college bands are WAY BETTER than white college bands, they have rhythm and they use the right sheet music, i can't stand listening to white universities play and watching them DANCE, UGH. GO SOUTHERN AND LSU
PoloNYC @ Dec 4th 2007 2:22PM
yo, i swear most of ya'll are ignorant as fawk!!! As a graduate of the the #1 HBCU in the country, the REAL HU...Hampton University, I am glad a game like this is coming out. Alot of ya'll need to do some research on the history of HBCUs. I went to both a PWI & HBCU, so i've been on both types of campuses. Many black colleges were started right after the civil war ended and when we black folks were not allowed admission into the predominately white institutions. HBCUs have allowed anyone regardless of ethnicity(cuz there's only one race, the human race) to attend. and for people wondering why do we still have hbcus, the same can be said for whey is there still women-only colleges, or catholic schools, or yeshiva universities. and as far the teams go, there are white, hispanic, asian players on the various teams thru out all the different conferences. and like someone pointed out before, its a different type of experience at the games then at, say, a Michigan(and i am a die hard Wolverine fan) game. The bands, the cheerleaders, the dancer girls, the chants from the crowd. You wont understand unless you've been to an hbcu game. and lets not forget about the various classics...Battle of the Bay(Hampton vs Norfolk St), Battle for the Real HU(Hampton vs Howard), Circle City Classic, Music Bowl Classic, Gold Bowl. The rivalries between the hbcus are just as intense as the GA-UF, UMich-Ohio St, Cal-Stanford, etc rivalries. And we dont really have any representation in the EA ncaa games either, so why not create something to rep for the various black college conferences.
big up the real HU...HAMPTON!!!
shake deez!!!