Remember when Sony's Phil Harrison called rumble a "last generation feature?" Well, can't call the man a liar because he was absolutely right! GameDaily BIZ confirmed with Sony today that the technology in the recently announced DualShock 3 is identical to that in the DualShock 2. So anybody expecting Immersion's next-gen rumble technology can just let those dreams pass into the ether.
As for battery life, the DualShock 3 will last approximately 15 hours with the rumble feature on, and 30 hours (the same as the Sixaxis) with it off. As for the DualShock 3 replaces the Sixaxis, Sony Corporate Communications' Kimberly Otzman says, "Nothing has been decided yet, stay tuned." The natural assumption would be the DualShock 3 will replace the Sixaxis across the board by holiday '08, but don't expect any announcements like that until early next year.
Reader Comments (189)
Posted: Sep 21st 2007 3:32PM Vegeta has a ps3 said
The reason why people aren't ever going to forget what they said about rumble is because they sounded so arrogant about it. I mean they could have said something else with out revealing the lawsuit (but I mean come on, this is the internet you can't hide anything from us), but instead they took the douchebag route. That's the reason why people will not let them live this down.
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Posted: Sep 21st 2007 3:41PM (Unverified) said
Look. All huge company's that manufacture hardware are douchebags. Apple, Microsoft, Nintendo....it goes with the territory. They all say stupid shit and act like they are gods gift to the consumer.
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Posted: Sep 21st 2007 3:56PM (Unverified) said
@JL
True all (most) large companies act as douchbags and say stupid things from time to time, but its also true that these days when they do there will be someone (media or the internet) to call them out out for it.
Don't you just love information transparency and technology globalization.
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True all (most) large companies act as douchbags and say stupid things from time to time, but its also true that these days when they do there will be someone (media or the internet) to call them out out for it.
Don't you just love information transparency and technology globalization.
Posted: Sep 21st 2007 4:07PM (Unverified) said
@ Almack
"its also true that these days when they do there will be someone (media or the internet) to call them out out for it."
O Rlly?
I didnt know the media or internet was readily available for people to call out companies with. Thanks for the enlightenment.
Signed,
Your pally JL
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"its also true that these days when they do there will be someone (media or the internet) to call them out out for it."
O Rlly?
I didnt know the media or internet was readily available for people to call out companies with. Thanks for the enlightenment.
Signed,
Your pally JL
Posted: Sep 21st 2007 4:23PM FrankTheCrank said
Who cares? Everyone knows it should have been there from the start.
Arrogant? What about Microsoft saying HDMI wasn't needed?
It goes both ways. Just shut the computer off and go enjoy your favorite console.
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Arrogant? What about Microsoft saying HDMI wasn't needed?
It goes both ways. Just shut the computer off and go enjoy your favorite console.
Posted: Sep 21st 2007 4:38PM DarkTetsuya said
So Sony can be a bunch of hypocrites? You're saying this bait-and-switch crap is okay, so obviously you are.
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Posted: Sep 21st 2007 4:42PM (Unverified) said
Except when 360 Came out, a lot of tvs were still being sold with DVI, and the HDMI wasn't even enabled for sound yet on a lot of the ones that were equipped.
I'm sure you'll love your last gen controller to play your 3 gens ago metal gear game on.
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I'm sure you'll love your last gen controller to play your 3 gens ago metal gear game on.
Posted: Sep 21st 2007 4:43PM (Unverified) said
Except when 360 Came out, a lot of tvs were still being sold with DVI, and the HDMI wasn't even enabled for sound yet on a lot of the ones that were equipped.
I'm sure you'll love your last gen controller to play your 3 gens ago metal gear game on.
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I'm sure you'll love your last gen controller to play your 3 gens ago metal gear game on.
Posted: Sep 22nd 2007 12:48PM (Unverified) said
Attention puny Earth people;
I your Galactic President Zaphod Beeblebrox have a statement to make.
For those of you wondering why I have not responded I give you my reason now.
My responsibilities span the entirety of the 100K lightyears of this galaxy. I was at a brothel on Slutimous Prime. I know its hard 2 believe, but this blog is not very important to me. I come here for a few laughs and when I am board. Being the Galactic President does have its perks but it can get quite boring at times. Yes I have Venuvian Slave Girls wiping my Presidential backside, that is just one of their duties. Every once in a while I like to do some things for myself just to remind myself what a typical peon's life is like. You and your boyfriends Kaye and Fernando are pretty talented to be able to post multiple times on every single PS3 related thread while you are having "relations" with each other's "special" places.
