ESRB issues statement about Manhunt 2 hacks and controversy

The ESRB recently held an investigation regarding Manhunt 2 and the hack that makes the censored material available -- we've placed the corresponding release and Q&A after the break. ESRB president Patricia Vance makes it clear that unauthorized hacking of the code does not constitute a need to reissue the rating, and that parents should be vigilant of what their kids are downloading from the internet in order to modify or remove "controls the industry has so diligently put in place for their own protection."
Vance better watch her back, parents don't like being told to do their job -- that's how wars with Canada get started.
ESRB STATEMENT REGARDING INVESTIGATION INTO MANHUNT 2
Manhunt 2 was rated Mature by the ESRB for ages 17 and older for Intense Violence, Blood and Gore, Strong Language, Strong Sexual Content and Use of Drugs.
Earlier this week we learned about a hack into the code of the PSP and PS2 versions of the game that removes special effects filters that were put in place to obscure certain violent depictions. We have investigated the matter and concluded that unauthorized versions of the game have been released on the Internet along with instructions on how to modify the code to remove the special effects. Once numerous changes to the game's code have been made and other unauthorized software programs have been downloaded to the hardware device which circumvent security controls that prevent unauthorized games from being played on that hardware, a player can view unobscured versions of certain violent acts in the game. Contrary to some reports, however, we do not believe these modifications fully restore the product to the version that originally received an AO rating, nor is this a matter of unlocking content.
Our investigation indicates that the game's publisher disclosed to the ESRB all pertinent content in the authorized Mature-rated version of Manhunt 2 now available in stores, and complied with our guidelines on full disclosure of content.
What parents, and indeed all consumers, need to be aware of is that computer software and hardware devices are susceptible to unauthorized modification. Parents should be cognizant of whether or not their children are engaging in unauthorized modification of their games, consoles or handhelds, as those modifications can change game content in ways that may be inconsistent with the assigned ESRB rating. That being said, the vast majority of consumers have not made the unauthorized modifications to their hardware necessary to view the content at issue.
ESRB president Patricia Vance said:
"Manhunt 2's rating makes it unmistakable that the game is intended for an older audience. The unauthorized hacking into the code of this game doesn't change that basic fact.
"Parents need to be vigilant about monitoring what their children are downloading on the Internet and ensure that they are not making unauthorized and oftentimes illegal modifications to software and hardware that remove the controls the industry has so diligently put in place for their own protection."
Q&A
How is this situation different from the "Hot Coffee" incident?
The Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas "Hot Coffee" situation involved a scene that was a) fully rendered in an unmodified form on the disc (the Hot Coffee mod did not alter the content that was there, it merely unlocked it), b) not previously disclosed to the ESRB during the rating process, and c) easily accessible to all owners of the PC version of the game. Conversely, in the case of Manhunt 2, a) content that was programmed to be part of the game (i.e., visual blurring effects of certain violent depictions) is being modified, b) the content was previously disclosed to the ESRB, and c) unauthorized versions of software and/or hardware are required to play the modified content.
How is this situation different from the one with "The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion?"
After the release of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, the ESRB discovered extensive amounts of fully rendered and previously undisclosed blood and gore in the game that warranted a Mature rating. In addition, there was a fully rendered anatomically detailed art file of a topless female character present on the disc that had not been previously disclosed to the ESRB during the rating process. The blood and gore was accessible to all owners of the PC and Xbox 360 versions of the game. The partial nudity was accessible to all owners of the PC version of the game if they downloaded a modification available on the Internet that replaced one version of character artwork for another, both of which existed in a fully rendered form on the disc. Conversely, with Manhunt 2, a) the content in question was previously disclosed to the ESRB, b) the content is being modified by removing the obscuring blur effect that was programmed as part of the game, and c) unauthorized versions of software and/or hardware are required to play the modified content.
Why does this instance not fall under the ESRB's disclosure rule clarification requiring that locked-out content contained in the code on a game disc be considered in the assignment of a rating?
