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Posted: Nov 8th 2007 11:25AM (Unverified) said

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lets talk about attach rates...

Posted: Nov 8th 2007 11:41AM (Unverified) said

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whoo something else the 360 wins
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Posted: Nov 8th 2007 11:45AM copa said

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PS3 SALES RATES ARE SO LOW BECAUSE OF THE BELGIAN BLUE RING OF DEATH! OH MY GOD!

(I'm sorry, I'm easily entertained)
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Posted: Nov 8th 2007 12:20PM Shagittarius said

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Interesting this means that each owner of each console spent approximately the following amount on software:

PS3: 3.10 per console
Wii 4.07 per console
360 17.44 per console


Since the Wii has a bigger install base yet owners spent 4 times less on software the 360 looks to be the prefered platform this generation. Additionally since you can port games fairly easily between the 360 and PS3 I would expect that trend to continue as well.

What this data indicates is that theres not much money to be made in making software as EA for the Wii, especially original titles, and I would expect EA to focus in the future on the 360 and PS3 ports.
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Posted: Nov 8th 2007 12:36PM PoisonedAl said

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Yes but that's just what people spent on EA games ONLY. Seeing how they didn't make anything for the Wii, it proves how piss poor the PS3 is doing to come last. Hell, I can't even think of an EA title for the Wii. Where did they get their money from?
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Posted: Nov 8th 2007 12:51PM Shagittarius said

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EA has released more games for the Wii than for the PS3...Wii games include:

MySims
Tigerwoods
The SImpsons
Madden
Boogie
EA Playground
FIFA
Medal of Honor
NBA Live
Need for speed carbon
The Godfather
Harry Potter

Seeing as how it takes more work to port from the lead dev platform of the 360 to the Wii than to the PS3 I'd say EA will be seriously rethinking their Wii support if this trend keeps up.
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Posted: Nov 8th 2007 2:50PM PoisonedAl said

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Ah, no wonder I forgot them.
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Posted: Nov 8th 2007 11:25AM SheppyReturns said

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Oh god, here we go....

Posted: Nov 8th 2007 11:26AM (Unverified) said

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And if EA put good games on the Wii, the revenues will be better.

Posted: Nov 8th 2007 12:22PM foxhound said

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Though we'll probably both catch flame for this, I have to agree. I like the Wii's control scheme for Madden... but goddamn; the graphics are piss poor even for the Wii, the online features aren't as grandiose as X360/PS3, and frankly it feels like a totally half-assed attempt.

It's no surprise the PS3 sales of EA IPs/games are also dismal, considering they also were given such a lame effort. It's dreadfully obvious that since I have both X360 and PS3 consoles and a choice between MADDEN08 on either system... I'm going with the X360 because of not only the 60fps(which IS possible on PS3, but wasn't done), but it's quite obvious that with the management shift from MS to EA; you'd have to be crazy to think the two wouldn't be bedfellows.

I can't effin' wait until EA's contract with the NFL is up. That's still the biggest steaming pile of crap in videogaming today.
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Posted: Nov 8th 2007 11:26AM (Unverified) said

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Wii60 FTW!

Posted: Nov 8th 2007 1:02PM (Unverified) said

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What's missing here is the number of games released. I mean, yes the PS3 is totally lacking, but aside from Madden with its lower 30fps than the 360, there weren't many marque names for the PS3. And even with probably a lot fewer PS2 titles (except for Madden), the PS2 still did quite well.
Of course, having all these former Microsoft people at EA can't have anything to do with this.

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Posted: Nov 8th 2007 11:30AM McWeen said

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I can't even remember the last EA game I played that didn't make me envy the dead.

Posted: Nov 8th 2007 11:42AM (Unverified) said

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skate? cod4? mass effect? rock band?

sorry, but ea actually has some good franchises now
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Posted: Nov 8th 2007 11:49AM (Unverified) said

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Wii need some good franchises from EA =(

Not Boogie
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Posted: Nov 8th 2007 11:52AM McWeen said

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skate? cod4? mass effect? rock band?

sorry, but ea actually has some good franchises now

skate was not fun. cod4 woo hoo another army shooter! mass effect looks boring. could not possibly care less about rock band.
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Posted: Nov 8th 2007 11:52AM mcarage said

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skate is a great game. After playing it I can't believe we had things like Tony Hawk for so long.
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Posted: Nov 8th 2007 12:13PM arrrgh said

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+ on that

skate is amazing fun (jus add intoxicants)

cod4 looks sick too cant wait
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Posted: Nov 8th 2007 12:32PM (Unverified) said

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Guys...

