Ratchet & Clank demo now at GameStop

Same here. When I picked up Heavenly Sword, I got the dik too.

*DISK*

LOL.

So most games before last gen and every game before the PS1/N64 gen was worthless?

Right.

Oh by the way, the Wavebird didn't have rumble either. No one had a problem with that.

It must hurt badly when you see games like this on PS3, and realise other consoles won't be capable of it, so I suppose bring up lame comments about rumble is the only natural reply.

I think you need to accept the PS3 is now flexing it's muscles, and there will be plenty more games, not even possible on 360.

Lol...what a joke mak.

If you don't think rumble is a key part of games and doesn't add to the fun factor of a game like R&C you are the one thats in serious denial here.

R&C looks like a great game graphically. But not extra ordinary can only be done on the ps3....if such a thing even exist.

You sony fanboys keep claiming that stuff yet we haven't seen anything that even hints that its a reality.

The truth is that R&C could be on the 360 and look JUST AS GOOD. It would just take more discs and I have no problems with that...especially since I'm not a fatass.

Please note that I KNOW R&C is a sony owned property or made by a company that is either sony owned or sony enslaved.

^ tru dat. it won't be flying off the shelves like halo 3 or anything, just make sure you get it on release n u should b fine.

they'd charge like 60 bucks a day or something though

Every time I ever rented one, it was like $30-40 bucks and you had to put down a deposit for the cost of the system (but they gave it back, obviously).

$30-40 bucks for a certain amount of days, I should say.

Video game rental stores still do it over here.
You have do make a 500$ credit to them but you get it back when you bring the console back. Last time I rented a 360 it was 60$ for a week.

I remember renting a N64 from blockbuster so I could use play 4 player mario kart those were the fucking days

lol, gamestop earns interest on all that preorder money. you could keep your money in your own bank/stocks/whatnot and earn more yourself.

and if gamestop is sold out (which they always are, since they only order as many as preorders), just head over to fry's, bestbuy, target, toysrus, etc. they almost always have tons of copies of games on release day, and they don't open the boxes and put the cd's behind the counter either

as much as this is gonna seem lame.. i try and support my friends over at one gamestop (its a really good store, he always lets me take home games before street date)so 5 bucks outta my pocket isnt anything... (and interest on 5 bucks < a month or two is pennies so who cares)

hell he would just give me the demo without any preorder probably anyways. (on top of my 17 preorder games i have currently)

yea i was just about to bring it to everyones attention that the demo is COMPLETELY FREE. the $5 down is subtracted from the total when you actually go and pick up the game. and another plus is that if you decide you don't want the game after playing the demo (which is crazy in and of itself) you can just move the preorder to some other game you want.

this definitely warrants a trip to gamestop for me as this is one of the games ive been waiting for. rather play it now then wait til oct. 4 for the PSN demo. plus preorders are the only way to get games on launch day where i live. they only order as much as the preorders and places like walmart dont even get the games for a couple days later. sucks ass really.

The interest on that $5 is almost non-existent that it hardly matters if we do it or not. If 1 million people put $5 down at an average of two weeks in advance (hardly anyone preorders more than a month out), the entire interest at a healthy 15% would amount to $28k. GameStop isn't making huge wads of cash on pre-orders. And this is all assuming the $5 per person actually goes into an interest bearing account and that interest bearing account actually returns 15%. The $5 itself is way too fragmented, coming in from thousands of stores, to be able to effectively move back into the company to utilize before the game actually releases. If anything, the $5 you put down just ends up in the hands of the game's publishers given the delay it would take for it to arrive in the GameStop main accounts.

Besides, I prefer to drop the $5 to know I can walk in and pick up a popular game without much of a hassle. I also do it with games (particularly Atlus ones) that I know are limited run and may not be able to get due to low volumes.

at some stores, maybe

i'd rather just avoid the hassle and go straight to bestbuy or something where I know there are tons of copies waiting, still in the box. sometimes they even knock off a few bucks on opening day

True, I suppose.

GameSpot should just put all new games behind glass cases so they never have to open them.

its not sony dude...grow up

...Or you could wait a month and download the demo for free.

