GamePro has put together a graph showing the NPD data on Nintendo's Gamecube and PlayStation 3 sales for their first 10 months after launch. The chart shows how in North America the PS3 sold 1.7 million units in its 10 months since launch compared to the GameCube's 2.2 million. Those that have already sent their rage into overdrive see the implication of this graph as the PS3 will "fail" like the Gamecube. Last week it was a 3DO comparison, this week it's the Gamecube. Although one can easily argue that the PS3 is neither.
Sure the PS3 started rocky, lost assumed exclusives left and right, and Sony can't seem to craft a solid message to save its life. But the PlayStation is still a strong brand that should be able to rectify itself with a competitive price adjustment and some solid titles creating a base for the gaming console. Hopefully Sony can get that line on the graph to start moving up again. They're in no rush, they've got ten years.
[Via PS3 Fanboy]
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Posted: Oct 3rd 2007 4:50PM Crono141 said
Those charts are aligned launches. Which means that if the consoles had launched on the same day of the same year, thats how the sales would compare.
But since they DIDN"T launch on the same day of the same year, NPD wouldn't show PS3 outselling 360 in the same month, because that didn't happen.
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But since they DIDN"T launch on the same day of the same year, NPD wouldn't show PS3 outselling 360 in the same month, because that didn't happen.
Posted: Oct 3rd 2007 4:30PM horngreen said
Well nintendo was a strong brand when the Cube released so what's your point? The Cube still kind of tanked as will the PS3. You can say "just wait until HOME and Killzone 2!" until you're blue in the face but I think it is too little too late. Name a console that has floundered like this and come back? Maybe Sony will learn from this and the PS4 will do well, like the Wii or maybe Sony will continue the GET ANOTHER JOB TO AFFORD it arrogance they have shown since the PS2 days. Looks like people didn't want to get a third job after all eh Sony? I could afford one if I wanted it but I just don't see the point right now. 5 or 6 hundred dollars to watch Blu Ray films those of which are released all seem targeted to 14 year old boys? Motorstorm looks fun but what else? Cripes man it's coming up on a year and they keep saying wait until spring 08!
Posted: Oct 3rd 2007 4:32PM LaughingTarget said
I really do hope the PS3 is Sony's N64. There is a damned good reason, too. Nintendo got served a whole truckload of humble pie on the N64. Nintendo then, sorta (they still have some backwards third party relations), got their truck straight and put out the Gamecube. Next, the Wii shows up, which has leagues more innovation than the other two combined (not saying much as all the Wii did was give us a good motion control system and the competition didn't do anything more than increase the resolution).
Maybe the PS3 will teach Sony that we (and by we, everyone minus the 3 million or so folks that bought the thing) aren't interested in bleeding edge technology for a premium price. We have PCs for that. Don't give me the PS3 is cheaper, most people have to buy a PC anyway and for an extra $500 above the base price can put together something that trashes the PS3 without pity or remorse. Besides, bleeding edge isn't too impressive three months later anyway.
Console gamer want something inexpensive that plays games. The PS2 wasn't a smash success becuase of the DVD player, it was a smash success becuase it played games, lots of them.
Sony can't sit on the PS3 forever. The name is already tarnished with consumers and developers alike. A price drop to a bargain bin $99 didn't save the Gamecube, which, like the PS3, was vastly superior to the #1 market leader (sans smaller disk medium, but the PS1 proved that gamers don't care about switching disks). With sales numbers like these, developers aren't going to take a chance to fire off new projects in hopes they'll sell systems.
I say let Sony take a huge bath on the PS3 and fail miserably. Maybe then they'll figure it all out and give us a good product for $250 with some real innovation, not just extra pixels, next time around.
Maybe the PS3 will teach Sony that we (and by we, everyone minus the 3 million or so folks that bought the thing) aren't interested in bleeding edge technology for a premium price. We have PCs for that. Don't give me the PS3 is cheaper, most people have to buy a PC anyway and for an extra $500 above the base price can put together something that trashes the PS3 without pity or remorse. Besides, bleeding edge isn't too impressive three months later anyway.
Console gamer want something inexpensive that plays games. The PS2 wasn't a smash success becuase of the DVD player, it was a smash success becuase it played games, lots of them.
