NCSoft unveils Carbine, armed with former WoW, Fallout devs

Oh, goody. Castoffs.

Honestly, why do people even try to kill off WoW by trying to make a "better" MMO? WoW isn't necessarily the best MMO ever, but it has a little more staying power in it, and a rabid fanbase to boot.

I just don't see the point in trying to leech off of an already over saturated market with an MMO.

this could be huuuuuuuge.....

Good for them. With WoW and Fallout devs I can come up with some interesting concepts. Too bad it will be probably 3 years (at least) before we see anything that they do.

carbine? enough with the halo news already!!!

j/k

MMO's are the next WWII game.

Put them on Tabula Rasa! Quick!

I pray it's something similar to Tabula Rasa as far as gameplay is concerned. I am so tired of spells-n-swords type of stuff. It's not even just the whoring of pre-established IP's, it's just the whole "we can't think of a different way to do an RPG other than with wizards and spells and swords and crap" type of stuff.

How about some Sci-fi?(not Star Wars, remember, no established IP's) How about some survival horror?(done right, not like RE:O) How about some Battlefield 2 but on a massive scale? Planetside was an awesome concept but the crappy servers and horrible bugs/support ran it into the ground.

Sorry, im just ready for something new. Not the same old crap with a new "skin". TR is freaking awesome, but I think it needs to have more substance. I dunno, I just play it and an hour into a session im like "I could be playing this single player not online...".

I'm with Organic on this one.

I'd personally like to see something historically based, like Roman republic/empire, Age of Sail, or a Western.

Any gamedev with "WoW" printed on their portfolio gives them instant cred.

3d cthulhumud plus mythos ccg/tome game please.

A former designer is the "programmer director"? lol, good luck with that

Look WOW is no spectacle of amazement. WOW did one thing and one thing only right, it made a game casuals could play in. End of story, wow is lumbering to its death just nobody goes against WOW and reports the problems, the fluctuations in ads, like saying "We have 9million subscriptions." then advertising "We have 8million players".

I have friends that still play the game an MMO really trying to beat WOW could do it easily. The truth is MMOs aren't trying to beat wow they want WOW revenue yes, but they want it on their pretentious, game designing terms. Which is really fine with me cause it is their game, my problem is when they fail people won't say X game was a craptacular garbage fest, they will say WOW is just to strong.

Stop creating MMOs with one mindset make a mixture for Casuals and Hardcores alike, then make content for them both to gain progression and enjoy the world. End of story, end of lesson. You want to make a continually dark dreary bastard of a world, filled with cantankerous gamer elitist see how that goes for you. There is no reason in todays gaming market an MMO has to be solely sword and board or solely sci-fi, they make them that way because they don't let their minds become imaginative enough.

I hope being part of something like WOW and something like Fallout will breed some middle ground. I just hope it doesn't take them failure after failure and 200yrs to do so.