Our rule clarification following Hot Coffee required that pertinent content that is programmed to be locked out but which exists in an unmodified, fully rendered form on game discs must either be removed or disclosed to ESRB during the rating process. In the case of Manhunt 2, the scenes in question were playable (not locked-out), programmed to include the blur effect, and fully disclosed to the ESRB.





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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Psaakyrn @ Nov 2nd 2007 6:08PM
2 problems with this.
1) Wasn't the whole "Hot Coffee" incident caused by a hack?
2) Maybe I'm unclear about ratings, but isn't MA titles not supposed to be played by children to begin with?
ColossalHat @ Nov 2nd 2007 6:12PM
1) Yes
2) Indeed
The problem is that the media and government officials still seem unable to understand that a greater portion of video game outlets card you when you buy a mature rated game. Thus making it a virtual nonissue, but logic has never been the media's or politicians' strong point.
ColossalHat @ Nov 2nd 2007 6:19PM
Bah, I just reread the article. Anyway, it seems that they rerated San Andreas because the hot coffee minigame was still in the game's code and was also not shown to the ESRB. Though it was only accessible through a hack.
This makes me wonder why they aren't doing the same with Manhunt, as the kills were obviously rendered at one time then blurred out, and all the hack is doing is removing this blur.
Psaakyrn @ Nov 2nd 2007 6:23PM
Quick conclusion: video game sex is rated higher in the adult scale than video game violence. (I don't think Manhunt has censored out sex, does it?) Even if SA had to be re-rated, the fact that it's hidden behind a hack means that it shouldn't affect the ratings at all, UNLESS they're at different severity.
Snap @ Nov 2nd 2007 6:59PM
The ManHunt 2 "hack" is quite different from Hot Coffee. In ManHunt 2 you have to download the full game illegally, hack the downloaded game, and run it on a modified PSP which is unauthorized by Sony.
So, instead of downloading a simple "activate" patch like Hot Coffee was, Manhunt 2 requires several illegal activities to perform the "hack".
IMO, it's clearly different.
Psaakyrn @ Nov 2nd 2007 7:12PM
Just a correction: games uploaded from the internet come from their respective cartridge/miniCD/storage media they were originally from, though games with unique storage media generally require specialized hardware/software to extract. So theoretically the person who hacked the game to remove the filter could've gotten their game from actual products (though using illegal means to seperate software from media).
rv @ Nov 2nd 2007 7:49PM
Yes, but all of us know its not rockstars fault that the content was unlocked, and the ESRB knows that Rockstar wasn't responsible, however everyone from media to parents wanted them to be punished for the incident( I think this is the way they feel). Also, they probably don't want the shitstorm that accompanies another hot coffee.
Jackhack @ Nov 2nd 2007 6:27PM
It'd be funny if you could hack it so the main character, or one of his victims would look like Jack Thompson.
Shagittarius @ Nov 2nd 2007 6:49PM
murder simulators are so passe, the next big fad is rape simulators...
RockStar games presents: Manhole
Slaziman @ Nov 2nd 2007 7:05PM
Haha, wow Shagi you've been getting in some good ones lately.
Foetoid @ Nov 2nd 2007 10:54PM
Manwhore would have been just as funny, starring Deuce Not-so-big-below.
Elan @ Nov 3rd 2007 2:56AM
Rapeplay. Or Rapelay. PC hentai game, only available in Japan where the entire point of the game is to rape and kidnap all the members of a family, and then keep them as your pets and rape them some more.
Rape simulators have actually been around for quite a long time, though they're moreso in Japan.
Xaos @ Nov 2nd 2007 7:01PM
Who the hell do they think they are, the RIAA? I'll mod any game that I paid for any damn way I please.
carg0 @ Nov 2nd 2007 7:08PM
please stop wasting our time with this shit. no one f%ing cares about manhunt 2 except the idiots in pop-media news. it's like every other goddamned post on this website is about this game.
ENOUGH ALREADY!