Even though as the Galactic President I could have you, your family, and your entire backwards "we are the center of the Universe" pathetic little dirtball of a planet wiped out again (don't tempt me, because you know I have already done it once) to make way for a hyperspace bypass, I will show how powerful I am by allowing you to go on about your pathetic little lives for at least a little while longer.
As your Galactic President, I demand that you make funny with your trolling remarks and to not take this crap so seriously.
Now, here is the part you filthy little peasants have been waiting for.
I WAS WRONG. SONY DID SOMETHING STUPID INSTEAD OF DOING SOMETHING SMART. Just like you, I do not understand why they would not incorporate the new haptic force feedback technology that has been around since 2006. Maybe the cost (at this time) is to high for it to make sense. I do think that Sony should give a reason for why they did not include Touchsense in the DualShock3. If they dont, maybe I will send some Vogon poetry to their corporate offices in my disgust.
Now, if you will excuse me, I have to go, I need to decide if the hyperspace bypass is worth it. Don't worry, if I decide that it is, you will never know.
Your humble Galactic President,
Zaphod
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I your Galactic President Zaphod Beeblebrox have a statement to make.
For those of you wondering why I have not responded I give you my reason now.
My responsibilities span the entirety of the 100K lightyears of this galaxy. I was at a brothel on Slutimous Prime. I know its hard 2 believe, but this blog is not very important to me. I come here for a few laughs and when I am board. Being the Galactic President does have its perks but it can get quite boring at times. Yes I have Venuvian Slave Girls wiping my Presidential backside, that is just one of their duties. Every once in a while I like to do some things for myself just to remind myself what a typical peon's life is like. You and your boyfriends Kaye and Fernando are pretty talented to be able to post multiple times on every single PS3 related thread while you are having "relations" with each other's "special" places.
Even though as the Galactic President I could have you, your family, and your entire backwards "we are the center of the Universe" pathetic little dirtball of a planet wiped out again (don't tempt me, because you know I have already done it once) to make way for a hyperspace bypass, I will show how powerful I am by allowing you to go on about your pathetic little lives for at least a little while longer.
As your Galactic President, I demand that you make funny with your trolling remarks and to not take this crap so seriously.
Now, here is the part you filthy little peasants have been waiting for.
I WAS WRONG. SONY DID SOMETHING STUPID INSTEAD OF DOING SOMETHING SMART. Just like you, I do not understand why they would not incorporate the new haptic force feedback technology that has been around since 2006. Maybe the cost (at this time) is to high for it to make sense. I do think that Sony should give a reason for why they did not include Touchsense in the DualShock3. If they dont, maybe I will send some Vogon poetry to their corporate offices in my disgust.
Now, if you will excuse me, I have to go, I need to decide if the hyperspace bypass is worth it. Don't worry, if I decide that it is, you will never know.
Your humble Galactic President,
Zaphod
Posted: Sep 21st 2007 3:42PM Fernando Rocker said
Im not going to troll... Im just going to clarify the things that PS3 fanboys said here, on Joystiq: They said first that rumble last gen, then people like Godisamyth and Curmeo and other extreme PS3 fanboys keep saying that it is going to be Touchsense blah blah blah...
Im not trolling, just telling the true. And the true hurts.
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Im not trolling, just telling the true. And the true hurts.
Posted: Sep 21st 2007 3:46PM Fernando Rocker said
This is from Godisamtyh:
"Yes, basic rumble is last-gen. What they are talking about is a new technology by Immersion called haptic force feedback or as they like to call it Touchsense. This is different from basic rotating motor rumble."
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/04/rumor-rumbling-sixaxis-to-gain-touch-sensitivity-as-well/
This is from Curmeo:
"awesome news. Sony will show everyone what next-gen rumble will feel like, as opposed to 360 controller's last-gen rumble and Wii Remote's cellphone-like rumble.
now a special message for all the Sony/PS3 haters/trolls: Sixaxis motion technology was patented by Sony long before any Wii Remote motion patent. Improving the Sixaxis motion accuracy should be viewed as a positive improvement and good news. companies always improve their existing products, including both Nintendo and MS."
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/02/rumor-rumble-sixaxis-in-developer-hands/2
So, Shut your Fucking Mouths
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"Yes, basic rumble is last-gen. What they are talking about is a new technology by Immersion called haptic force feedback or as they like to call it Touchsense. This is different from basic rotating motor rumble."
