Reading entertainment trade publication Variety's review of The Simpsons Game makes it pretty obvious that as video games evolve, and mainstream publications start doing more reviews, so too do the methods of evaluating them. The Simpson's Game seems to be one of those anomalies we're running into more frequently, where the game may not be all that to typical game review publications (and certainly not worth $60), but still presents an experience worth having (Heavenly Sword says "hello"). The games are neither evolutionary nor revolutionary for the hardcore, and so the reviewers give it a whatever score and move on to the next game they have to rate and berate.
Variety got a lot of flak for their Metroid Prime 3 review because it was written from a mainstream perspective. They pointed out to their average mainstream audience that Metroid probably isn't the Wii game for them if they don't know "the rules" of a Metroid game -- just think of trying to teach a non-gamer how to play Metroid compared to Wii Sports. In the case of The Simpsons Game, Variety goes and recommends an average game because they believe the writing could sustain their mainstreamer through the experience. While we frequently put gameplay above story, Variety and more mainstream pubs might see things reversed. It may not be all that simple, but it's plain to see that reviews can be influenced by the audiences they're written for.
Reader Comments (31)
Posted: Nov 9th 2007 2:18AM (Unverified) said
Forget Variety, some little pissant site gave MP3 a 6/10 within about the past week. I believe its time to go all AO on their asses with my trusty pair of rusty pliers.
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Posted: Nov 9th 2007 2:25AM PoisonedAl said
"To put it in "Simpsons" vernacular: Funniest. Videogame. Ever."
Clearly. Ever. Played. Portal.
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Clearly. Ever. Played. Portal.
Posted: Nov 9th 2007 3:20AM Vordus said
Or any Tim Schafer game, either. Or the old Infocom Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy game.
Saying 'The Simpsons Game' is the funniest game ever is like saying that 'The Simpsons Movie' is the funniest movie ever. It's funny, but it sure as hell doesn't beat the well-written classics that people have neglected to acknowledge because they're not quite as mainstream.
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Saying 'The Simpsons Game' is the funniest game ever is like saying that 'The Simpsons Movie' is the funniest movie ever. It's funny, but it sure as hell doesn't beat the well-written classics that people have neglected to acknowledge because they're not quite as mainstream.
Posted: Nov 9th 2007 12:29PM PoisonedAl said
I know. Being dyslexic you'd think I'd proof read what I type, but I don't and I fail :(
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Posted: Nov 9th 2007 3:08AM (Unverified) said
may i have a moment of silence?
rrod ...
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time to put some more money into this pc of mine ... it will be a long month.
and if any of you pc gamers have an answer to this question ... it will be much appreciated:
I hav SLI mobo w/ XFXGeForce 6800 XT, would it be a good idea to SLI this or are the gains minimal? 2 Gb OCZ ram, 3200+ athlon processor. any help is appreciated ... i might go for Orange Box to tide me over, but i'd have to skip those achievements.
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rrod ...
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time to put some more money into this pc of mine ... it will be a long month.
and if any of you pc gamers have an answer to this question ... it will be much appreciated:
I hav SLI mobo w/ XFXGeForce 6800 XT, would it be a good idea to SLI this or are the gains minimal? 2 Gb OCZ ram, 3200+ athlon processor. any help is appreciated ... i might go for Orange Box to tide me over, but i'd have to skip those achievements.
Posted: Nov 9th 2007 4:21AM (Unverified) said
SLI gains are pretty minimal. With the 6800 you'd be better off buying a whole new videocard.
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Posted: Nov 9th 2007 4:25AM (Unverified) said
thanks, 12 months ago 6800 was affordable top-o-theline, what should i upgrade to for the most gain at minimal cost? 360 should be back in a month.
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Posted: Nov 9th 2007 8:16AM (Unverified) said
It depends on your resolution. 1280x1024/1440x900 a 8600 would be more than enough. If you're at 1680x1050/1600x1200 resolution a 8800GT should be ok. Anything higher get a 8800GTS/GTX.
I'm a nvidia whore. Don't really know about ATI/AMD.
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I'm a nvidia whore. Don't really know about ATI/AMD.
Posted: Nov 9th 2007 8:29AM (Unverified) said
NO relevant hardware advice, but the PC version of Orange Box has achievements. They're all managed through Steam. The only difference is that you don't get points.
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Posted: Nov 9th 2007 4:55AM Asgeras said
What? Magazines playing to their audience *shock, gasp*.
