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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 10:37AM (Unverified) said

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I moved to Japan a few months ago as a participant in the JET (Japanese Exchange Teaching) program and I'm a gamer so this issue is a big deal to me.

My biggest issues right now are the fact that Steam refuses to let me purchase games even though I'm using valid credit cards from the US. They apparently think the fact that I have a Japanese IP means I'm a fraudster so they block the transaction. I have yet to hear back from support so until then...no orange box for me!

My second issue is moving into next gen gaming. I want to go with either a 360 or a Ps3 but there are region problems with either of these choices. Some 360 games are region encoded not to mention it won't play US DVD's. PS3 games are region encoded, but thankfully Japan and the US are the same region now. However the PS3 still respects PS1 and PS2 region encoding, so a Japanese PS3 won't play US PS1/2 games and vice versa.

Adding to the complexity is the prospect of importing either of these consoles adds significantly to their cost. Does anyone have any suggestions for getting US consoles in Japan? I know, I know, it's the other way around that concerns most people.

But yes, thankfully my DS freely accepts Konami's Taiko drum master. Except that the hinge broke yesterday and I need to pay to ship it to Washington...

Being an overseas gamer is a tough!
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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 11:40AM (Unverified) said

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Wouldn't a Japanese PS3 be ideal? It would allow you to play all the PS2 games that Japan has that weren't ported into the U.S.! Add a U.S. slim PS2 when you return home, and you'll be able to play all PS2 and PS3 games!
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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 5:18PM (Unverified) said

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but there aren't good games for ps3
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Posted: Oct 19th 2007 4:07AM (Unverified) said

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I have the same problem. I just recently moved to mainland China and luckily i got all the hookups for my DS so that works. Unfortuantley the laptops we bought before we left aren't very good processor or graphics wise so im not going to be playing a ton of stuff over steam. And my 360 is getting here in two days so hopefully it works on our chinese TV! (Oh and steam works perfectly for me.)
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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 10:46AM (Unverified) said

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a computer monitor would solve the tv problem.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 10:49AM (Unverified) said

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Welcome to the old continent!
I'd just like to inform you that you are far from the only person with american consoles in Europe. My PS2, PSP and PS3 where/are all american versions since i didn't have the patience to sit around and wait for my RPGs being translated to french, german and spanish...
One thing you seem to have missed is that pretty much every TV that has been sold in Europe during the last 10 years supports NTSC-signals. You just need to connect your consoles with a RGB-cable. I don't no what your big plan is but it seems to be a bit unnecessary.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 10:49AM Rubix42 said

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Maybe I'm just a spoiled rich kid, but if I am moving to another country permanently, I would certainly plan on selling my existing gaming gear, and purchasing the gear in the country I was moving to.

If it was for work, you should be able to negotiate the associated cost into your relocation program. If it was a personal choice, I feel like I would just pony up the cash.

If it was just going to be a short period of time (i.e.--1 yr or less) I would try to do something like is being explained here. Maybe go ahead and purchase a small American 15 inch TV I could bring over with me, and work out the voltage conversion as has been done here.

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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 10:51AM (Unverified) said

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Would be time to convert to PC gaming, me thinks.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 10:56AM (Unverified) said

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virtually any TV will work these days (expecially an LCD etc...), or you could us a monitor or projector as mentioned above.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 10:56AM (Unverified) said

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Scott, why did you move to France? Job, family, desire to eat really really good bread? Are you in some kind of overseas program? My fiancee and I are thinking of going to France but it seems pretty hard to find a way to have an income there nowadays.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 11:01AM (Unverified) said

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When I was last in France the biggest issue with PC gaming is the keyboard.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Azerty_fr.svg/800px-Azerty_fr.svg.png

As you see here that is NOT a piece of cake to adapt to, let's not forget the extra shift keys, haha. And then again moving back to the US was not a piece of cake either.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 11:07AM (Unverified) said

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What the hell kind of weird alternate dimension was that thing made in? ... Oh, France.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 3:07PM (Unverified) said

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Well, in Belgium we have that exact same configuration. I guess we're the only ones in the world with that AZERTY keyboard, and believe me, it sucks when you play games that don't allow you to change the keys and you have to play with the standard QWERTY keys, it just doesn't work!

I can type perfectly well on one or another though =)
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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 11:04AM (Unverified) said

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It sucks. I'm in japan too and its a real pain.
(who would have thought moving to the mecca of video games would be such a problem!)

I abandoned my consoles and stocked up a lot of isos on my laptop, which has kept me going.

I want to buy the Orange Box, but its not available.

