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Posted: Sep 17th 2007 10:53PM LAZoftheTamarinds said

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Well this sucks. Why would they do that?
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Posted: Sep 17th 2007 11:27PM cc123 said

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Because most casuals don't post on gaming forums.
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Posted: Sep 17th 2007 11:48PM JoshMilewski said

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Exactly. I'm starting to really dislike this move by Nintendo away from gamers and toward the casual market. I just desperately hope Super Mario Galaxy and Super Smash Bros. Brawl (most importantly) can show me they still care.

I thought the site needed a redesign, but I know it's not going to turn out as something that's designed for us.
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Posted: Sep 17th 2007 11:53PM BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam said

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I honestly don't think they're turning away from gamers in favor of casuals, but are trying to appeal to both. That's possible, ya know.

Goddamn, you doom-and-gloom guys piss me off.
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Posted: Sep 18th 2007 12:03AM JoshMilewski said

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Just saying what I'm seeing.
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Posted: Sep 18th 2007 12:03AM (Unverified) said

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BPM, removing an established gaming community of over 200,000 members is not considered catering to gamers.
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Posted: Sep 18th 2007 12:13AM (Unverified) said

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Why would they do that? Well obviously 'cuz of "blah blah blah" oh shut up everybody and let's see what the new site looks like maybe?
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Posted: Sep 18th 2007 2:31AM samfish said

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I'm hijacking the topline thread to say...

Can we get a chatroom for the site, Joystiq? A forum would be alright, too.
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Posted: Sep 18th 2007 3:46AM (Unverified) said

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well, as 76% of casual gamers are females, we don't want to hang out with their sort anyway!

Its against rule 2.3b of the Hardcore Gamers Rulebook to consort with females. Noob.
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Posted: Sep 17th 2007 10:55PM whymog said

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Nintendo's always had a pretty terrible web presence. Unfortunately, this doesn't surprise me. :\
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Posted: Sep 18th 2007 5:47AM Extinction said

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" but are trying to appeal to both. That's possible"

No it's not. They are polar opposites.
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Posted: Sep 18th 2007 10:06AM (Unverified) said

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Polar opposites my ass.

Real gamers like games. They don't care if they are intended for casual or hardcore. What matters is if it's fun to play. If Tetris or Dr. Mario came out nowadays, everyone would call it a casual game. Same for PacMan, Q-bert, Pong, Asteroids, and many of the classics. There was no bull over whether games were casual or hardcore. It was just fun. This industry started on these games and now when games come out now that are on par with these classics, they get called casual. What's the issue with casual? Half the so called "hardcore" gamers I have ever met are just Posers. Have you played Madden, but never/barely played PacMan? Poser. Have you played GTA, but never/barely played Space Invaders? Poser. Have you played Final Fantasy, but never/barely played Arkanoid? Poser. If you think the only games worth playing are Halo, WoW or Zelda, then you don't know shit. Poser. And you know what? I am tired of Elitist Posers coming around and shooting off their mouths about what it means to be hardcore and how lame the casual games are. I am glad that Nintendo is making games for everyone. I wish Sony and Microsoft would follow more. You go ahead and play you "hardcore" games. I'm gonna play my Metroid Prime 3 and Warioware. Maybe follow up with more FFXII and then Settlers of Catan on XBLA. Which one of those is hardcore and which are not? Fuck if I know. I'm a gamer and I don't care, just give something fun.
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Posted: Sep 18th 2007 10:37AM heypaul said

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Quit crying, poser.
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Posted: Sep 18th 2007 1:16PM Vegeta has a ps3 said

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@shiggy.

Um yes it is dumbass.

It's called the pc.
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Posted: Sep 17th 2007 10:58PM CB said

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This is an outrage!

Time to go to GameFAQS.
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Posted: Sep 18th 2007 2:04AM samfish said

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Oh where EVER will I go to whine now?!

