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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 1:07AM Assmar said

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Hey!

It's the Wii version!
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 6:57PM Skor said

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Hey, it is the wii version! I didn't notice the indentation at first.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 1:11AM Fullmetal Salchemist said

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So DragonForce is officially the hardest song in the game?
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 3:04AM DarkTetsuya said

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"Through the Fire and Flames" *by* DragonForce, yes.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 1:13AM spasewalkr said

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thats sick to the point of being superhuman and unnatural
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 2:33PM MrHashbrown said

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Nope...he's asian.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 1:15AM (Unverified) said

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woo woo. he doesnt even seem that pumped. i woulda fist pumped after all tha twork.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 1:35AM (Unverified) said

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the "commentary" was annoying

but try 5 starring that song, that'll take more than 4 tries
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 1:55AM (Unverified) said

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The guitars are still too small. I'm not a big guy but I get all cramped up playing Guitar Hero II on the Xplorer. I'm hoping the Rock Band guitar (which is quite a bit larger) ends up being compatible with GH II and III.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 10:50AM Dragod said

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It is. ^.^

There was a small update that allowed the wireless controllers to connect to the console. But it was confirmed a while ago that it would be compatible :)
I'm waiting for my Les Paul to beat Jordan, my Xplorer's star power sucks and because of it I can't get star power when I need it.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 2:05AM (Unverified) said

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Just more proof that Asians are superhuman when playing music games.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 2:39PM MrHashbrown said

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The asians can pwn at their own asian games, but they don't have to make US feel like crap by pwning at American games.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2007 2:14AM (Unverified) said

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'cept I'm Asian and I suck. :)

Maybe I'm not a real Asian. OR I JUST DON'T PLAY ENOUGH TO KILL MYSELF!
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 2:14AM (Unverified) said

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ahh....want to play and fail so bad... :(
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 3:40AM Nuisance said

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... how... how is that even possible? Gah... this puts my inability to beat ANY GH2 songs on hard into a whole new level of mediocrity.

HOW!? Dammit, the robots from the future aren't designed like Arnold "Governator" Schwarzenegger, but rather they were designed as an inconspicuous Asian person.

Either that, or his reaction time was blessed by the god Emululu, who resembles a bowl of pescetti... spaghetti...
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 4:13AM whymog said

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The note chart is very similar to a homebrew version I have on PS2...and it's not very hard. Way easier than Jordan Expert, anyway.

It'll mostly come down to Star Power placement, I guess.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 4:15AM whymog said

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To avoid criticism:

YES, I spend way too much time on Guitar Hero. I've five-starred everything.

NO, this isn't an easy song by any stretch of the imagination. It just isn't a proper successor to Jordan.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 4:25AM DeadPlasmaCell said

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Beating it with Star Power = meh

Beating it without Star Power = Winnar

/can do neither x(
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 5:33AM cheesebanana said

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This is a good enough successor to jordan for me in 1 way.

This is a good song :P

Hehe i love dragonforce like my own child and i cant wait to shred this one up, even if it is a little easier than jordan.

And yah i've played a few custom charts for this song on the PS2 version but none of them have been nearly close enough to the quality of this one.

Anyway...

BRING ON GUITAR HERO!

(On another note, anybody know if it will be region free?)
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 4:04PM whymog said

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The guitars will likely be region-free, but how many game discs are ever made region-free? I wouldn't hold my breath.

Dragonforce is great for a laugh, but they aren't actually a serious metal band. I mean, "Through the Fire and the Flames"? Does nobody see the redundancy in that title?

That said, the song is ridiculously fun to play. :)
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 6:40AM (Unverified) said

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the song wasn't designed to be unbeatable, it was designed to be unperfectable. Nobody will likely ever get 100% on it on expert, just like jordan.

The song is kind of lame IMO. It's technically impressive but as a song it's hokey neo metal...
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 8:43AM LaughingTarget said

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Well, I figure if Dragonforce can pull it off without screwing up, with REAL guitars at that (which is significantly harder than the Guitar Hero controller), for a whole 7 and a half minutes or so, then someone will come along and get a perfect on Guitar Hero. It'll take some time, but it will happen.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 5:10PM (Unverified) said

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You also have to remember that a real guitar is far more forgiving when it comes to hitting the wrong note. You can play off a wrong note and 99% of listeners won't even notice. Especially if the song is as fast as this one.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 9:09AM LaughingTarget said

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Depends on the distortion levels. High level of distortion, like DF uses, can actually amplify a screw-up to no ends.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 11:05AM (Unverified) said

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Except that Dragonforce can't; look it up, there live shows are appauling.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 10:04AM (Unverified) said

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Wait, wait, wait. Something's terribly wrong with this video.

The guy playing doesn't have a beautiful flowing mane of golden hair, or incredibly tight leather pants, or chainmail, or even a pair of gauntlets.

The first civilian to conquer Through Fire and Flames is *painfully* un-metal.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 10:37AM (Unverified) said

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this song's difficulty is rather exaggerated
i barely make it through Jordan in gh2

*shudder* there goes my hand
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 11:26AM (Unverified) said

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I still think it looks easier than a lot of people are hyping it to be. but I'll probably get owned my first 15 times too
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 12:11PM (Unverified) said

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Am I the only unimpressed by this video?

It looks entirely beatable, unlike Jordan.

Maybe if he had 5'd it, or I could see the multiplier in the video....... but it's way easier to beat a song than 5* it.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 1:32PM Antibot said

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For those saying it's not as difficult as Jordan, it should be noted that this video is only of the last couple minutes of the song, after the more difficult parts.

Here is the full song (See: 3:21):
http://youtube.com/watch?v=q3M2X4ZAH_w

I haven't seen the full version of the track in the game, so I can't say for sure if it's harder. But Jordan is really only hard during one part, for a couple minutes. "Through the Fire and Flames" seems to have longer sections of difficult notes.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 1:05PM (Unverified) said

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This song disgusts me. Not due to the difficulty, because as some have said, it's not as bad as Jordan, but due to the song itself. It sucks. It's a terrible excuse for metal.

People, you have to remember that GH3 has a bigger window of opportunity to hit the notes, so hammer ons and pull offs will be even easier this time around, which will make this song definitely not as challenging as Jordan.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 4:11PM whymog said

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Although this thread isn't for discussing musical tastes, I'll agree. Dragonforce is almost entirely without merit musically. Doesn't mean I haven't gotten a laugh from them before.

Buckethead, on the other hand, is actually pretty cool.

The timing window change is going to make these songs that are filled with HOPOs so much easier to survive. I hope it doesn't kill the challenge entirely.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 2:08PM (Unverified) said

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Did anyone happen to notice, on 'My Name Is Earl', this past Thursday, Craig T. Nelson, who was the warden of the jail Earl is in, was "playing" Guitar Hero 3??
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Posted: Oct 8th 2007 11:34AM (Unverified) said

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Didn't the people who run scorehero.com already beat this song? Then again, the people on that site are inhuman.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2007 5:35PM (Unverified) said

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hmmm....give credit where credit is due?

didn't one of the scorehero guys beat this when they got the GH3 tour a few months ago?

--j
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Posted: Oct 7th 2007 10:02AM dmbrandon said

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That did not impress me at all.

The custom ps2 charts for songs like: Guitars Suck, Fury of the Storm, and Rude Mood are all WAY more difficult than that was.

Don't get me wrong, the guy is good, and I am in no way skilled at GH whatsoever... It's just, a few people who frequent a local gamecrazy have more than proved their skill, to the point that the site of these new songs aren't even wanted.

It's like Stepmania vs DDR. The quality may be off, but it still takes a lot more skill.
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