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Posted: Sep 12th 2007 4:14AM (Unverified) said

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I'm still pissed retailers gassed the Black Box.
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Posted: Sep 12th 2007 4:20AM (Unverified) said

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Well this is officially the best price in gaming...60 bux for 5 games? Are teh serious?
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Posted: Oct 15th 2007 8:54AM (Unverified) said

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Well, you could get it at steam for 50 bux ;D
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Posted: Sep 12th 2007 4:23AM zsavior said

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Look Portals and Team Fortress alone makes this thing worth it, I hate shooters and this still looks good.
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Posted: Sep 12th 2007 4:40AM waynski1457 said

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jeez thats gonna take forever! but it will be worth it!
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Posted: Sep 12th 2007 6:28AM (Unverified) said

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But what about entitlements? LOL
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Posted: Sep 12th 2007 9:03AM (Unverified) said

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i just want episode 2 for PC :(
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Posted: Sep 12th 2007 9:37AM foxhound said

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For those who don't know, "the Engineer" video is up.
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Posted: Sep 12th 2007 10:00AM jynxycat said

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ps. Pre-order it on Steam, beta test TF2 next week :O
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Posted: Sep 12th 2007 10:38AM JonahFalcon said

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Here's the way it is, Joystiq:

There's more than 60 achievements due to the fact there's 4 games.

HOWEVER, its still a $60 product, so they can't include more than 1000 Achievement points.
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Posted: Sep 12th 2007 11:07AM Duke said

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Huh? There are 5 games not 4. I don't remember them ever saying the price of a game dictated its achievements. If thats the case, $29 games would get less.
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Posted: Sep 12th 2007 11:30AM JonahFalcon said

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A single retail product, then (rolling eyes). The rules are quite clear. You can only get the 250 additional on a seperate paid expansion.
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Posted: Sep 12th 2007 11:38AM (Unverified) said

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who gives a fuck about achievements? they don't do anything
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Posted: Sep 12th 2007 9:38PM (Unverified) said

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I give a fuck because achievements (or rather, gamerscore) is the closest way anyone's ever come up with for a system-wide high score list. High scores are one of the best remnants of the old arcade days, and MS is at least trying to retain some of that arcade goodness.

Does it do anything? No. Does it add some more replay value to games, and challenges you to beat your friends in stuff? Hell yeah it does.
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Posted: Sep 17th 2007 2:25AM Some Guy said

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i care about gamerscores like i care about apple computers, or stocks, or analist opinions.
when i see a new one, i go huh. thats cool, and go on.
it also depends on how big of a pain in the ass it is.
i think it should just be things that you get, such as in stranglehold getting 5 ballshots in a row, or staying 10 minutes in the darkness (fps make out scene ftw!)
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Posted: Sep 12th 2007 1:14PM RotBot said

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I don't think Episodes 1 and 2 would count as separate games. They're 5 to 10 hour-long expansion packs.

5000 achievement points is unlikely to happen. Oblivion's Shivering Isles expansion, which has 30 hours of gameplay, offered only 250 achievement points.
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Posted: Sep 12th 2007 3:49PM Bentzero said

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I'd count Ep.1 and 2 as games, but not full retail games. Keep in mind that some full games are only 7 hours long. I guess a better description is that you're getting 5 titles, 3 of which are full games and two are expansions. I'm actually looking forward to this more than Halo 3.
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Posted: Sep 12th 2007 6:41PM (Unverified) said

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This is gonna sound like a very dumb question but here goes. I'm new to the whole xbox360 thing and I have no idea what the whole point of achievements are. Is it just so you can say, "Yep. I got them all" all proud like, strutting with your thumbs in your pits, or can you trade them in to get free stuff on XBOX Live or something(this I'm doubting)? And what the point of the "Gamerscore"? Yeah, I'm out of touch apparently. If someone could finally help me out with these I'll bow my head to the impending sarcasm surely to follow. Now excuse me while I put on my acid wash jeans and listen to some Journey.
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Posted: Sep 12th 2007 9:45PM (Unverified) said

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They're basically a cross-game high score list of sorts.

Gamerscore is a point value assigned to achievements. When you get an achievement, that achievement's gamerscore value is added to your gamerscore.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 10:02AM (Unverified) said

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hey man, don't worry about gamerpoints, you'll get addicted soon enough :) it's something we can't explain.
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