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Posted: Sep 24th 2007 10:55AM (Unverified) said

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Announcing a 40GB version is pretty much irrelevant - they've already fucked up in every way possible and short of giving these things away for free, are not going to get back to #1 for a very long time.
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Posted: Sep 24th 2007 10:51AM (Unverified) said

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Wow. That's really getting Gates back for planning to release Halo 3 for ps3s launch.

I was really close to getting a 360 for Halo, but, c'mon. A 399$ ps3 has a lot more going for it, blu-ray and all. I think a lot of people can wait for games once it's that cheap.

Posted: Sep 24th 2007 11:04AM Crono141 said

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"A 399$ ps3 has a lot more going for it, blu-ray and all."

LOLOLOL.

Oh wait, you're serious.

BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!
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Posted: Sep 24th 2007 5:05PM (Unverified) said

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Losing USB ports? How do you charge your controllers then... Fucking morons.

Losing Backwards compatability? Then you need to get rid of the PS3 Cell chip... Fucking Morons again.

Posted: Sep 24th 2007 10:53AM (Unverified) said

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Is 40GB a good amount of space?

Posted: Sep 25th 2007 8:29AM BurntMeatloaf said

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20 ought to be enough, because that's what Sony has to support officially.

Really, does anyone know just how much space they need? The manufacturer has to support the smallest capacity available, and consumers don't know exactly how much space is really being used, especially in the long run.

Solution: sell the biggest hard drive available! 60... no, 80... no, 100!

Geez. They could've just said the 20GB model was the game system and the 80GB model is the home entertainment system. The problem with multiple SKUs is trying to get them all to do the same thing.
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Posted: Sep 24th 2007 10:53AM (Unverified) said

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BIG F-ING DEAL

Posted: Sep 24th 2007 10:58AM DBX00 said

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- Last time I checked sales for the 360 are stalled in every territory other than the U.S.

- How many DVDs are included with Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Halo 3. Capacity is always a benefit and if you're trying to create a media entertainment center in this day, having a HD platform is necessary.

- At $399 the price is competitive with the 360 premium, but includes a high-definition player. For some reason, the only difference I believe will exist between the 40GB and 80GB is the hard drive space and included game or movie. They are not going to go back to having a lower SKU when the 20GB was not received well by retailers.

- Bottom line: The war is far from over after one year of having each console on the market. The real winner won't appear until all the consoles hit the mainstream market price. If you hit the price and have the games, then you'll get the casual gamer to buy into the system. Clearly, with only like 25 million consoles sold in this generation, you still have over 75 million gamers that haven't bought a console yet.

Posted: Sep 24th 2007 11:08AM Crono141 said

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you do know what game is hitting tomorrow, right?

I wouldn't be suprized if 360 passed the the Wii in worldwide sales after this week. And after Microsoft rides out the halo3 rush of console buyers, they'll be in prime position to lower the price if they find sales begin to slow
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Posted: Sep 24th 2007 11:09AM (Unverified) said

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- Last time I checked sales for the 360 are stalled in every territory other than the U.S.

Sales might have slowed down, but they're still 2-1 at least when comparing to the PS3.

- How many DVDs are included with Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Halo 3.

Who really cares about having to switch a DVD every couple of days if it means getting the console at least 6 months earlier and saving at least $200?

You talk about it like cancer - people have been doing it for years with no issues.

- At $399 the price is competitive with the 360 premium, but includes a high-definition player.

So you're justifying a higher price for a console that doesn't perform as well (not even half as well as promised), doesn't have any killer games, and is such an abortion that a new version of it is being released every couple of months?

- If you hit the price and have the games, then you'll get the casual gamer to buy into the system.

But that's one of the many problems - they don't have the games, do they? Any killer games they have lined up in the distant future are also heading to the 360 - that's assuming that none of them are confirmed as 360 exclusives by then, and from the rate at which devs and publishers are jumping off Sony's sinking ship, don't be too surprised if it happens.