Sony can't sit on the PS3 forever. The name is already tarnished with consumers and developers alike. A price drop to a bargain bin $99 didn't save the Gamecube, which, like the PS3, was vastly superior to the #1 market leader (sans smaller disk medium, but the PS1 proved that gamers don't care about switching disks). With sales numbers like these, developers aren't going to take a chance to fire off new projects in hopes they'll sell systems.
I say let Sony take a huge bath on the PS3 and fail miserably. Maybe then they'll figure it all out and give us a good product for $250 with some real innovation, not just extra pixels, next time around.
Posted: Oct 3rd 2007 4:46PM fnm said
Of course the PS3 needs games,duh. You say the next Sony console needs innovation...so the next Sony console will be a Wii to the nth degree? I just find it hard to picture the next console to be innovative,Nintendo preety much stole the thunder,unless,you know,they go the way of "graphics,graphics,graphics".
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Posted: Oct 4th 2007 8:32AM Slaziman said
The new consoles only increased the resolution? How about an actual online system, friend lists, achievements, XBLA, XBLM, PSN, etc.? And they didn't just increase the resolution, the graphics are a lot better even on 480i than they are on the Wii.
A good motion control system? It's very very primitive, the only thing working like it should is the pointer and that even that has little niggles. The accelerometers are unresponsive a lot of the time, and 1:1 movement recognition is a pipe dream on the Wii (and I base this off personal experience and reviews).
For example, would a game like Halo 3 been possible on the Wii if the graphics were downgraded to Halo 2 quality? I don't think so. Saved movies on the Wii? hahahaha
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A good motion control system? It's very very primitive, the only thing working like it should is the pointer and that even that has little niggles. The accelerometers are unresponsive a lot of the time, and 1:1 movement recognition is a pipe dream on the Wii (and I base this off personal experience and reviews).
For example, would a game like Halo 3 been possible on the Wii if the graphics were downgraded to Halo 2 quality? I don't think so. Saved movies on the Wii? hahahaha
Posted: Oct 3rd 2007 4:57PM (Unverified) said
Theres always room for innovation. A few years ago if you said that the next nintendo would be motion controlled, you would have been ridiculed. And, back in the super nes days, the idea of games on disk was laughed at. Now its standard.
Posted: Oct 3rd 2007 5:01PM fnm said
I would buy a PS3,especially since a $399 price drop might be upon us,and Heavenly Sword,I dont care if its a GOW ripoff,it does a good job at keeping me waiting for GOW3. Plus in hi-def!
The Gamecube had great games,and it ran better than the PS2 ports(eg RE4),but the PS2's library of games was the killer.
I would buy a 360 when there's a new Crimson Skies. God,I love that fucking game(the original PC version was better than the Xbox one,too arcadey even though it did a good job storywise).
Now if you'll excuse me I have to exterminate some mind-control zombies.
The Gamecube had great games,and it ran better than the PS2 ports(eg RE4),but the PS2's library of games was the killer.
I would buy a 360 when there's a new Crimson Skies. God,I love that fucking game(the original PC version was better than the Xbox one,too arcadey even though it did a good job storywise).
Now if you'll excuse me I have to exterminate some mind-control zombies.
Posted: Oct 3rd 2007 5:15PM (Unverified) said
Don't forget that Nintendo made profit on every GC sold. Sony is losing hundreds on ever PS3 sold.
Posted: Oct 3rd 2007 5:28PM Korova Pamplona said
"But the PlayStation is still a strong brand"
So was Nintendo
Man, I feel sorry for PS3. It really is a great piece of equipment with tons of potential. But Sony keeps kicking it hard in the nuts every time it tries to get up. Its just sad and rediculous.
So was Nintendo
Man, I feel sorry for PS3. It really is a great piece of equipment with tons of potential. But Sony keeps kicking it hard in the nuts every time it tries to get up. Its just sad and rediculous.
Posted: Oct 3rd 2007 5:41PM In A World said
How awesome would a purple PS3 with a handle be? I'd actually buy it then!
Posted: Oct 3rd 2007 8:30PM (Unverified) said
Someone should compare this with the Dreamcast sales...
