Killzone 2 dev: Blu-ray is a necessity

I actually played all the way through Killzone on one week, it was a boring week, but it was still good enough to keep me entertained. Didn't think it was a bad game personally.

But that was ages ago.

To me, adding more disk space is making the developers more lazy. I always believe that when you are limited, like George Lucas was with the OT, you tend to be more creative as you try to get past such limitations. When you are free to do whatever you want, like in the Prequels, you fuck up.

What I mean is this. Suppose 50 Cent Bulletproof was going to be made for PS3. With Blu Ray they can put in high-rez HD uncompressed textures, add loads of geometry and lighting, as well as make over 150 levels the size of Manhattan.

Guess what, they game will still fail. Why? Its 50 Cent Bulletproof. The game is way too boring, pointless and buggy to be played even on the N64. What you should do is pay attention to the design and see if gamers find your game fun, than worry about how much you can stuff into it.

I feel the same way about the whole "next gen HD" thing too. Tell me, what is the difference between a picture of a Turd on a SD TV and a TV at 1080p? NOTHING! ITS A TURD! NOBODY WANT TO WATCH A TURD NO MATTER WHAT RESOLUTION IT IS!

Or look at it this way, no amount of HD High-Rezness can fix the monstrosity that Terminator 3 was.

Its starting too look like if your making a game for sony you have too throw in a tidbit about blu-ray or even siraxxis somewhere in a press release like it is in a contract....No one questions it not being needed for the game since it is a ps3 exclusive. What is questioned is the fact that it is needed for other games as we speak.

I really don't doubt it.

Someone should tell him that RAM is a necessity too.

Seriously, if Phony is going to survive they need to stop having developers flapping there gums about the godliness of the PS3 and finally make games.

Hell all sony seems to do is say "my schwarts is bigger than yours".

Seriously, we might as well start calling the PS3 the PoS- Piece of shit.

Blu-ray is a necessity.

Now? No.
In the future? Maybe.

One would think that since they can use a single grey pixel as every texture in their game that they wouldn't have any trouble fitting on a DVD.

I thought we were past this nonsense Sony.

Looks good but I bet the barely compress it at all and include more language tracks than just English and Japanese where a lot of space will be used up other than the graphics. I bet this game will end up either almost totally uncompressed or with a bunch of extra language tracks that most people won't use outside of their own language. Also the last game to look this good was Gears and well....look at it's color pallete as well as the vividness of it. I'm pretty sure this could just fit on the 360's DVD format and be just as good with the proper compression and possibly with only one audio set per region.(meaning Engish in US/UK, German in Germany, Japnesee in Japan etc.)

I doesn't matter what you put this on. It will never be Halo. You can argue it all you want. The word "Killzone" doesn't have the marketing power of "Halo". Sony would be wise to just stop trying to recreate and overtake Halo. It will NEVER happen.

I am not speaking from a fanboy point of view either. Case in point, not even Mario Galaxy will be able to pull the kind of brand power and cash intake that Halo 3 has so far, and will continue to do. I just don't understand this infatuation by Sony of creating "the next Halo" it's a lost cause. All they will ever be able to create is game that may get good reviews, sell decently, but will ALWAYS be labeled as "Sony's attempt to compete with Halo" because, in the end, it WILL NOT, under ANY circumstances be able to compete in terms of sales and brand power.

Sorry guys, it's the truth. Sony can push this "it's not possible on DVD" crap all day, people didn't buy into it with Resistance, why do they think they will all the sudden buy into it now? Any look at the US sales charts proves it so. Don't go on and on with that "It's selling better than the 360 in Japan and is selling better in Europe" crap either. This game isn't aimed at Japanese and European markets. It is solely created for the purpose of trying to get more people to buy a PS3 in North America, as is this marketing PR crap.

Sony is doing what they do best here just as they do in every other situation. They are simply mimicing the competition. They're key demographic in North America is the 18-24 age group. Halo has pretty much sold an XBOX or XBOX 360 to every run-of-the-mill 18-24 year old male from California to New York. It's been a huge success for Microsoft, so why not try to copy it? Wrong. It won't work. Sony, you need to come up with a fresh idea to rule the marketplace. Take a page from Nintendo and MS books and create something that the other guy DOESN'T have. In Nintendo's case it's the entire idea behind the Wii. In MS case it's Halo and XBOX Live!.

