NCSoft unveils Carbine, armed with former WoW, Fallout devs
by Ross Miller 
{ Oct 4th 2007 at 5:55PM }
Additionally, former Fallout designer Tim Cain has been tapped to be the programmer director. Carbine is currently working on an unannounced MMO, according to their website. No other details have been revealed, but the team definitely has a powerhouse of employees.
[Via Gamasutra]
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Jonah Falcon @ Oct 4th 2007 6:07PM
Oh, goody. Castoffs.
Forcepath @ Oct 4th 2007 6:19PM
Honestly, why do people even try to kill off WoW by trying to make a "better" MMO? WoW isn't necessarily the best MMO ever, but it has a little more staying power in it, and a rabid fanbase to boot.
I just don't see the point in trying to leech off of an already over saturated market with an MMO.
eldee @ Oct 4th 2007 7:27PM
Yes, sound logic you've got there. Why do people even bother trying to make better games, when people play the crap they're shoveled?
/sarcasm
2kings @ Oct 4th 2007 6:25PM
this could be huuuuuuuge.....
Brett @ Oct 4th 2007 6:27PM
Good for them. With WoW and Fallout devs I can come up with some interesting concepts. Too bad it will be probably 3 years (at least) before we see anything that they do.
blooh (CDF - Ass Ring) @ Oct 4th 2007 6:32PM
3 years is probaly good, there are tons of mmo's coming out nowadays, maybe in 3 years wow will be declining and people will be ready for the next thing
a fallout-inspired mmo sounds cool too
colin @ Oct 4th 2007 7:11PM
carbine? enough with the halo news already!!!
j/k
Evan @ Oct 4th 2007 7:16PM
MMO's are the next WWII game.
Jeff @ Oct 4th 2007 8:15PM
Put them on Tabula Rasa! Quick!
OrganicShadow @ Oct 4th 2007 8:25PM
I pray it's something similar to Tabula Rasa as far as gameplay is concerned. I am so tired of spells-n-swords type of stuff. It's not even just the whoring of pre-established IP's, it's just the whole "we can't think of a different way to do an RPG other than with wizards and spells and swords and crap" type of stuff.
How about some Sci-fi?(not Star Wars, remember, no established IP's) How about some survival horror?(done right, not like RE:O) How about some Battlefield 2 but on a massive scale? Planetside was an awesome concept but the crappy servers and horrible bugs/support ran it into the ground.
Sorry, im just ready for something new. Not the same old crap with a new "skin". TR is freaking awesome, but I think it needs to have more substance. I dunno, I just play it and an hour into a session im like "I could be playing this single player not online...".
Jeff @ Oct 4th 2007 9:17PM
That's how I feel about TR.
Idk, I'm hoping it approves for the final release. It's good, and I'm enjoying it while it's free, but I don't think its the game that will get me into MMOs.
blooh (CDF - Ass Ring) @ Oct 4th 2007 11:52PM
i dunno what TR's play is like, but i know i liked CoV. Though it was essentially spell-based.
Something like Kotor would be cool, but obviously without jedi because everyone would want to be one, and you'd need to deal with lucas. But without jedi powers, kotor was a bit boring. Hmm, I dunno. It's hard to innovate mmo's in one minute :)
but definetely, a huge innovation would be if they could make a mmo where once someone killed an enemy, they stayed dead. No farming, etc. Everything is unique. That's the holy grail of mmos
chispito @ Oct 4th 2007 9:23PM
I'm with Organic on this one.
I'd personally like to see something historically based, like Roman republic/empire, Age of Sail, or a Western.
blooh (CDF - Ass Ring) @ Oct 4th 2007 11:58PM
yeah i've been craving a western mmo for years. you could be an indian, a deputy, a farmer, a bounty hunter, or something else? then you could do whatever you wanted, but if you broke the laws you'd get a bounty posted on you, and other players could go after you, etc
tons of possibilities there
OrganicShadow @ Oct 5th 2007 3:09PM
That would be awesome. Some historical stuff would be cool(please no WW2 for now...). Glad to know it's not just me feeling the stale texture on the breads of MMO land.
ThornedVenom @ Oct 4th 2007 10:38PM
Any gamedev with "WoW" printed on their portfolio gives them instant cred.
Overgauss @ Oct 5th 2007 12:44AM
3d cthulhumud plus mythos ccg/tome game please.
DevGuy @ Oct 5th 2007 9:36AM
A former designer is the "programmer director"? lol, good luck with that
Pimliconite @ Oct 5th 2007 10:21AM
Tim Cain was a designer, programmer, writer, and the project lead for Fallout 1. They won't need luck.
Zsavior @ Oct 5th 2007 1:52PM
Look WOW is no spectacle of amazement. WOW did one thing and one thing only right, it made a game casuals could play in. End of story, wow is lumbering to its death just nobody goes against WOW and reports the problems, the fluctuations in ads, like saying "We have 9million subscriptions." then advertising "We have 8million players".
I have friends that still play the game an MMO really trying to beat WOW could do it easily. The truth is MMOs aren't trying to beat wow they want WOW revenue yes, but they want it on their pretentious, game designing terms. Which is really fine with me cause it is their game, my problem is when they fail people won't say X game was a craptacular garbage fest, they will say WOW is just to strong.
Stop creating MMOs with one mindset make a mixture for Casuals and Hardcores alike, then make content for them both to gain progression and enjoy the world. End of story, end of lesson. You want to make a continually dark dreary bastard of a world, filled with cantankerous gamer elitist see how that goes for you. There is no reason in todays gaming market an MMO has to be solely sword and board or solely sci-fi, they make them that way because they don't let their minds become imaginative enough.
I hope being part of something like WOW and something like Fallout will breed some middle ground. I just hope it doesn't take them failure after failure and 200yrs to do so.