Posted: Oct 3rd 2007 9:00PM (Unverified) said
http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php
Click that link. You can pick any 3 systems and align their launch dates to compare first month or first year sales or whatever you want. Or you can leave their launch dates alone and watch the lines as they cross each other hither and thither!
I hear all the rage is aligning the launch dates of Wii, DS, and PS2.
Click that link. You can pick any 3 systems and align their launch dates to compare first month or first year sales or whatever you want. Or you can leave their launch dates alone and watch the lines as they cross each other hither and thither!
I hear all the rage is aligning the launch dates of Wii, DS, and PS2.
Posted: Oct 3rd 2007 9:17PM (Unverified) said
Well, the Gamecube was $199 when it debuted... I know because I bought one @ Midnight on launch day :-) I hardly think it is a fair comparison to a $499 - $599 PS3. The 3DO was expensive, but it didn't have the strong branding and recognition that the Playstation brand enjoys. So once again, not really a great comparison.
Posted: Oct 3rd 2007 9:27PM MLC said
This truly retarted......
The PS3 will not fail! It has to get better a price point and advertise the damn machine. I mean, explain what it does and not totally relying on word-of-mouf. When I tell people that it has bluetooth or a web-browser, people go crazy. The price has to be right or the average consumer wont buy it. Im a tech-nerd so I knew what I was getting to buy purchasing a PS3 cause I knew it would do a lot than gaming.
Honestly, if you're gonna compare PS3 to GC than people should compare the 360 to the DreamCast. Which means it will fail inevitably. I dont care about how many consoles the 360 has sold, most of the sales are replacements. Yeah, PS2 systems had defects but it wasn't 33% of them. The Dreamcast released a whole year before the PS2 and the Dreamcast bombed after that.
Console wars are won in the long run or did you guys forget that? The PS3 has the brightest poteinal of any console to actually win this gen.
The 360 will not win anything, they are only successful, YEAH I SAID IT, successful in US. Japan is a big gaming territory. It hasnt even sold a million systems there. The failure rate is horrible and probably more than the PS1 and PS2 put together. Yeah, they finally released the new "stable" consoles, supposedly but nobody cares because the "better" systems are those FUGLY halo 360s. Also, the 360 has YET to make M$ any money even w/ their baby Halo3 coming out.
The PS3 will not fail! It has to get better a price point and advertise the damn machine. I mean, explain what it does and not totally relying on word-of-mouf. When I tell people that it has bluetooth or a web-browser, people go crazy. The price has to be right or the average consumer wont buy it. Im a tech-nerd so I knew what I was getting to buy purchasing a PS3 cause I knew it would do a lot than gaming.
Honestly, if you're gonna compare PS3 to GC than people should compare the 360 to the DreamCast. Which means it will fail inevitably. I dont care about how many consoles the 360 has sold, most of the sales are replacements. Yeah, PS2 systems had defects but it wasn't 33% of them. The Dreamcast released a whole year before the PS2 and the Dreamcast bombed after that.
Console wars are won in the long run or did you guys forget that? The PS3 has the brightest poteinal of any console to actually win this gen.
The 360 will not win anything, they are only successful, YEAH I SAID IT, successful in US. Japan is a big gaming territory. It hasnt even sold a million systems there. The failure rate is horrible and probably more than the PS1 and PS2 put together. Yeah, they finally released the new "stable" consoles, supposedly but nobody cares because the "better" systems are those FUGLY halo 360s. Also, the 360 has YET to make M$ any money even w/ their baby Halo3 coming out.
Posted: Oct 4th 2007 8:40AM Slaziman said
LOL your post is so full of made up bullshit (as is the one above), I won't even bother pointing out all the logical fallacies.
One thing though, people go crazy when you tell them the PS3 has bluetooth? Bluetooth is just a wireless protocol, bigfuckingwup, the only advantage is you can use your existing bluetooth headset (and keyboard + mouse I think?), of course at the cost of your IR universal remote.
In short, why do people make such a big deal about bluetooth? it's nothing special
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One thing though, people go crazy when you tell them the PS3 has bluetooth? Bluetooth is just a wireless protocol, bigfuckingwup, the only advantage is you can use your existing bluetooth headset (and keyboard + mouse I think?), of course at the cost of your IR universal remote.