As for the price, what, you think only Sony can lower prices? If Sony lowers the price of the PS3 by $100 (and takes an even bigger financial hit per console sold as a result), then the other two companies will simply do the same - the difference being that it won't hurt them as much at all.
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Posted: Sep 24th 2007 11:04AM Infam0usP said

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this is another case of "TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE" for Sony.

and they should cut the USB ports down to 2, take the card readers out, and include the Dualshock-3: then you'll have a nice package for MGS4 (the only damn game that has me somewhat jealous of PS3 owners)

no clue why backwards compatiblity is possibly being removed...you can have a memory card or put a 20gb HDD on a 360 core and play old Xbox games with ease

f*** Sony if they seriously take out BC

Posted: Sep 24th 2007 11:12AM (Unverified) said

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I love you Sony, without you there would be no fun in video game news.

"The Wii controller is for little kids... blah blah" - Sony

So they try to do something like it and fail.

"The Xbox 360 has two models, that will confuse people. We don't want to confuse our base." - Sony

So instead they will release at least 2 new models a year, each one having different features!

Yeah Sony! Keep up the great work!

Posted: Sep 24th 2007 11:13AM (Unverified) said

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Technically, there's been MORE than 5 SKUs of the 360. You have the 5 you mentioned earlier, plus all the special limited editions

Anyone remember the Addidas edition? There's been other pack-ins or special versions.

Which also means Sony has had more than just the hardware ones. There's special packages in certain regions.

Posted: Sep 24th 2007 11:13AM (Unverified) said

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They can't spoil the Halo 3 launch. I hope they do announce this becuase I'm starting to feel bad for PS3 owners, I almost was one and am glad I dodged that bullet. Sony's really done their fanboys wrong with this one, and I loved the ps2.

Posted: Sep 24th 2007 11:25AM (Unverified) said

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sony seems so fucking lost, I'm staying out of there

Posted: Sep 24th 2007 11:25AM VampireHunterZ said

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I guess Sony is still experimenting with market to see what catches on. Obviously something cheaper but not crippled is the answer.

Posted: Sep 24th 2007 11:27AM (Unverified) said

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lollll
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Posted: Sep 24th 2007 11:29AM (Unverified) said

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Hm, wonder what's gonna happen with MGS4 finally hits? Or Final Fantasy XIII? If those remain exlusive .... Anyhoo, I'm only buying a PS3 for its UPcoming rpgs :p And I never understood the hype behind Halo. Subpar FPS ftl.

Posted: Sep 24th 2007 11:37AM (Unverified) said

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if i were you i'd take that money meant for a ps3, put it in a CD at a bank, and when those rpg's eventually come out, cash out the cd and you'll have an extra 30 bucks or so, that's half a game right there

or it might be more. i don't remember how compound interest works
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Posted: Sep 24th 2007 11:30AM (Unverified) said

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Sony has made tons of mistakes granted. But really If the Console war ended within the first year all systems were out, then whats the point?. Theres still a few good years left in this generation and I am betting that we are going to see more interesting things come up (I hope). The more competition the better. And if sony can turn things around then hey I am all for it.

On a side note. This generation of gaming just seems like the end of days with all the hate going around. I mean yeah fanboys have always been around but damn "Sony should Just DIE!" and shit like that. I mean come on unless sony ordered your whole family dead I don't think they deserve that. All this just seems equal to how racist hate other races. I don't get it, I own both systems and I just don't get where all this rage comes from. I like both they have different feels and I want both to stick around (nintendo will always be there so I am not worried for them).

In the end this is just games and we should all be happy to be apart of a cutting edge hobby. I mean we could all be knitting right now if it wasn't for these guys.

Posted: Sep 24th 2007 11:42AM (Unverified) said

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LOL at people think Sony will release 40GB on the same week of Halo 3

i think sony doesn't even care about Halo 3

Posted: Sep 24th 2007 11:48AM (Unverified) said

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Here's what I don't get: Sony started with a 20GB and a 60GB. They stopped the 20GB because basically everyone went for the 'real' model, or at least the one with the most features.

Now they have a 40GB and 80GB. Isn't the 40GB going to suffer the same fate as the 80GB? Just like fewer people buy the core model of the Xbox360 and most tend to go for the premium one?

Posted: Sep 24th 2007 11:49AM (Unverified) said

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we already know sony is dumb

and that last 80gb should be 20 in your post. too bad we can't edit
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Posted: Sep 24th 2007 11:59AM Starcade said

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"Last time I checked sales for the 360 are stalled in every territory other than the U.S."

