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Posted: Sep 10th 2007 8:16PM (Unverified) said

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How/where did they get psn sales stats? The only people who would know are Sony and Co... anything else are bad estimates.

Posted: Sep 10th 2007 8:24PM (Unverified) said

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I'm sorry, but 100,000 in a week is pathetic. Halo, GTA, Gears of War have demolished this. Halo 3 will sell MILLIONS of copies in less than 24 hours. Now that's news worthy! But, I guess when there aren't that many PS3s in the consumer's house, this is viewed as good news. Congratulations Sony! *Here's a pat on the back*

Posted: Sep 10th 2007 8:47PM (Unverified) said

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@Dave
considering that Halo and GTA are both franchise games, and the fact that Gears was given major advertising to the mass-market, i should hope they all sold more their first week.

considering that Warhawk is based on an old PSone game that noone really remembers, AND the fact that it's an online ONLY title, i'd say it's off to a great start. you want to compare apples-to-apples, put it up against Shadowrun. i'd say that at 100k it's first, it's lookin' to whomp M$'s barely 250k TOTAL game...

Posted: Sep 10th 2007 8:48PM SuperGayParade said

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honestly Nick, I'm surprised you'd even post anything for VGChartz AKA numbers out of a teenagers a**. Plus I bet the number is even higher. He's just like "omg it has good press, i'll make teh # moderately high"

Posted: Sep 10th 2007 9:04PM (Unverified) said

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I gave up on vgcharts long ago. Not because of the sales numbers but because of the community. Its completly overrun by Wiiers. (not suprising considering how good the Wii sells)

If you look at the scores for games Wii games are always at the top of the list. Warhawk got a 6.13 which is way too low. About 8.1 is what I would give it.

Posted: Sep 10th 2007 9:07PM (Unverified) said

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I just found this lurking around vgcharts.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=6777&start=0#end

I know neither are comparible to the 360 at the moment but cmon. Thats pretty damn good for under a year.

Posted: Sep 10th 2007 9:08PM (Unverified) said

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@ Dave is well
elaborating on what solace said about halo/gears being franchises that is very true. but if you wanna use the first halo as an example, well, i don't know about first week sales for it, but it didn't reach 1 million copies until 4 MONTHS after release.

now no one can say for sure how warhawks pace will keep up over the next 4 months, but i say its defintely got a shot of surpassing those numbers. and it had no where near the amount of hype halo had. so leave your xbox fanboyism for elsewhere thanks

Posted: Sep 10th 2007 9:30PM (Unverified) said

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--"honestly Nick, I'm surprised you'd even post anything for VGChartz AKA numbers out of a teenagers a**."--

Nexgenwars is the "numbers out of a teenager's ass" site. VGChartz collects data from hundreds of retailers worldwide. Don't let the terrible name fool you -- it's a reputable site.

Posted: Sep 10th 2007 9:31PM (Unverified) said

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at No.1 (HaleysComet)

the fact that you even watched the VMA's last night, proves you and VGChartz lameness in the same sentence

Posted: Sep 10th 2007 10:01PM (Unverified) said

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Bioshock just did over 1 million... not that anyone is counting.

Posted: Sep 10th 2007 10:02PM (Unverified) said

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@Bluebrake...

Not really...it is just as poor as NGW but they go back and 'fix' their numbers as NPD comes out with theirs...

They don't have insider information anymore than you or I.

Quote:

# Sales figures are determined through two important methods

1. Data Sampling – VG Chartz gathers random data from a sample of the total number of retailers.
2. Shipment information – VG Chartz has contacts with publishers who give their best estimates on number of products shipped.

# Because the number of retailers selling videogames is quite large, it is possible to attain statistically valid results from a small sample.

In other words they call their local GAME/Gamestop/EB and Target...

Posted: Sep 10th 2007 10:46PM ruibing said

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@8

If VGChartz only covers in store purchases, then does that mean it didn't even count the downloaded purchases? I think just as many bought the game in a store as they did online, so if they didn't count the downloads, then shouldn't it be like double that amount? But either way, its pretty good a new franchise that has not had very little publicity. I'll be adding my purchase in when I get back from school in December.

Posted: Sep 10th 2007 10:08PM (Unverified) said

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@x silence x

Um...NO.

Take 2 has only SHIPPED 'just over' 1.5 million units of Bioshock in TOTAL for both PC and Xbox (see their quarterly filing as of today) http://ir.take2games.com/ReleaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=263379 . It is IMPOSSIBLE that they could have sold 1 million in one week on the X

Bioshock is estimated to have sold approx 400,000 in its first week or 4 times what Warhawk is estimated to have sold. The US install base of X is 3.5 times that of the PS3.