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/04/rumor-rumbling-sixaxis-to-gain-touch-sensitivity-as-well/
This is from Curmeo:
"awesome news. Sony will show everyone what next-gen rumble will feel like, as opposed to 360 controller's last-gen rumble and Wii Remote's cellphone-like rumble.
now a special message for all the Sony/PS3 haters/trolls: Sixaxis motion technology was patented by Sony long before any Wii Remote motion patent. Improving the Sixaxis motion accuracy should be viewed as a positive improvement and good news. companies always improve their existing products, including both Nintendo and MS."
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/02/rumor-rumble-sixaxis-in-developer-hands/2
So, Shut your Fucking Mouths
Posted: Sep 21st 2007 4:00PM (Unverified) said
Yeah, Fernando, but at least EVERYONE can shut their fucking mouths. Since it's the same rumble that's in the Wii and 360, they can stop trying to pass off an off-balance electric shaver as superiority. Now everyone gets a feature that barely relates to what's going on on-screen.
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Posted: Sep 21st 2007 4:06PM ill trooper said
"They said first that rumble [was] last gen" - Fernando
...And you pick that one sentence to decide to believe? Since when does the Anti-Sony Patrol believe anything Sony says?
And I notice Sony using the same tech in their controller is deemed bashable by you here, but somehow the Wii using part of the same Gamecube chipset is probably totally fine by you.
Look man, I own all of the systems, it's great any time these companies add features. I'm not mad at 'em. When the Wii finally adds HD support, I'll buy that too.
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...And you pick that one sentence to decide to believe? Since when does the Anti-Sony Patrol believe anything Sony says?
And I notice Sony using the same tech in their controller is deemed bashable by you here, but somehow the Wii using part of the same Gamecube chipset is probably totally fine by you.
Look man, I own all of the systems, it's great any time these companies add features. I'm not mad at 'em. When the Wii finally adds HD support, I'll buy that too.
Posted: Sep 22nd 2007 12:14AM (Unverified) said
Arguing on the internet is like winning the special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded.
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Posted: Sep 21st 2007 3:31PM (Unverified) said
nice flamebait! good title. That should get you up to 100 posts.
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Posted: Sep 21st 2007 3:32PM (Unverified) said
im definitely disapointed with DualShock 3 not having TouchSense. however, DualShock 3 is still technically superior to 360's controller.
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Posted: Sep 21st 2007 3:40PM (Unverified) said
Hear hear Crono!
They need a design overhaul. It's not funny how behind the Ps3 controller is when compared to the uber comfy 360 controller and vaguely comfy Wii controller.
Still got triggers inside out? No PS3 for me.
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They need a design overhaul. It's not funny how behind the Ps3 controller is when compared to the uber comfy 360 controller and vaguely comfy Wii controller.
Still got triggers inside out? No PS3 for me.
Posted: Sep 21st 2007 3:46PM The Wicker Man said
eat a stick fanbot! 360 pad is soo much beter than the ps3 comfort wise for me.
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Posted: Sep 21st 2007 3:52PM (Unverified) said
can someone get curmeo and d-pad defense force tags please?! its easier to keep track of fanboys when they are labeled.
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Posted: Sep 21st 2007 3:54PM (Unverified) said
GRANTED:
New around here?
Re-install your sarcasm detector. It's clearly not working.
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New around here?
Re-install your sarcasm detector. It's clearly not working.
Posted: Sep 21st 2007 4:12PM dishwasher said
with those joysticks on the PS3 controller it will never be superiour
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Posted: Sep 21st 2007 4:14PM SpacePenguinBot said
The 360 controller is nicer than the PS3 in almost every way. But the one are where the PS3 controller blows the 360 away is in the d-pad. I can't count the number of times the 360 d pad has led me astray. Even on the dashboard, I'll press down, and it will take me sideways to the next blade.
Infuriating.
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Infuriating.
Posted: Sep 21st 2007 4:17PM Duke said
Another day of you talking out of your ass and making facts up. Just say it - you have no idea what the hell you are talking about Curmeo. Why is the ps2 rumble now in the ps3 so much more advanced? Come on Mr. MIT engineer wanna be - explain where the hell you came up with that!
The 360 controller is so much more comfortable, the sticks are less twitchy, the battery's can be swapped for recharge, the triggers are solid and comfortable, etc etc. I guarantee if you go read reviews, you stand in a minority making such lame comments about the 360 controller.
You are a blind frothing at the mouth fanboy who talks sh*t about other products because you want to validate your product love, but in the end that makes you have to lie and bullsh*t and we aren't falling for either.
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The 360 controller is so much more comfortable, the sticks are less twitchy, the battery's can be swapped for recharge, the triggers are solid and comfortable, etc etc. I guarantee if you go read reviews, you stand in a minority making such lame comments about the 360 controller.