In short, why do people make such a big deal about bluetooth? it's nothing special
Posted: Oct 5th 2007 2:53AM (Unverified) said
Sorry dude, the console war (between the 360 and ps3) is over. Halo did it. Console sales soared in Sept and will continue to this Holiday. 900,000 people online tonight playing Halo 3, are you freakin kinnding me? That is a ridiculous number. Sony has nothing remotely touching that this Holiday. Their best exclusive releases are aimed at young teens (Ratchet/Uncharted) who don't have that kind of disposable income. Japan is no longer the primary games market for consoles, the US revenue is much, much greater - hence games like Dead Rising and Lost Planet from Capcom.
The Dreamcast is an uniformed comparison as well - Sega had completely lost consumer confidence here and overseas and were effectively pushed out by Sony who then had no competition - the GC was coming off a terrible console in the N64 and MS was new to the game. What they didn't anticipate this gen was legitimate competition from two very determined companies and consumers have spoken with their wallets and developers have spoken with their focus.
The ps3 is no 3do or cd-i, but they have lost that market share beyond a doubt. No compelling exclusives in their second Holiday season is really bad, and all the multiplatform games are better on the 360 because of Live, gamerscore and achievements. Losing Unreal didn't help either.
I'm in the industry dude, at the retail level, and trust me - the damn things just sit there and fuck up my P&L report. The Wii is the more popular choice and the 360 is the better one.
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The Dreamcast is an uniformed comparison as well - Sega had completely lost consumer confidence here and overseas and were effectively pushed out by Sony who then had no competition - the GC was coming off a terrible console in the N64 and MS was new to the game. What they didn't anticipate this gen was legitimate competition from two very determined companies and consumers have spoken with their wallets and developers have spoken with their focus.
The ps3 is no 3do or cd-i, but they have lost that market share beyond a doubt. No compelling exclusives in their second Holiday season is really bad, and all the multiplatform games are better on the 360 because of Live, gamerscore and achievements. Losing Unreal didn't help either.
I'm in the industry dude, at the retail level, and trust me - the damn things just sit there and fuck up my P&L report. The Wii is the more popular choice and the 360 is the better one.
Posted: Oct 3rd 2007 10:38PM MLC said
This truly nonsense!!!
The PS3 will not fail! It has to get better a price point and be advertise. I mean, explain what it does and not totally relying on word-of-mouf. It does a lot of things that people dont know whether they own 1 or not. The price has to be right or any consumer wont buy it though. Im a tech-nerd so I knew what I was getting myself into when I bought my PS3 cause I knew it would do a lot more than gaming.
Console wars are won in the long run or did you guys forget that? The PS3 has the brightest poteinal of any console to actually win this gen.
If the PS3 is the GameCube of this gen than The 360 is the Dreamcast then. The 360 wont defeat anybody. Their whole damn install base is the US. Japan and PAL are big gaming territories. It hasnt even sold a million systems in Japan. Also, The failure rate is horrible and probably more than the PS1 and PS2 combined. 33%? I would expect better products from company that is owned by the richest man in the world!!! Yeah, they finally released the new "stable" consoles, supposedly, but nobody cares because the "better" systems are those FUGLY halo 360s which nobody are buying. Also, the 360 has YET to make M$ any money even w/ their baby Halo3 coming out. And now since HALO is over and Bungie/Bizzare is leaving, what does the 360 have to offer in the future? NG2 and those FF rip-offs? HA! They even had to buy the rights to NG2 to keep it an exclusive. If Sony did that w/ MGS, GTA, or FF, people would of been irate. The ONLY thing the 360 is doing to M$ is making them loose a-hell-of-alot of $. Once stockholders realize that it wont make any $ (just like XBOX 1), M$ will be forced to close to XBOX division. If Bill Gates, wont put any of his own $ to make better consoles what makes you think he will to the entire XBOX divison?
The Wii isnt competition...