Call of Duty belongs to Activision.
Medal of Honor belongs to EA. Being they're more different than ever this year, there's no excuse to mix them up anymore.

Also, I enjoyed SSX Blur and Godfather Wii.

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Posted: Nov 8th 2007 1:21PM (Unverified) said

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COD4 was published by Activision.
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Posted: Nov 8th 2007 11:31AM (Unverified) said

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Now you can see why developers don't bother to make PS3 ports look any better (or equal in some cases) when the payoff is nil.

Posted: Nov 8th 2007 11:31AM Negativecool said

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Such is the power of America's love for Madden.

Posted: Nov 8th 2007 11:34AM Negativecool said

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I think it's pretty clear from those numbers that those upgrading from PS2's are not buying PS3's for the brand recognition that was suppose to sell PS3's without games.
No, they are clearly buying 360's and Wii's.
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Posted: Nov 8th 2007 12:41PM PoisonedAl said

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Oh I think the rest of the world had a hand, dumbly buying FIFA++ too. If memory serves me correctly, Madden didn't shift as many units as expected this year. Maybe people are cottoning on to the fact it's the same shit they bought last year.
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Posted: Nov 8th 2007 2:27PM (Unverified) said

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I dont have any EA games on any of my 3 systems. Quit supporting them 360 FB's!!

Posted: Nov 8th 2007 11:37AM (Unverified) said

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Xbox360 $218 Million
PS3 $17 Million

So only by $201 Million? Meh.

Bwahahahahahahahahaaaaa!!!!!!

Wii60 FTW baby!!

Posted: Nov 8th 2007 11:50AM (Unverified) said

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until ea creates games on the ps3 that are equal or better than their xbox360 counterparts, i wouldnt buy anything from ea on the ps3 either.

if the xbox360 attach rate is around 7.8 games, and the ps3 is about 5.5... taking userbase into consideration, that equates to the ps3 owners buying nearly the same amount of games, but would only increase EA's sales to $35M.

that means that ps3 owners are buying the games, its just not from EA. can you blame em?

Posted: Nov 8th 2007 8:29PM (Unverified) said

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it's not looking like a valid argument as so far it looks like Ratched and Clank (which looks awesome) is selling horribly.
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Posted: Nov 8th 2007 12:14PM arrrgh said

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you're supposed to buy ps3 games because they're in 4D. not because they're good. Kaz said so.
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Posted: Nov 8th 2007 12:36PM SpartacusMagnus said

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Latest NPD numbers put PS3 attach rates around 3.5, not 5.5.

Sony either has a long hard battle ahead of them or a really short one...
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Posted: Nov 8th 2007 12:38PM (Unverified) said

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didn't the post last week put the ps3's attach rate at like 2.6 or 2.8? Where are you getting 5.5? I think that number is WAY off.
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Posted: Nov 8th 2007 2:54PM (Unverified) said

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my apologies. the attach rates are approximately [or as approx as the source assumes] 6.59 for the xbox360, and 3.58. that brings the numbers to about 7 and 4.

note: these are only the us figures.

anyways, even with the updated numbers the equation still stands. doubling the size of the ps3 userbase while maintaining that all of the new users will have similar buying habits equates to: PS3 owners are still buying loads of games, but very few EA titles.

if the ps3 userbase was equal to the xbox360s and the attach rate tripled to 12 games per console, EA would have still only made $51M, because PS3 owners refuse to buy their subpar software.

i look at it like this, i own both consoles. in my eyes, the second that a developer comes out and says 'x version is inferior'. i immediately realize: "they really dont care to make decent software. im not buying this". i eliminate the potential possibility of me ever buying that game. the second that they said that they couldnt [read: didnt put in enough effort] get their flagship game to run at equal framerates, i eliminated that purchase from my shopping list. [im not paying for live again, so most multiplayer stuff i buy on PS3]

EA ruined their own payday, and tons of PS3 owners are on strike against EA and capcom. if you dont keep your customers happy, what do you expect? they get no sympathy from me.
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Posted: Nov 9th 2007 1:15PM (Unverified) said

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Attach rates are normalized per console sold, so they're not about the same at all.
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Posted: Nov 8th 2007 11:51AM (Unverified) said

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But....but....but.... just wait till the PS3's great games come out. Like Lair, and Heavenly Swor... oh wait... they already did.... ummmm...Ratchet and Cla... ummm.... Home! Yeah, Home! Just you wait, you will see. It's just off to a slow start, just like the PS2 was! Once developers understand how to program for the needlessly overly complex architecture, which is causing budgets to balloon over development of the same game on the other consoles, things will work themselves out!