You are a blind frothing at the mouth fanboy who talks sh*t about other products because you want to validate your product love, but in the end that makes you have to lie and bullsh*t and we aren't falling for either.
Posted: Sep 21st 2007 4:45PM (Unverified) said
Curmeo, sometimes I'm angry and sometimes I'm sad. Today, I'm sad.
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Posted: Sep 21st 2007 5:14PM heypaul said
There sure is a lot of hate here over something so trivial.
My two cents: I love my PS3 and never cared for rumble, but even I have no problem admitting we've got the worst controller this generation. The rechargeable battery is great, the fact that it works through Bluetooth is better, but the ergonomics are behind the times, the tilt is half-baked, and it's been nigh identical for three generations. Phil Harrison's hypocrisy is defendable (hey, everybody does it), but our crappy controller really is not.
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My two cents: I love my PS3 and never cared for rumble, but even I have no problem admitting we've got the worst controller this generation. The rechargeable battery is great, the fact that it works through Bluetooth is better, but the ergonomics are behind the times, the tilt is half-baked, and it's been nigh identical for three generations. Phil Harrison's hypocrisy is defendable (hey, everybody does it), but our crappy controller really is not.
Posted: Sep 21st 2007 8:15PM samfish said
Damnit, I thought you were banned.
The Playstation controller sucks, Curmeo. Admit it. Just because you refuse to touch another controller doesn't mean it's good.
That damn thing is so frickin' out of date it's laughable. Sony could at LEAST swallow their pride and swap the D-pad and left analog.
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The Playstation controller sucks, Curmeo. Admit it. Just because you refuse to touch another controller doesn't mean it's good.
That damn thing is so frickin' out of date it's laughable. Sony could at LEAST swallow their pride and swap the D-pad and left analog.
Posted: Sep 21st 2007 10:40PM (Unverified) said
It doesn't matter. SONY could have released a different, fully ergonomic, and wonderful controller with rumble and it would have been canned by the masses because it was different. You just can't please everyone. So they released what people were familiar with and its still not good enough. The only people that care are the haters anyway.
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2007 12:32AM samfish said
"It doesn't matter. SONY could have released a different, fully ergonomic, and wonderful controller with rumble and it would have been canned by the masses because it was different. You just can't please everyone."
Personally, as long as they didn't 'unveil' the PS3mote, I imagine I would've otherwise gave them The Official Samfish Seal of Approval.
They seriously need a new controller design.
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Personally, as long as they didn't 'unveil' the PS3mote, I imagine I would've otherwise gave them The Official Samfish Seal of Approval.
They seriously need a new controller design.
Posted: Sep 21st 2007 3:32PM (Unverified) said
He should have just admitted rumble wasn't last gen and watched his words. But Sony is trying to win support, I'll give them that.
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Posted: Sep 21st 2007 3:32PM (Unverified) said
L O FREAKING L!
Why people support this mess of a company makes no sense to me
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Why people support this mess of a company makes no sense to me
Posted: Sep 21st 2007 3:40PM (Unverified) said
Maybe because the are home to some of the best video games ever created. Shadow of the Colossus, Metal Gear Solid (the original) and Final Fantasy VII all come to mind.
I can understand how it would seem like they are incompetent to the Halo generation from some of the shit the execs say.
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I can understand how it would seem like they are incompetent to the Halo generation from some of the shit the execs say.
Posted: Sep 21st 2007 3:43PM (Unverified) said
Microsoft is a pretty big mess of a company too. Just sayin....they all suck. But I like video games so I'm going to keep playing them, which unfortunately means giving them my monies.
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Posted: Sep 21st 2007 4:01PM (Unverified) said
@Akamaru
i grew up on atari/nintendo/sega, i had a ps1 and ps2, they were both great consoles, sony just dropped the ball big time with the ps3, everything about the glorified bluray player is a joke when it comes to gaming
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i grew up on atari/nintendo/sega, i had a ps1 and ps2, they were both great consoles, sony just dropped the ball big time with the ps3, everything about the glorified bluray player is a joke when it comes to gaming
Posted: Sep 21st 2007 9:14PM (Unverified) said
Wait, it's ok for Sony to make crappy controllers because they made FFVII? That's wrong in 100 different ways.
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Posted: Sep 21st 2007 3:40PM (Unverified) said
Well, perhaps we'll get next-generation rumble next-gener... whatever. This is the sort of news that only matters to people that already hate Sony anyway.
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