I want to subscribe to gametap, but its not available.
(I was a happy user of their free version until about 2 weeks ago when it started locking out foreign users in-client)

I would have bought a Wii 6 months ago, but the region encoding means a local one could only play games in japanese. I'd import a US one, but thats insanely expensive.
(now i'm starting to get relieved i didn't buy one as the shine seems to be wearing off, but same probs with 360 and ps3)

I've mostly been playing on my DS to be honest. GBA and DS games are region free, and i can play a lot of japanese DS/GBA games without needing much japanese as the dialogue is much less.

Other than that, i'd have recommended a laptop, steam and gametap, until they messed them up.

Looks like it might have to be 2nd hand games off ebay.... or just torrent them, since the publishers seem to WANT TO MAKE IT HARD for me to actually BUY.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 11:07AM (Unverified) said

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you can always play tic-tac-toe

or red rover

or twister
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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 11:25AM (Unverified) said

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6 months in the UK in 2004 = a used gamecube from a local Game store, and a lot of trade-ins. the gameboy came along, and it was easy enough to use to converter to keep it changed.

oh sure, there were sights to see and all, but what is paris compared to finished mario & luigi????
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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 11:27AM (Unverified) said

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I moved from the US to Europe two years ago, but we planned the move to be a more or less permanent one, so I sold my current consoles and games that I had at the time (ps2,GC), and bought my next gen console here (360). The only annoying part is making sure games have an english language option before I buy them, playing Oblivion in german is not something I want to experience again. I personally wouldn't want to import too many of games, if you're unlucky, customs will charge you quite a bit for them.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 11:28AM chdude3 said

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Scott - in terms of power, please be aware that voltage is not the only thing that's different. Of course from the US to France you'll see the nominal mains voltage increase from 120V AC to 230V AC, but the operating *frequency* will decrease from 60Hz to 50Hz.

Most wide-voltage power bricks will be able to handle this, but I have seen bricks with 100-140Vac that will only accept 60Hz input (or 50Hz). Just make sure the input voltage and frequency match your mains levels, and that the DC output current meets or exceeds your old adapter's rating (and of course that the DC output voltage matches).

Fried electronics smell really bad, you don't want to let the smoke out of any of your equipment!
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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 11:51AM (Unverified) said

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Just as a note: France is an oddball among European countries in that they don't use the PAL standard. They use SECAM. Unless something has changed in the past while. Most PAL TVs manufactured in the past few years can handle an NTSC signal just fine. SECAM is a different case.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 12:14PM (Unverified) said

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I'm in the same boat (moving to the Netherlands from the US) and as a hardcore Nintendo fanboy it's a little tricky. Here's my tips:

* The power brick replacement is good advice, you can easily find universal DS replacement cables for 10-15 euros. (Search for the 10, they do exist!) That said, Wii power bricks take a little more searching, you may need to go straight to Nintendo.

* AV connections aren't always available. Be on the look out for SCART hookups too, they come as the only hookup on some older TVs. You can recognize them easily because they look like the old giant Parallel ports on circa-2000 computers. These are basically no-gos for console goodness.

* Many newer TVs in Europe DO support NTSC encoding actually! You should check with the TV manufactor's website. If you're in the market for a TV and you're not in a tiny room, go with an new CRT. At least in the Netherlands, flat screens are taking off so CRTs are MUCH cheaper. You can easily find the same screen size for several hundred euros cheaper.

* You can still get games to play on a PAL TV sometimes, albeit in only black and white. It makes thing noir and noir is awesome.

* Beware and be aware of the $25 NTSC to PAL converters they sell on Amazon and some other game supply sites. The colors may wash around some on the screen. That said, if you can't buy a new TV, too poor for anything else, or don't want to deal with using your monitor (too small, too complex, etc etc) then these things can be a godsend. I do advise avoiding the Mayflash brand, but YMMV with other brands.

* Lastly, be aware that games are freaking EXPENSIVE in Europe and oddly priced at times. Be prepared to pay 60 euros for a new Wii game, 40-50 euros for a DS game and 30-40 euros for a GBA game. Given these prices, keeping your NTSC consoles and importing might not be a bad idea. Just remember, you might end up paying duties. Another benefit here though is that with the exception of Tingle's Rosy Colored Rupee Land, Europe is crapped on by every console. You're gonna be several months behind your gaming friends in the US and paying a lot more.

Just saying, I'm definitely keeping my NTSC consoles.

Anyways, that's all the advice I can think of off the top of my head. If you have any other questions, please let me know!
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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 12:18PM (Unverified) said

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Try console gaming in Korea...oh right, doesn't really happen. Also, Nintendo is rightly pissed at the Koreans (they seriously steal ALL of the games for the thing. R4 are the STANDARD here).

They haven't heard of an N64, Super Nintendo, Genesis, etc..