Psaakyrn @ Nov 2nd 2007 7:13PM
Except we're talking about ESRB now, and we care about ESRB.
carg0 @ Nov 2nd 2007 7:24PM
oh, it's about the ESRB you say? is it, now?
that picture of one man lighting another on fire, while still holding the tank really represents the ESRB quite candidly. what was i thinking?
Psaakyrn @ Nov 2nd 2007 7:41PM
Point is, everything there is to say about Manhunt 2 has already been said. The only thing new in this article is whatever ESRB has to say. That's what we're interested in.
harusame @ Nov 2nd 2007 7:58PM
Of course children should be protected from seeing ultra-violence and hard porn but I don't understand how it could be harmful to anyone of any age to see an "anatomically detailed topless female character". Does seeing a pair of boobs psychologically scar a child for the rest of their lives?
I guess it does, for surely the ESRB and the government know better than us, the lowly ordinary people.
Synner @ Nov 3rd 2007 12:45PM
I wish they'd apply the same logic to mothers whippng their titties out in the mall to breast feed as they do to boobs anywhere else.
Rubang B (BRUSH WITH FAME) @ Nov 3rd 2007 2:38PM
My mom breastfed me. That's why I'm buying Manhunt 2. Scarred for life. I hate titties.
ares04 @ Nov 2nd 2007 8:18PM
This is ridiculous,the first manhunt was way more violent. If not for the media's coverage of the wii's version this game would not have been censored. it's not even that bad. you can check out the unrated video on my blog.
www.ares04.com
drun @ Nov 2nd 2007 8:59PM
Every legal Manhunt2 player should be 17, and their parents shall allow them to play the hacked version after next birthday.
pixelator @ Nov 2nd 2007 10:09PM
"...and in no way brings the concept of a thrill kill to the Wii."
Um, last time I checked, this brouhaha was over the PSP hack and had nothing to do with the Wii.
Contrary to popular fanb... er, editor opinion, the gaming universe does not revolve around the Wii. The new name for 'game console' will not become 'Wii' ala Xerox for copies - much to the chagrin of the Nintendo faithful, I'm sure.
Martin @ Nov 2nd 2007 10:31PM
Don't be a tool. The author was merely pointing out the fact that the reason this game has garnered so much attention is because of the Wii's motion controls simulating the act of violence, rather than pressing a button.
Not everything revolves around being hypersensitive.
Adam @ Nov 2nd 2007 10:14PM
So, now that someone at the ESRB (ironically, a woman) has had the balls to just come out and say this, and deny the game's re-rating, can we finally call the whole "Hot Coffee" thing a dead issue? It's always been up to the parents to supervise their kids. It's like that's their job, or something.
DomoBraden @ Nov 3rd 2007 1:02AM
Although short, I have to say that this article is very precise and to the point. You've covered all the major points without inserting any sorry attempts at humor and get your point across without any possibilities of misunderstanding....well except for the retards that make up about 98% of the internet's population, but that's neither here nor there.
Good job. Simplicity is truth at it's finest.
Synner @ Nov 3rd 2007 12:49PM
Oddly enough they had to rerate oblivion though? This is retarded
t_m @ Nov 3rd 2007 1:06PM
I usually support the ESRB, but this time I frankly can't make out the minute distinctions they are making.
In the Hot Coffee incident the code wasn't even part of the game. In this case its plainly vilible in the game, all they are doing is altering the visial effects. (like turning off Bloom in the options, almost).
In the Oblivion case they made the nudity visible by moding the game to remove the concealing clothes.
In the Manhunt case they made the violence visible by modding the game to remove the concealing filters.
Joe @ Nov 3rd 2007 2:16PM
If hacks now don't apply to re-ratings, can we get San Andreas' original version and Oblivion back to M and T ratings, respectively?
Rubang B (BRUSH WITH FAME) @ Nov 3rd 2007 2:40PM
It's nice to see the ESRB grow some balls and tell parents "Watch out your kids can mod shit and that doesn't affect our ratings. Parent them or something you idiots."