YES! GameFAQS! Brilliant!
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Posted: Sep 17th 2007 11:00PM (Unverified) said

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I'm guessing they're going to make something more in line with Wii (and thus having to revamp a lot of stuff, like spoilers, language, rumors, etc). Easier to start off with a fresh slate than to try and manually tweak the whole thing.
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Posted: Sep 17th 2007 11:00PM (Unverified) said

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Does this mean Fernando will be posting twice as much on Joystiq?
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Posted: Sep 17th 2007 11:21PM sicsided said

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Hahah, nice. Nice.
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Posted: Sep 18th 2007 12:03AM NightElve said

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:(
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Posted: Sep 18th 2007 12:52AM (Unverified) said

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As an ally of Fernando's..., damn, you zinged him good. Nice.
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Posted: Sep 18th 2007 2:25AM (Unverified) said

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LOL! Zing! With a capital Z and exclamation mark! =D
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Posted: Sep 18th 2007 10:41AM Duke said

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Can’t believe Fernando didn't comment on this zing. Pretty damn funny.

Now in all seriousness, The Sony Underground forums can host you all I bet - they need some more folks squawking in there. Get your hate on!
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Posted: Sep 17th 2007 11:01PM (Unverified) said

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Nintendo hates online, in all it's nefarious forms. The Wii was the hint, this is the proof.
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Posted: Sep 18th 2007 1:17AM (Unverified) said

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Nintendo hates dissension. Anyone familiar with Nintendo's history is all too aware of their lust for control (whether it be the content or development of a game, the exchange that occurs between players, acknowledgment of consumer demand, or the discourse on a fan site).

Perhaps, we've all come to attribute a "kiddy" image to Nintendo primarily because they try so very hard to act like our parents.

That said, it's premature to say just what this move means, but it's still telling that we all know Nintendo well enough to jump to the same conclusion. Hopefully, many of us will be proven wrong.

P.S.: considering just how much of the Wii's early success can be attributed to Nintendo's loyal fans who braved long lines and winter cold to have cameras and newscasters give the world notice of this innovative box, you'd think Nintendo would be more gracious. Does a site update even necessitate taking down forums?
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Posted: Sep 18th 2007 4:25AM BurntMeatloaf said

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fawazer: "Does a site update even necessitate taking down forums?"

An update, yes. A redesign, no.

Even then, a site conversion will usually only take a day, maybe more if they really suck at it.

To take forums offline "indefinitely" might be because of a serious security or administration problem that needs to be fixed before word gets around to some truly sinister people.
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Posted: Sep 17th 2007 11:01PM (Unverified) said

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They will bring it back, but, you will only be known by your 16 digit friend code.
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Posted: Sep 17th 2007 11:32PM (Unverified) said

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lol, that like what, your 200th troll post of the day, do you just hit refresh over and over again and hope there something you can try to bash. Its like you made a list of common bash phrases, then just insert a random one to what ever the topic is.

Here another one, I hope they don't have to start firing people like Sony did.
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Posted: Sep 17th 2007 11:54PM BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam said

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Friend Codes are 12-digits, troll.

The Wii Number is NOT a Friend Code.
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Posted: Sep 18th 2007 12:13AM Vegeta has a ps3 said

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??? Who the fuck 1up him?
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Posted: Sep 18th 2007 12:58AM (Unverified) said

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If you want to read all the post he has done recently, goes along the terms of, LOL RROD, LOL sony are a bunch of hypocritical, lol M$ paid
for titles. LOL LOL LOL,

You get the picture. One of those people that like to post stupid crap comments.

"??? Who the fuck 1up him?" What the hell does that mean?
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Posted: Sep 18th 2007 1:12AM (Unverified) said

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phattie's up to 2.5 hearts for a mindless trolling comment. Preposterous. SOMEBODY must pay.
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Posted: Sep 18th 2007 2:03AM samfish said

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You know what I've never seen? 1.5 hearts. I just realized that.
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Posted: Sep 17th 2007 11:02PM (Unverified) said

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haha
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Posted: Sep 17th 2007 11:05PM (Unverified) said

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It's about time.
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Posted: Sep 17th 2007 11:08PM Alexisonfire said

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Congratulations to one "Elrade", who had the honours of the last post.