Stop trying to just copy everything and just create an idea of your own.

Well put. But really, Sony is trying damn hard to make a great shooter with great online. Resistance is their best selling game. People in America like shooters right now. You can't blame them for trying. It is just annoying the smoke they blow up our asses. They push their products like a used car salesman would sometimes. It can be very sleezy and cheezy.

Yes Dsub you are right, Sony should stop trying to make a great game that will sell well.What does Killzone have to do with Halo and can you actually point out anywhere showing a Sony representative or a Geurilla representative labling KZ2 as a Halo killer?

Gee Kill Jebus. That's a real good argument. Let me try it. WHO ARE YOU KILL JEBUS? WHO WHO? WHO ARE YOU TO SAY THAT THIS GAME TAKES A BLU-RAY DISC??? Are you from the FUTURE? Huh? HuH?

See it works both ways =). Can both you and him are not from the future. Get it? Huh? Get it Kill Jebus?

This is why PS3 will fail.
Killzone developers need to use Blu Ray so they can show all the games graphics in high detail no compression. Fill in some parts of the game with high uncompressed FMV CGI. They want to be able to get the best possible looking game that regular DVD wouldn't be able to hold.

Thus they ignore the bigger picture, that is to make the game play itself good. Hasn't Sony devs realized graphics doesn't make the game. Killzone 2 looks like it will be just a another AA.

PS3 devs are saying they need Blu-ray sized discs for a game, but they have no trouble squeezing an entire level into 256MB of graphics memory.

Interesting.

Seriously guys, this game looks stellar and i think sony should be credited on something that looks just as amazing. I don't know why everyone is crediting dsub, no one even sony mentioned anything about this being a halo killer, so why bring that in? It's like saying: "Oh noes killzone on ps2 is teh halo 2 killer.." You guys make it seem that every sci-fi shooter the ps3 coughs up is trying to kill halo or the 360; strangely this was all fine and dnady on the ps2 or winning console at the time. people were crying about the dvds at the launch of ps2 and praising the dreamcast for its CD format it still used, guess who ran outta space down the road? The dreamcast. Guys, please do some thinking before you spurt out a load of shit. Blu-ray may be a neccesity as they seem like not using any compression on their texture formats and may even include DTS-HD audio in game! Who knows? I hope YOU guys not try to be a load of smart asses and act like u've developed and played the game to know how it is like.

I'm sick on this blu-ray thing,
I have a PS3 and bought only one Blu-ray video and it was the worst HD EVER.
have anyone saw 300 in HD? it was a super HD grany effect..

the only thing that could use the Blu-ray in game is if they do a compilation. like final fantasy compilation or metal gear solid compilation. but .. that won't happen.

Well, that's a surprise. I really expected a SONY DEVELOPMENT STUDIO to come out and say that Blu-ray wasn't needed at all.

What's next? MS Game Studios to come out and say Achievements are a necessity for the Xbox 360?

Games developed specifically for the PS3 will be better than those on the 360. Period. Just look at Heavenly Sword, Liar (which undisputedly is a workhorse, even if you don't like the controls), Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, and on and on. If developers switched to making the PS3 as their primary console to develop on, then ported it to the 360, you'd see different results. But developers are sticking with what they know, presumably, to cut costs.

The guy's last name is 'ter Heide' not Heide, kinda like saying Donald instead of Macdonald :-) Dutch names can be confusing, I admit.

Ssuk, 300 is a brand new movie and besides, on older movies the 1080 picture is taken directly off the 35mm or 70mm film.

So much BS. Did they *need* blu-ray? Absolutely not. Can you find stuff to fill it up so you can claim it can't be done on dvd9? Easy. I can tell you that I dont worry about fitting on disc. I just worry about fitting in memory.

This game is shaping up to be the next Lair from what i've seen. Beautiful, but gameplay thats uninspiring. Hey Sony, I still play the original X-COM, and its not for the pixelated dos-era graphics that keep me coming back.

take a look at the textures used in the orange box, maybe you'll see how it fits. (HL2 and EP1, EP2 in particular)
It doesnt deter me from having fun with the game but I sure as hell wouldnt complain if they were uprezed quite a bit.

is it possible to talk about a game ON ANY PLATFORM and not have it turn into fanboy flame wars 07? every platform has its stregnths and weaknesses.