At $250 a pop, I hope people are buying them! How much can they actually do w/ the wii remote and etc? Eventually, there wont be anymore ways to be innovating and it WILL get old. After WiiFit, they will having nothing else. The Wii is basiclly how the Ipod was a couple years ago, A FAD! Everybody had to have 1 but when people start using their cellphones as music players, they're glory came to an end. Oh yeah, Apple did release Iphone though, ironic isn't?
Bottom-Line, the PS3 has a lot offer but the price has to be right and appeal to everybody in some way. Whether its being a media-hub or console. Neither of its competitors have anything worth naming next year and so 2008 is for Sony to conquer. With DualShock 3 and a lot of games coming, only Sony can hurt themselves in the long run. W/ the 360's power already being tapped and the Wii not looking any better than it does now, do all of you really wanna be naive and truly think the PS3 wont be any better than it is NOW? It hasnt been out a whole year in US and Japan and barely 7 months in PAL! People are only bashing the PS3 because people dont want Sony to win like they have before but the "loosing" will all change sooner or later. There are things the PS3 can do like 360 or Wii but there are things that the 360 or Wii can't and wont be able to do as the PS3! Look, I dont know successful Blu-Ray will be and I damn sure dont know about HOME being a "system seller" but I know Sony isnt going to let the PS3 go to waste. So get use to the PS3 being around 1 way or another. In the future, when you haters are stuck w/ what you are already experiencing now, I'll be w/ my PS3 year after year watching and, DEFINITLY, PLAYING w/its potenital!
The PS3 will not fail! It has to get better a price point and be advertise. I mean, explain what it does and not totally relying on word-of-mouf. It does a lot of things that people dont know whether they own 1 or not. The price has to be right or any consumer wont buy it though. Im a tech-nerd so I knew what I was getting myself into when I bought my PS3 cause I knew it would do a lot more than gaming.
Console wars are won in the long run or did you guys forget that? The PS3 has the brightest poteinal of any console to actually win this gen.
If the PS3 is the GameCube of this gen than The 360 is the Dreamcast then. The 360 wont defeat anybody. Their whole damn install base is the US. Japan and PAL are big gaming territories. It hasnt even sold a million systems in Japan. Also, The failure rate is horrible and probably more than the PS1 and PS2 combined. 33%? I would expect better products from company that is owned by the richest man in the world!!! Yeah, they finally released the new "stable" consoles, supposedly, but nobody cares because the "better" systems are those FUGLY halo 360s which nobody are buying. Also, the 360 has YET to make M$ any money even w/ their baby Halo3 coming out. And now since HALO is over and Bungie/Bizzare is leaving, what does the 360 have to offer in the future? NG2 and those FF rip-offs? HA! They even had to buy the rights to NG2 to keep it an exclusive. If Sony did that w/ MGS, GTA, or FF, people would of been irate. The ONLY thing the 360 is doing to M$ is making them loose a-hell-of-alot of $. Once stockholders realize that it wont make any $ (just like XBOX 1), M$ will be forced to close to XBOX division. If Bill Gates, wont put any of his own $ to make better consoles what makes you think he will to the entire XBOX divison?
The Wii isnt competition...
At $250 a pop, I hope people are buying them! How much can they actually do w/ the wii remote and etc? Eventually, there wont be anymore ways to be innovating and it WILL get old. After WiiFit, they will having nothing else. The Wii is basiclly how the Ipod was a couple years ago, A FAD! Everybody had to have 1 but when people start using their cellphones as music players, they're glory came to an end. Oh yeah, Apple did release Iphone though, ironic isn't?
Bottom-Line, the PS3 has a lot offer but the price has to be right and appeal to everybody in some way. Whether its being a media-hub or console. Neither of its competitors have anything worth naming next year and so 2008 is for Sony to conquer. With DualShock 3 and a lot of games coming, only Sony can hurt themselves in the long run. W/ the 360's power already being tapped and the Wii not looking any better than it does now, do all of you really wanna be naive and truly think the PS3 wont be any better than it is NOW? It hasnt been out a whole year in US and Japan and barely 7 months in PAL! People are only bashing the PS3 because people dont want Sony to win like they have before but the "loosing" will all change sooner or later. There are things the PS3 can do like 360 or Wii but there are things that the 360 or Wii can't and wont be able to do as the PS3! Look, I dont know successful Blu-Ray will be and I damn sure dont know about HOME being a "system seller" but I know Sony isnt going to let the PS3 go to waste. So get use to the PS3 being around 1 way or another. In the future, when you haters are stuck w/ what you are already experiencing now, I'll be w/ my PS3 year after year watching and, DEFINITLY, PLAYING w/its potenital!