At least they're offering a demo in the first place. Where's my Super Mario Galaxy demo?

no space to store the demo on the wii harddrive, lol

Marlos.
I'm pretty sure it's up to sony to decide whether psn or gamestop gets the demo first.
Also given the fact it's released first on a pressed disc, as opposed to direct download, means sony had more involvement than you'd like us to believe.

Food for thought,
If you have to put any money down (even for a preorder), technically, it isn't free.
If it really was free, anyone could walk in and get a copy of the demo, without giving any money.

It's not rated mature but that doesn't stop it from being a fun action packed shoot 'em up/platformer.

No, you won't like it. Save your money for Manhunt 2.

yeah but they make a fuckton of cash by buying used games for half their cost, then turning around and charging double what they paid

and that best buy probably had more copies than you think, they always do in my area

Not really a "fuck ton". You do have to realize GameStop does buy back numerous games that will never get sold. How much do you think they make on the millions of copies of old Madden games? Little to none. They'll buy them back at $5 and never sell them. Same goes with numerous other high-profile bombs (Lair, Perfect Dark Zero), pack-ins (Motorstorm) and sport games. The high markup is needed to counteract the losses taken from those trade-ins that will never sell.

I don't really have a problem with the Gamestop buying old games thing... but I do have a small problem with them buying out any other gamestores in existance, removing a little thing called choice from purely VG brick and mortar visits... Without competition beyond big box stores, gamestop is pretty much free to do whatever the hell they want with pricing and buyback on used games, which can be pretty bad. I know my local GS is still trying to sell GBA and even GB games at 10-15$ a pop, and that just ain't happenin for me...

Thus why I turn to online for used game purchasing, which has its own hassles when you have to return a non functioning product :/

Page tearing is the result of the framerate not synchronizing with the television, so you end up with "old" frames being drawn on the screen. The solution is called vertical sync. Vsync is an optimization, though, so it's usually not used in alpha builds, or games where benchmarks and bragging rights are more important than gameplay (ie, PC games running on $600 cards). PC developers, including those working with the 360, are notorious for tearing. It's a developer's issue, and is not in any way releated to hardware.

If a game has frame tearing, it's because the developers either haven't gotten around to optimizing it, or they just don't give a damn. I don't think "don't give a damn" is part of Insomniac's vocabulary, though. ;)

I must say I'm surprised that the demo is based on such an old build. Tearing makes a very bad impression, IMO.

No, PC developers normally don't turn it on by default. Most of those bragging rights games have a Vsynch option available to them which can be turned on (cursory install of old PC games in my library show it used no later than 1999, could have been used earlier than that). When it comes to the faster cards, the refresh rates those monsters are able to pump out overwhelm higher resolutions on monitors. My 8800GTX can refresh around 100 Hz at the maximum resolution of my monitor, but the monitor can only handle 60. As such, everything I run is at monster resolutions and I turn on Vsynch in each one of them. This causes other issues like artifacts if Vsynch is not used. To counteract this, PC developers force the game to refresh at the same rate as your desktop. There just isn't an existing automatic software system that dynamically adjusts Vsynch on the fly.

Because the PS3 and 360 have to deal with multiple resolutions now, PC developers have the advantage for the moment. They've been programming with Vsynch in mind for 9 years at the minimum (again, based on me pulling out old PC games and finding the option in the graphics menu). Console developers, who have traditionally only had to worry about one resolution, aren't adept at it. If the PC developers were the ones that had the problems, the 360 would be the console experiencing the problems, not the PS3, which is dominated by mostly console-exclusive developers. Insomniac is not a PC developer, which doesn't surprise me that R&C even has these issues in this build. PC developers use Vsynch as almost second nature and would have been in there in an early build, a console developer will need more work since it is a foreign concept to them, thus why it will show up at a later date.

However, the gap will quickly close as console developers figure out how to make their games work over different resolution levels.

but the last 2 ratchets weren't nearly as good as the first 2, because they diverted resources to multiplayer. I personally never played ratchet online, nor cared to. The story and the normal levels are too awesome, along with all the weapons and gadgets.

Man I loved that black hole gun from the 3rd one, that was awesome