Posted: Sep 10th 2007 10:53PM (Unverified) said

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100 000 should be enough of a base to keep this game going for a while.

Posted: Sep 10th 2007 11:02PM (Unverified) said

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@Solace

please dont compare halo with..this game..or this game with shadowrun infact.

halo was a launch title, and we all know how well that went.

and shadowrun, lol, who the hell is gona buy that when they have already so many other games to get on the 360..

this game, for now, is the only thing worth while to get for the ps3, it better have huge sales.

Posted: Sep 10th 2007 11:51PM (Unverified) said

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Lets see, 100,000 units sold, at least 3 game killing bugs per unit. that leaves 300,000 problems this game has caused in one week. Way to go Incognito in releasing a game with more bugs than its beta phase had.

Posted: Sep 10th 2007 11:18PM In A World said

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So you've finally thrown the intangible object card! Shameless... simply shameless... it's no excuse!

Posted: Sep 11th 2007 12:14AM SuperGayParade said

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OHH you're right! Thanks bluebrake, sorry Nick. xoxo

Posted: Sep 11th 2007 12:25AM (Unverified) said

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"a game with more bugs than its beta phase had"
You obviously weren't in the beta. If you think the actual release is anywhere near as bad as that was when it was first made available, you weren't paying a damn bit of attention. Or you are talking out of your ass, one of the two.

I've heard several times that the 100,000 number is only for the BluRay edition since vgchartz can't even try to track PSN sales. We'll have to wait for Sony to provide some numbers for that before we know for sure. At the very least, based on the leaderboards, we know it's sold 105,112 at absolute minimum since that's how many people are currently ranked.

Posted: Sep 11th 2007 1:23AM heypaul said

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So how do we tell if VGChartz is only including retail sales data and not PSN sales?

Here's a shot. Warhawk has been released online in all regions, yet only at retail in North America. For any particular game, VGChartz breaks down sales numbers by region. Take a look at Motorstorm's chart, for example:
http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=3850
Yellow for Japanese sales, blue for North American sales, and green for other regions.

With this in mind, if that the 100,000 number included online sales, we should see a chart with colors for all three regions, whereas if it only included retail sales, we'd see a chart with only North America's blue.
http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=7238
And the latter is exactly what we see. The logical conclusion would be that the 100,000 number is a VERY conservative estimate that includes only retail. In fact, I'd go so far as to change the title of the post to "100,000 (retail) units in a week..."

Posted: Sep 11th 2007 2:44AM (Unverified) said

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Thats a lot of Jabra headsets!

Posted: Sep 11th 2007 8:05AM Andir said

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The Jabra isn't bad at all. People have no problem hearing me and after I finally got it adjusted for my ear, I found it highly comfortable. I just wish it lasted more than ~4 hours on a charge (I honestly don't remember how long it was as I wasn't paying attention to time) :p Those long Warhawk sessions last week when I was off work were awesome!

Posted: Sep 12th 2007 2:25PM (Unverified) said

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I played for 6 hours last night and loved every moment. I would recommend getting the store version so you'll be "mic"-ed up. Communication is key in a good CTF... especially when there is 16 people on your team and there is no time to read the flag status warnings.

Posted: Sep 11th 2007 10:34AM (Unverified) said

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Don't trash VGchartz and then use their numbers the one time you're happy with them, WTF is wrong with you people? Lair sold 100K too btw, lol, somehow I don't think it'll have legs though.

PS3 fans seems to dislike them because they don't honor the wishes of every "YOUR NUMBERS ARE WRONG ACCORDING TO SONY'S PRESS RELEASE" thread. Which happens about 20 times a week.

Posted: Sep 11th 2007 10:58AM Byron517 said

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I have fun everytime that I play!! Warhawk to me is the funniest multiplayer I'm currently playing! I can't wait to see what updates they'll have for the game!

Posted: Sep 11th 2007 11:30AM (Unverified) said

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Article Translation:
"We don't trust VGChartz, but by God, they said Warhawk sold 100,000 units, so we'll let them slide THIS time."

They don't call this place PS3Fanboy for nothing, eh?

Nice.

Posted: Sep 11th 2007 7:51PM Andir said

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You can tell the demographic by the game rating page :)

Posted: Sep 12th 2007 5:16AM (Unverified) said

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amusing to see so many xbox fanboys devouring every bit of news on ps3fanboy! keep up the good work editors. btw, warhawk is a psn title. Compare it with other downloadable titles if you really can't resist your comparison urge.

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