Posted: Oct 5th 2007 2:23PM (Unverified) said
Here's some 360 stuff for next year genius:
Unreal 3
Fracture
Prototype
Star Wars: Force Unleashed
Alone In The Dark
Silent Hill V
Resident Evil 5
Halo Wars
Gears of War 2 (unannounced, but MS previously said they would alternate Halo and Gears)
Dark Sector
MGS 4 (also unannounced as of yet, but no, it was not claimed an exclusive at E3 - Sony claimed it was. The American Konami exec said that regarding 'other consoles' they would 'take steps' if they felt it was appropriate. Yeah, I think a revenue stream of 11 million + consoles is appropriate. The word is the port is being handled by a seperate team and will hit the 360 and PC approx. 5 months after the PS3 (Fall '08)
Grand Theft Auto 4
DMC 4 (yes it was pushed back for both consoles)
World In Conflict
Alan Wake
Fable 2
Soul Calibur 4
Too Human
That's just a small portion. Yeah, next year looks really lame for the 360. Not a thing to play.
It's over dude. Trade in that paperweight and get yourself a system that doesn't suck.
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Unreal 3
Fracture
Prototype
Star Wars: Force Unleashed
Alone In The Dark
Silent Hill V
Resident Evil 5
Halo Wars
Gears of War 2 (unannounced, but MS previously said they would alternate Halo and Gears)
Dark Sector
MGS 4 (also unannounced as of yet, but no, it was not claimed an exclusive at E3 - Sony claimed it was. The American Konami exec said that regarding 'other consoles' they would 'take steps' if they felt it was appropriate. Yeah, I think a revenue stream of 11 million + consoles is appropriate. The word is the port is being handled by a seperate team and will hit the 360 and PC approx. 5 months after the PS3 (Fall '08)
Grand Theft Auto 4
DMC 4 (yes it was pushed back for both consoles)
World In Conflict
Alan Wake
Fable 2
Soul Calibur 4
Too Human
That's just a small portion. Yeah, next year looks really lame for the 360. Not a thing to play.
It's over dude. Trade in that paperweight and get yourself a system that doesn't suck.
Posted: Oct 5th 2007 2:30PM (Unverified) said
Oh, and Ninja Gaiden 2. You play the prettied up port of a game I played 3 years ago, and I'll play the real sequel exclusively on my 360.
And if you think 11 million Wiis sold constitutes a fad you are dumber than you sound.
PS3 owners now have to wait for a 3rd Holiday season to see the 'potential' realized on the system, while the 360 is positively drowning in great content. The PS3 was overengineered and overpriced without a shred of common market sense. Hence a distant 3rd in the console war.
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And if you think 11 million Wiis sold constitutes a fad you are dumber than you sound.
PS3 owners now have to wait for a 3rd Holiday season to see the 'potential' realized on the system, while the 360 is positively drowning in great content. The PS3 was overengineered and overpriced without a shred of common market sense. Hence a distant 3rd in the console war.
Posted: Oct 5th 2007 5:29PM MLC said
Eric....
Most of your games you just listed are releasing on both consoles, idoit! Live has been out since 02 so I hope its good by now. M$ is a software company. There should be immediate success w/ anything involving internet. PSN has already met half of the total # of users on Live and PSN hasnt been out a year yet. Yeah, PSN isn't Live but Live wasnt great from jump either!!!
You can really stop talking about MGS4. Let it go! You just gotta have all the PS3's games but when possibily is mention of a 360 game going multiplatform, you bitch and moan. Most of us are adults, rumor-passing should of stopped when we graduated High School. Post a link that actually states the MGS4 is going to 360 that is from a actual source such as a named developer, named konami employee, or even Kojima himself and I'll man up and give you an apology otherwise SHUT THE HELL UP! Matter of fact, Peter Moore himself said that MGS4 is NOT coming to 360. Google it!