I'm not sure the source of this information, however I do agree that the 360 is stalled in Japan. Elsewhere, the 360 is selling better than the Xbox did at the same point in it's life. In fact the 360 is selling better in Japan than the original Xbox. So Microsoft is selling more consoles than it ever did previously. I'm not sure that's a bad thing.

As far as Japan is concerned, I'm not sure the 360 will ever do well there. My only thought-- is that Microsoft should drastically reduce the pricing of the 360 in Japan and try to build their market that way. Even Sony priced the PS3 less in Japan than anywhere else in the world. Hmm...

Posted: Sep 24th 2007 12:01PM (Unverified) said

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Thanks for pointing out the mistake. I'm not saying that as an attack, I am just honestly wondering why Sony thinks the 40GB will do better than the 20GB.

Posted: Sep 24th 2007 12:27PM RKN said

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The 20gb version didn't have built in Wi-Fi nor card readers, so people must have been put off by that, at least I was.

I assume the 40gb will keep these? So I think the 40gb will do better.

Or hell, release one without a hard drive and let us put our own in it, wish the 360 could let us do that. : (

As a Sony fanboy, they should have released it without Blu-Ray to make it the same price as the 360, it would have sold better, and since more people would have had it, developers would make more games for it. Its a snowball effect, Blu-Ray wasn't a good idea.

They should have made one without it and one with it included for those wishing to watch Blu-Ray movies. At first, I thought Microsoft was idiotic for releasing the 360 again with DVD but in retrospect, nope, Sony made a blunder with this.

Just like Nintendo sticking to cartridges with the N64, so they lost a lot of games to Playstation's better CD format, such as FF7.
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Posted: Sep 24th 2007 2:14PM (Unverified) said

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The difference is that the 20 gig was released at a time when only the craziest of the hardcore were buying the system: the guys willing to pay any outrageous price for a console with only launch titles. These people weren't interested in a stripped down "bargain" version.

Now, a year later, the average consumers are starting to sniff the air for a PS3. It's cheaper, it's got more games, the bugs are worked out -- it's beginning to appeal to "normal" people. THESE are the folks who will buy a bargain version.

There's also an issue of absolute/relative price that probably plays a factor. At $500+, plopping down an extra $100 doesn't seem like a big deal. When the difference is $400 versus $500, though, that hundred dollar gap seems a lot bigger. It's a lot easier to justify the cheaper one.

That's why I think it's time for a 40 gig model. Hopefully Sony thinks so too.
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Posted: Sep 24th 2007 12:42PM zero2dash said

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But..but..but... I was just thinking of going and getting a 2nd and 3rd job just so I could afford a Ps3!

/sarcasm

Seriously...until I see some God of War 3 and WipeOut HD on shelves, I will not own a Ps3, not at the current prices and not at the 'fire sale' "let's upgrade one sku and sell off the low end sku for $100 cheaper" nonsense.

Get some games out there, make a low priced competitive system and give me some reasons to buy one despite being a current Wii60 owner, and THEN I'll get one. Until then...sod off, Sony; thus far, you've blown it.

Posted: Sep 24th 2007 12:50PM (Unverified) said

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the desperation is sad at this point...why none of this was done AT LAUNCH when it would of looked like a smart idea is beyond comprehension...early adapters FTL.

Posted: Sep 24th 2007 2:01PM (Unverified) said

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Old 'news' ... Actually it's just the same old rumor. The next-gen story links to sky-news which links to pocket-lint which links back to Ars from 2 weeks ago.

Posted: Sep 24th 2007 1:05PM ruibing said

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It just needs to lose Wifi, Chrome finish, and multimedia card inputs. All that plus a smaller hard drive should be enough to drop the price by $100. After having so many people playing their games at TGS, the software intro phase might be complete, so nows the time for cheaper hardware.

Posted: Sep 24th 2007 2:02PM (Unverified) said

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I'm not sure, maybe I'm greedy but I want a PS3 at a cheaper price point but with all the bells and whistles. I want to be able to get rid of my PS2 and still play my old games so a PS3 (even at 399) without BC is a deal breaker for me. Same thing with wireless, that's a no brainer. Maybe I'd have less use for the USB ports and the memory card slots so I won't be too irritated if those go.