Posted: Nov 8th 2007 12:16PM arrrgh said

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know why that architecture is so nedlessly complex? Just ad Blu-Ray!! Smooth sony. Now because of hdcp and sony's blu ray lust, everything that was going to be amazing about ps3 has been stretched and delayed and now no one is as interested :(

WHERE's MY REAL PS3!?@!?@!
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Posted: Nov 8th 2007 3:11PM Scaught said

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I don't know. Unless you are a CEO lighting up a cigar and laughing it up at the hunting lodge, I don't see the real appeal of sales figures.

I don't even know the Q3 figures for the company that I work for.

Posted: Nov 8th 2007 11:56AM The Fuzz 53 said

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IF EA is making all of their money off of the 360, then why do all of the commercials for The Simpsons Game only mention the Playstation platforms?? I also noticed that same thing on an Assassin's Creed commercial. Who is Sony blowing for this advertising?

Posted: Nov 8th 2007 12:23PM arrrgh said

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I think you answered your own question here. EA needs their sony sales up, so they're advertising the sony stuff...they know 360 will sell
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Posted: Nov 8th 2007 12:31PM Dale P said

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If Mass Effect doesn't significantly improve the 360's lead next quarter, you should all be ashamed of yourselves.
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Posted: Nov 8th 2007 1:20PM Starcade said

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Sony may be subsidizing those ads.

It's the same thing that happens with Best Buy or Circuit City weekly circulars. Some weeks you may notice that Sony is on the front cover or certain movies are on all the television sets.
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Posted: Nov 8th 2007 12:01PM sand0789 said

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Wow. The 360 is busting the PS3's ass really bad in the US. Numbers like this will have a serious impact on the future of PS3 exclusives, especially 3rd party.

Why not just make it for 360 instead?

Posted: Nov 8th 2007 12:02PM WC said

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Wow, considering that EA got on the Wii bandwagon late, it sure is doing well with Wii profits.

I have to think the 360's lead is in response to wanting a faster platform for the games, so they chose the 360 for most of the new ones.

Posted: Nov 8th 2007 12:03PM falcomadol said

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Not profits, revenues. There's a big difference.
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Posted: Nov 8th 2007 12:02PM falcomadol said

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They're not blowing anyone, they're just doing comarketing, which is one of the things they were falling down on earlier.

Sony puts up part of the ad buy, and their tag is on the end of the clip. It's the same for 360.

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I'd be interested in seeing the contribution to operating profit for each of these lines of business.

Posted: Nov 8th 2007 12:04PM IcedEagle said

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What can I say that hasn't been said? :)

Wii60 for the win.

Posted: Nov 8th 2007 12:27PM (Unverified) said

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hmm that seems strange, even just taking into account august, if PS3 sold 338k copies of Madden 08 in august, that alone would be near 20million (53mil just for madden ont he 360 in august too) in software revenues... maybe i'm missing something here?

Posted: Nov 8th 2007 8:13PM (Unverified) said

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I was wondering the same EXACT thing!
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Posted: Nov 8th 2007 11:31PM (Unverified) said

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HEy EA give up on the Sims, its crap and only 13 year old girls play it, how about you do something good, like improving the AI on your sports game so people other than Frat boys buy Madden so they don't look uncool and have something to talk about to their friends between dropping GHB in some poor girls drink.

Posted: Nov 8th 2007 12:18PM (Unverified) said

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ROCK ON Wii60!

SMG, Assassin's Creed, Need For Speed: ProStreet, AND Mass Effect....

The ps3 doesn't stand a chance...

But wait for it..."umm yeah just wait till Uncharted!"
That will save the psTRIPLE!"

Posted: Nov 8th 2007 12:24PM (Unverified) said

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EA's makin' tons of money on Xbox 360 without even try hard on advertising... well, business is like this and I don't think Sony bandwagon can spin this in any favorable way either...

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