Japan is STILL an important gaming base. Just because M$ cant sell in Japan doesnt mean its not important. The US is M$'s only cruth. That doesnt sound like a victory. If they were doing as poorly in the US as Japan and PAL, would we still have this debate? You cant appeal to 1 territory just cause you're company is established there. Thats funny you mentioned DR and LP...Are you gonna whine if the sequels become multiplatorm? Most likley!!!
I try not say anything to anybody cause I sale all systems. I have like's and dislike's for all systems, including my PS3. Nobody was giving M$ this much bashing as SONY. Even when their systems breaking like they ARE. 360 didnt have anything when it lauched and still didnt have anything AAA in until Gears which release a year later. All consoles have slumps in the first year or 2. Bash everything and not just the stuff you dont like cause its petty and waste of time. Im done with this. Say what you want, i'm tired! PEACE!
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Most of your games you just listed are releasing on both consoles, idoit! Live has been out since 02 so I hope its good by now. M$ is a software company. There should be immediate success w/ anything involving internet. PSN has already met half of the total # of users on Live and PSN hasnt been out a year yet. Yeah, PSN isn't Live but Live wasnt great from jump either!!!
You can really stop talking about MGS4. Let it go! You just gotta have all the PS3's games but when possibily is mention of a 360 game going multiplatform, you bitch and moan. Most of us are adults, rumor-passing should of stopped when we graduated High School. Post a link that actually states the MGS4 is going to 360 that is from a actual source such as a named developer, named konami employee, or even Kojima himself and I'll man up and give you an apology otherwise SHUT THE HELL UP! Matter of fact, Peter Moore himself said that MGS4 is NOT coming to 360. Google it!
Japan is STILL an important gaming base. Just because M$ cant sell in Japan doesnt mean its not important. The US is M$'s only cruth. That doesnt sound like a victory. If they were doing as poorly in the US as Japan and PAL, would we still have this debate? You cant appeal to 1 territory just cause you're company is established there. Thats funny you mentioned DR and LP...Are you gonna whine if the sequels become multiplatorm? Most likley!!!
I try not say anything to anybody cause I sale all systems. I have like's and dislike's for all systems, including my PS3. Nobody was giving M$ this much bashing as SONY. Even when their systems breaking like they ARE. 360 didnt have anything when it lauched and still didnt have anything AAA in until Gears which release a year later. All consoles have slumps in the first year or 2. Bash everything and not just the stuff you dont like cause its petty and waste of time. Im done with this. Say what you want, i'm tired! PEACE!
Posted: Oct 4th 2007 1:42AM mocax said
PS3 sells so badly because pirates are unable to copy their games easily. The new media doesn't help. Same case with Gamecube and their mini discs.
Wii and Xbox360 games are readily pirated, same with PS1 and PS2, look at where they are now. Raking in sales.
Wii and Xbox360 games are readily pirated, same with PS1 and PS2, look at where they are now. Raking in sales.
Posted: Oct 4th 2007 5:12PM (Unverified) said
@myke
Up in the sky...it's the bat symbol...run back to your cave troll!!
Up in the sky...it's the bat symbol...run back to your cave troll!!
Posted: Oct 4th 2007 5:14PM (Unverified) said
Uhhh....I guess that $300 million in one week on Halo 3 means the 360 is doomed...doomed I say.
You are a fucking Twat Myke. Please go fold@home and stay of the INTERNETS.
You are a fucking Twat Myke. Please go fold@home and stay of the INTERNETS.
Posted: Oct 5th 2007 4:23PM MLC said
You're a dumbass...
No matter how well Halo sold, they M$ still arent making any $. The 360 has been out almost 2 years and they just release the biggest game in years and they still cant break even and I'm a twat? Right......
Oh yeah, I'd rather have folding home running than rather play Halo 3's campaign.
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No matter how well Halo sold, they M$ still arent making any $. The 360 has been out almost 2 years and they just release the biggest game in years and they still cant break even and I'm a twat? Right......
Oh yeah, I'd rather have folding home running than rather play Halo 3's campaign.
Posted: Oct 5th 2007 6:50PM (Unverified) said
Myke is an angry elf.