We'll see. If the BC is gone (though I imagine it will just be emulated similar to the 80gig model) then I'll look toward the 60 gig one. It just means Sony will have to wait longer for me to be one of their disciples. Which is too bad really. The PS3 is slowly becoming more attractive, but I don't want a gimped box.

Maybe Sony should ditch Blu-Ray as their format of choice and reprint everything on DVDs. :P

Posted: Sep 24th 2007 2:15PM (Unverified) said

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wow, this is amazing, again, like half these comments are about how none of you will still not buy a ps3 because the wii60 will hold you over, until like 7 more years or something

don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with that

what I don't get is how you still have to say it...really after all of this time you still have to tell people you won't buy a ps3 and the wii60 is fine...why?...its common knowledge that the wii60 is much better...so why whenever the ps3 makes the slightest improvement, you people have to jump up and say " I still wouldn't buy one, 360 and wii are just perfect for me".....ahhhh duh we know that...so why are you saying this for the thousandth time


I mean hey the 360 is good and all but I can't just help but to feel disturb when I go to Target to buy some games and see like half the great games for the 360 are available for the pc better and cheaper..I know high-end gaming PCs are expensive but hell I have a good job, and if a better version of it exist on a pc, why the hell do I need a 360?...

So I am fine with the pc and ps3..I am comfortable...no need to come into 360 threads saying " I have no reason to buy a 360, Microsoft sucks" whenever the 360 makes a move...but here, you people claim your wii60s will be perfect, which is why you are here, on a ps3 thread saying the same shit over and over again


Jesus Fucking Chirst, the ps3 MIGHT become more affordable and you people still somehow think that this isn't going to make sony and the ps3 more competitive and demanding

Posted: Sep 24th 2007 2:29PM (Unverified) said

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What Sony needs to do is dump that damn Blu-ray in order to make the console cheaper

Posted: Sep 24th 2007 3:59PM (Unverified) said

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I could see them droping some ports maybe the card readers but not the USB as has been stated you cant charge controllers without USB and there are many perifials for it too (Headsets, memory card readers, controllers etc). I dont think they would sacrifice BC cause well they have the software BC decent and it wouldn't save a penny to remove it and cost them mindshare if they did.

I personnaly think it would be wise avoid most system cutbacks as the 20 gig version did not do well and many consider it a mistake. Like I said if you dont want to piss off too many people and not seem gimped I think it needs to retain the USB, BC, and WiFi. and I think most could live without the card readers(that is something that can be done via usb anyways).

Posted: Sep 24th 2007 11:20PM (Unverified) said

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I think that Sony pulled the 20 gig version before it even had a chance to sell. When the PS3 launched it was only the hardcore that were buying and no one wanted the 20 gig. There are plenty of more casual gamers that would have bought it for $400.00. They probably ended up pulling it because they were losing too much money on it and just told everyone that it was because it wasn't selling well. Actually, I think that they didn't say that it wasn't selling well, they just said that the 60 gig was selling better and it was what America preferred. Well, of course the 60 gig was outselling the 20 because the shipped about 3 times as many 60 gigs as the did 20. I really think that they always intended for the 20 gig model to be more of a limited edition think in America.

Posted: Sep 24th 2007 8:36PM T Newton said

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as far as the possibilty of removing backwards compatibility to reduce costs is concernced.. that doesn't make much sense to me. the 80gb ps3, and all future ps3s manufactured i'd assume, use software emulation for ps2 games. sony did cheapen their manufacturing for the current model by removing the ps2 chip, but the ps3 still maintains backwards compatibility (if in a more limited form..). my point is, removing the current software ps2 emulation wouldn't reduce costs (since it's, you know, just software).

Posted: Oct 1st 2007 10:54PM (Unverified) said

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Firstly if having more then 4 types of one product confuses people you fail who really gives a f**k??! every thing you buy has various models cars, electronics, computer parts blah blah , second i like to say i don't think a usb port cost all that much for a giant manufacturer like Sony i think a much cheaper ps3 would have to lose a lot more e.g. backwards compatibility

Posted: Oct 15th 2007 11:56PM Father Frank said

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I work for a major electronics retailer so I can guarantee you, 100%, that Sony WILL be releasing the 40GB PS3 here in the U.S. The PS3 will be bundled with the Blu-ray version of Spider-Man 3 and will be available on the 28th of October for $399.99.

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