They do know what a 360 is but this is synonymous with "XBox," AKA, they know the 360 but not the original. The PS2 is recognized (strictly for Winning Soccer 11) and the PS3 is not selling at all according to the few stores I've visited.

I got a power-converter for my DS charger and my laptop brick can handle 240 (and thus I only needed an outlet adapter).

Meanwhile, Steam is non-existent here and the Orange Box is completely out of my reach.

Oh well, at least I can get a great game of Starcraft whenever I want.

*sigh*

I want to play a decent fighting game SOO bad.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 12:27PM (Unverified) said

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When I lived in Japan, my DS was a lifesaver, the lack of region encoding meant I could buy all the games I wanted with no worries (i.e. Ouendan and Mother 3). I also took my Gamecube and the bootdisc.

It's also comforting to know that our electronics won't freak out when plugged into the wall, the only think is they don't have the grounded prong (the larger one) so some plugs may not fit as well.

When I move back I'll probably straight up buy another Wii for access to Japanese games and their Virtual Console selection.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 3:57PM Maxsunset said

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Regarding the TV... There is no NTSC vs PAL when it comes to HDTV, there is only ATSC, which, to the best of my understanding, is a universal standard. And really, if you arent sporting an HDTV by now, your really should be! Even PS2 and Wii games that support progressive scan look quite a bit better on an HDTV!
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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 2:19PM Dale P said

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There are plenty of TVs available in Europe that accept a 60Hz NTSC signal. As someone else said, I don't know if this includes SECAM TVs, but if you stick to the bigger brands, you should be OK.

Importing games from the US is a win-win situation if you're being paid in pounds, the exchange rate pretty much doubles your buying power. I'm not sure what the difference is between euros and dollars though.

I moved from the UK to the US earlier this year. My solution was to bring my DS and DS/PC/Mac games, and leave everything else in storage with family. I didn't own any of the new generation systems so there wasn't much I would miss terribly.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 2:32PM (Unverified) said

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I visited Kuwait recently with my 360 and my fresh new copies of BioShock and the Darkness. I didn't realize until I got there that the big honking power brick didn't support 240V, so I had only brought the plug converters! I mean, even my stupid tiny camera charger supported dual voltage, come on!

I ended up buying a 360-specific rated power transformer (500 watts, about $35). I tested it at the hotel and it worked, but I got food poisoning and didn't play. The next day I moved to a much nicer hotel in the downtown district and tried again, but it had some stupid Composite/SVideo to SCART convertor which worked fine with the hotel DVD player, but no-go for the 360! I ended up shuttling my 360, the power brick, two controllers, various cables, etc for nothing.

What happens if I buy a TV (and LCD) here in North America, will it work in Europe or the Middle East?

AoD
http://fablesoft.blogspot.com
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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 2:37PM ThornedVenom said

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I used to live in Paris. Good luck.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 3:23PM erichsouza said

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Hook up the consoles by a component input and all games will work just fine. Component connection doesn't have a color system like PAL or NTSC.
This does work since I have all WRC games for PS2 and just the first one were released on US (of course, I won't mention WRC NTSC-Jap ones).
But it's almost sure that a new TV may have NTSC also.
From personal experience here in the Jungle (a.k.a. Brazil), all tv sets sold for a few years now have 2 PAL variants (M and N) but also NTSC as well.
Everything that I put on my PS2, NTSC or PAL, will be shown in full color.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 3:59PM (Unverified) said

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Suprised nobody else mentioned the Xbox Live problem.

I have moved to Canada from UK. I purchased a new Xbox360 here and logged in with my gametag I used in England. Over time I realised that the only content on marketplace available to me was from UK. I tried changing my address and billing information on the account but Microsoft doesn’t let you change the country details. Now I can’t buy anything on market place as well as I can’t update my subscription. I spend over 6 hours on the phone with Xbox Live Support who didn’t have a clue why that was like that. They told me my only option is to buy a new Gold account, but I am not too happy about loosing all the content associated to the gamertag profile (gamer points, arcade games, saved games etc).

Nice work Microsoft!
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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 7:23PM (Unverified) said

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While that sucks for you, that's another pro for anyone moving from the US.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2007 6:35PM (Unverified) said

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"Next week, I'll discuss my crazy plan to play video games without a television. And it works, too."

Hook it to a computer monitor/laptop with RCA inputs?? I don't know... But it sounded good.




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Posted: Oct 25th 2007 6:31PM (Unverified) said

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Nice article.
I wish I had read it a few days earlier as I just got back from Germany and had to ride the whole way back with a dead DS because I couldnt charge it there. Doh! Next time.
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Posted: Oct 25th 2007 6:29PM (Unverified) said

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Next time, indeed. And hey: if push comes to shove you can always resort to card games :)
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