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/10/konami-exec-says-metal-gear-solid-may-go-to-other-consoles/
There's your link to the Konami exec talking about other platforms. I remember Sheppy absolutely refusing to believe DMC4 would go but that also happened.
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/05/25/analysts-halo-3-will-finally-make-xbox-division-profitable/
There's the link to the xb360 in the black.
I'm in the industry man and it's my business to know what's going on - not that I know everything or am right all the time. The Ps3 will not outright fail, the brand is too strong, but they started behind and will not be picking up ground this Holiday. That's two years in the hole and MS will not be slowing down. Just deal.
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http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/10/konami-exec-says-metal-gear-solid-may-go-to-other-consoles/
There's your link to the Konami exec talking about other platforms. I remember Sheppy absolutely refusing to believe DMC4 would go but that also happened.
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/05/25/analysts-halo-3-will-finally-make-xbox-division-profitable/
There's the link to the xb360 in the black.
I'm in the industry man and it's my business to know what's going on - not that I know everything or am right all the time. The Ps3 will not outright fail, the brand is too strong, but they started behind and will not be picking up ground this Holiday. That's two years in the hole and MS will not be slowing down. Just deal.
Posted: Oct 7th 2007 1:27PM (Unverified) said
Anyone else thinking the PS3 will sell less than the Gamecube?
Posted: Oct 19th 2007 7:04AM (Unverified) said
Its funny how everyone just loves to take a bash at PS3 whenever they can...
But looking back at when Playstation was owning, there was barely any Playstation fanboys bashing other systems.
The only bashing I remember was when Xbox came in and then Xbox fanboys started claiming Microsoft will win because the Xbox has more power.
But I understand, Nintendo fanboys haven't been able to be proud of much lately so thats why they like to stick it in Sony's face for that moment where they can be proud of themselves.
And Xbots never get to feel the joy of winning so they are always bitter at everybody else trolling everywhere talking trash about every other system and games. Also notice, Xbots always try to side with Nintendo fanboys in hopes of being able to be on the "winning side". But that's just a showcase of their low confidence on their own system.
PS3 fanboys used to defend PS3 when the bashings started escalating, but I guess they're more mature so they understand they gotta stop feeding the flames.
But in the end, all this don't matter. If you guys truly love the systems you own, you wouldn't be on the net 24/7 finding the next chance you can bash on another system.
But looking back at when Playstation was owning, there was barely any Playstation fanboys bashing other systems.
The only bashing I remember was when Xbox came in and then Xbox fanboys started claiming Microsoft will win because the Xbox has more power.
But I understand, Nintendo fanboys haven't been able to be proud of much lately so thats why they like to stick it in Sony's face for that moment where they can be proud of themselves.
And Xbots never get to feel the joy of winning so they are always bitter at everybody else trolling everywhere talking trash about every other system and games. Also notice, Xbots always try to side with Nintendo fanboys in hopes of being able to be on the "winning side". But that's just a showcase of their low confidence on their own system.
PS3 fanboys used to defend PS3 when the bashings started escalating, but I guess they're more mature so they understand they gotta stop feeding the flames.
But in the end, all this don't matter. If you guys truly love the systems you own, you wouldn't be on the net 24/7 finding the next chance you can bash on another system.
Posted: Oct 19th 2007 7:16AM (Unverified) said
I also find it ironic that you guys are calling Myke a troll...
Everybody's making fun of a kid, and then one person stands up for that kid, then everybody calls that person a bully...
Thats some GREAT logic you guys have. *sarcastic*
Ahah, come on, just TRY to make something up to defend why it was correct for you to call Myke a troll.
Its funny how you trolls say whatever you want about other systems. But the moment someone defends that system, he is called a troll.
Such a pitiful existence you trolls lead...
Everybody's making fun of a kid, and then one person stands up for that kid, then everybody calls that person a bully...
Thats some GREAT logic you guys have. *sarcastic*
Ahah, come on, just TRY to make something up to defend why it was correct for you to call Myke a troll.
Its funny how you trolls say whatever you want about other systems. But the moment someone defends that system, he is called a troll.
Such a pitiful existence you trolls lead...
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