Is it just me, or is this another middle finger to the hardcore from nintendo?
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Posted: Sep 17th 2007 11:12PM hvnlysoldr said

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It's you. Whenever anyone asks that it's always them.
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Posted: Sep 17th 2007 11:25PM Alexisonfire said

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It may be me, but it still doesn't change my opinion of the matter.

I may not have gone to the forums, but it does make sense. Casual gamers aren't ones to go on a forum and talk about video games. And since Nintendo's focus has shifted on them (becoming ever closer to exclusively), it does not make business sense to support the forums your market does not use.
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Posted: Sep 17th 2007 11:42PM (Unverified) said

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Whats strange is that it basically costs nothing to run a forum.. all the content is user created; they just have to set up a nintendo themed place for their fans to congregate (rather than someplace else) and post their thoughts.

Apparently, Reggie felt there was a problem with that?
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Posted: Sep 18th 2007 8:21AM (Unverified) said

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OMG that guy is sad and will probably kill himself now. 16,000 (yes thousand!) posts on a Nintendo forum!? And he only registered barely a year ago. That is pathetic!
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Posted: Sep 17th 2007 11:13PM (Unverified) said

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I never really did like the fourms...a 3 day wait to post is boring. Glad I started working on my own site >_
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Posted: Sep 17th 2007 11:56PM BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam said

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When I visited, it never took 3 days. Maybe 3 minutes if servers were bogged down, but that's the worst I ever experienced.
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Posted: Sep 17th 2007 11:12PM (Unverified) said

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As a devout member of The Forums Formerly Known As Nsider, I am royally pissed off. This, along with the rumors that the Big N is halting publication of its Nintendo Power magazine, is a huge blow to Nintendo's loyal fans and removes all doubt that there is just not going to be a bright future for the "gamers".

If Ninty is demolishing their forums just to cater to the casual gamers (as possibly evidenced in the statement, "Nintendo is working... to support the continued success of Nintendo DS and Wii."), then I say, SCREW YOU NINTENDO.

But I digress. There has to be a deeper issue here; even the user moderators were not given notice of this shutdown until it happened today.
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Posted: Sep 18th 2007 1:13AM (Unverified) said

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nSiders unite. Preach on.
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Posted: Sep 18th 2007 7:54AM Sponge said

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"This, along with the rumors that the Big N is halting publication of its Nintendo Power magazine"

Has anyone thought about there might be a forum Channel and Nintendo Power Channel on the Wii and Nintendo just wants everything in one place?
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Posted: Sep 18th 2007 5:28PM Mr Khan said

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I too have been pondering that, while a lot of Nintendo's disreputable moves have always had an explanation (1st party devs hated load times, thus cartridges and mini-dvd's, the accessibility of a low cost and low tech Wii, even the click-and-go with no frills attached nature of their online play) these recent moves make no sense at all, unless placed in the context of Wii-based replacements for these losses

I mean this one in particular doesn't make sense, the Nsider forums were prospering, and i don't know why they would want to get rid of them, as phattie said, it costs them little to nothing

There is no explanation for this, clearly
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Posted: Sep 17th 2007 11:14PM (Unverified) said

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Anyone notice the Nintendo Euorpe forums are down becuase of "We have temporarily suspended the community forums as we're resolving a security issue.
We apologise for any inconvenience this has caused"?
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Posted: Sep 17th 2007 11:17PM (Unverified) said

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Someone probably posted a .php link and the forums exploded.
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Posted: Sep 17th 2007 11:46PM (Unverified) said

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Hahaha, nice. I remember that bitch of a problem on the forums.
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