http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/ Joystiq Comments for Analyst: PS2 slowly dying and EA Sports juggernauts underperforming http://www.joystiq.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.joystiq.com en-us Copyright 2008 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/Oct 20th 2007 4:07PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/Oct 20th 2007 5:47PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/
Maybe this justifies Sony dropping backwards compatibility, ps2 still has the most readily available great games on the market, but developers have probably squeezed all the potential from the device. I'd like the market to move onwards, preferably to a similarly cheap and expansive bunch of Wii games. And all bad EA news is good general person news.]]>Oct 20th 2007 6:56PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/Alt + Ctrl + e = é]]>Oct 21st 2007 8:37AMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/Oct 21st 2007 11:29PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/
As for EA, maybe the tide is finally turning]]>Oct 20th 2007 4:11PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/Oct 20th 2007 4:14PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/
probably the stories about ps3 madden having low FPS didn't help sales either

i'm sure sales for maddens and ps2s will pick up for xmas, but then ps2's will free-fall after the holidays]]>Oct 20th 2007 4:14PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/Oct 20th 2007 4:30PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/Oct 20th 2007 4:32PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/Oct 20th 2007 4:39PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/Oct 20th 2007 4:48PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/Oct 20th 2007 5:02PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/Oct 20th 2007 5:11PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/
For EAs own good it should bail on the Wii right now before they spend too much.]]>Oct 20th 2007 5:20PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/
It is, out of their own mouths, their over-investment in PS360 that's been hindering them

They said it, although you could be right that that division's losing money. Boogie flopped, but SSX did pretty well ]]>Oct 20th 2007 5:29PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/
But you're comment is wrong. Rather than bail out on the Wii altogether, EA should invest more of their attention on the Wii and try to actually make something revolutionary.

I do seem like an optimist in that sentence. The best thing I can see happening is them releasing another run of the mill Madden game.]]>Oct 20th 2007 5:40PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/
Probably because Boogie wasn't very good while SSX was a pretty typical SSX game (rockin').
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just stop writing, you just get whited out like a blizzard]]>Oct 21st 2007 12:08AMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/
ATTACH RATES DON'T MEAN SHIT WHEN YOUR CONSOLE IS SELLING LIKE GANG-BUSTERS...GO HOME.]]>Oct 22nd 2007 7:57AMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/Oct 20th 2007 5:35PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/
01. Madden NFL 08 (Xbox 360) - 896,600
02. Madden NFL 08 (PS2) - 643,600
03. BioShock (Xbox 360) - 490,900
04. Madden NFL 08 (PS3) - 336,200
05. Wii Play (Wii) - 256,800
06. Metroid Prime 3: Corruption (Wii) - 218,100
07. Mario Strikers Charged (Wii) - 147,400
08. Guitar Hero II (PS2) - 145,400
09. Mario Party 8 (Wii) - 138,300
10. Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s (PS2) - 127,100

11. Madden NFL 08 (Wii)
12. Madden NFL 08 (Xbox)
13. Brain Age 2: More Training In Minutes A Day (DS)
14. Two Worlds (Xbox 360)
15. Pokemon Diamond (DS)
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Their contract with the NFL creates most of the biggest problems with Madden. Make 1 game a year, make virtually the same thing, release across all platforms ad nauseum

If they tried to make it better, they would lose the exclusivity, then it would get a lot better indeed (or just get into monopoly with some other company)]]>Oct 20th 2007 6:20PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/Oct 20th 2007 6:55PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/Oct 20th 2007 6:11PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/Oct 20th 2007 6:19PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/
Well, duh! Of course those sales numbers are in decline from prior years.

And if you think it's simply people not buying PS2 software, I can help clarify just from my own perspective. I was a PS2 owner. Had been a huge Sony fan for many years. But, I've since given away my PS2 and moved on. The PS3 was too expensive, so I'm not a Sony console owner anymore.

Go back to Madden, I'm really shocked the numbers are a high as they are, considering it's basically the same game year after year. It's inevitable people will get tired of it at some point.]]>Oct 20th 2007 6:26PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/]]>Oct 20th 2007 6:56PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/
Listen to the hilarity of what you're saying. EA is a consumer goods company. They understand plenty about consumers, and, in fact, the figures seem to suggest that roughly 2 million consumers bought Madden 08. Explain how it is that they aren't doing what consumers demand, because the flow of finances seems to suggest otherwise.]]>Oct 20th 2007 9:42PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/Oct 20th 2007 7:26PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/Oct 20th 2007 8:12PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/
i mean look at tiger woods this year, i heard about bugs all over the place with it, that's why I didn't buy it]]>Oct 20th 2007 9:27PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/
It would kill EA to do that though.]]>Oct 20th 2007 8:56PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/
but on cd's, roster changes somehow are worth $60]]>Oct 20th 2007 9:28PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/
That what the hell good is he as an analyst?!]]>Oct 20th 2007 10:55PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/Oct 21st 2007 12:51AMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/Oct 21st 2007 3:44AMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/20/analyst-ps2-slowly-dying-and-ea-sports-juggernauts-underperform/
A better rephrasing: "Don't buy new games at their initial release and the console maker may drop its game prices." Unless, of course, you just have more money than common sense.]]>Oct 21st 2007 2:43AM