Shoot, Famitsu has even flat out confirmed that they pander to their audience. If I remember correctly, they pretty much said that they wouldn't give a mainstream Final Fantasy game a low score, even if they didn't enjoy it very much, thanks to the fact that everyone in Japan is so desperate for Final Fantasy that they don't have qualms with drinking horrid tasting Final Fantasy "Potions".
I could go on, but that's probably the best example for gaming, since everyone pretty much touts Famitsu as a relatively spot on publication.
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Shoot, Famitsu has even flat out confirmed that they pander to their audience. If I remember correctly, they pretty much said that they wouldn't give a mainstream Final Fantasy game a low score, even if they didn't enjoy it very much, thanks to the fact that everyone in Japan is so desperate for Final Fantasy that they don't have qualms with drinking horrid tasting Final Fantasy "Potions".
I could go on, but that's probably the best example for gaming, since everyone pretty much touts Famitsu as a relatively spot on publication.
Posted: Nov 9th 2007 5:09AM masterinsan0 said
That's no different than any other gaming mag. Final Fantasy is to Japan as Halo 3 is to the US, and the reviews for it work the same here too. Even if the reviewers don't enjoy it very much, they're still going to give the game a good rating, because apparently everyone in the US is so desperate for Halo that they don't have a problem paying $60 for a cat helmet.
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Posted: Nov 9th 2007 8:19AM (Unverified) said
wait... I thought dragon quest > final fantasy in Japan... and FF was more of a western rpg title or something
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Posted: Nov 9th 2007 7:37AM (Unverified) said
This begs the question - are game critics too wrapped up in their own paradigm of jaded, self-congratulatory witticisms to see the value of a solid game that promotes its own agenda successfully even if it's not 'evolutionary or revolutionary'?
How ejaculatory were blog and web game critics over Mario Kart DS, when pretty much the only thing new there was online play? Or any of the other rehash/sequel/revamped vintage gameplay titles Nintendo has trotted out for their latest handheld?
No, I'm not ragging Nintendo - I own Advance Wars 3 - er, DS - along with a couple dozen other games on my Wii and DS. But there IS a nerdland bellcurve going on, where 'cool' or 'vogue' titles DEFINITELY get the ratings boost among this community of online critics.
Simpsons just doesn't hit the curve right now, so there's a lot of 'meh' from the Comic-Book-Guy-Types for its relative lack of 'innovation' (since when did that really mandate a better game, anyway?)...
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How ejaculatory were blog and web game critics over Mario Kart DS, when pretty much the only thing new there was online play? Or any of the other rehash/sequel/revamped vintage gameplay titles Nintendo has trotted out for their latest handheld?
No, I'm not ragging Nintendo - I own Advance Wars 3 - er, DS - along with a couple dozen other games on my Wii and DS. But there IS a nerdland bellcurve going on, where 'cool' or 'vogue' titles DEFINITELY get the ratings boost among this community of online critics.
Simpsons just doesn't hit the curve right now, so there's a lot of 'meh' from the Comic-Book-Guy-Types for its relative lack of 'innovation' (since when did that really mandate a better game, anyway?)...
Posted: Nov 9th 2007 10:02AM (Unverified) said
Yeah, I totally agree. I read/watch reviews now just to see what the game is like and if it would be worth renting/buying. I don't care about the reviewers opinion - especially because, like most critics, they're too involved in their own industry to play a game without those critical lenses. I hate music and movie reviews too. They all sound like diatribes on why music sucks nowadays (if the cd is bad) or if the cd is good, it sounds like this really obscure band from the 70s (to toot their own horn on how much more knowledgable they are about music than you). And movie reviews work the same way, except that they throw in lots of bad puns in their reviews ("Bee Movie soars high among the buzz").
God damn. Now I'm mad.
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God damn. Now I'm mad.
Posted: Nov 9th 2007 7:41AM Korova Pamplona said
Maybe I am not awake yet, but that was a pretty confusing post. I sort of get it: gamer mags are for performance gamers and Variety is for casual gamers. They have different tastes and different recommendations. I am not much of a performance gamer myself so I need stronger writing and easy (intuitive) controls to pull me through a game.
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Posted: Nov 9th 2007 9:23AM (Unverified) said
To each their own. Mainstream audiences will read the mainstream reviews and buy mediocre games and hardcore gamers will come here to make fun of them and ask for new levels of Portal.
Seriously Valve more Portal levels soon, charge me whatever you want, I will pay.
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Seriously Valve more Portal levels soon, charge me whatever you want, I will pay.
Posted: Nov 9th 2007 10:12AM (Unverified) said
I LOVED Heavenly Sword. Hands down, one of the most beautiful combat games, ever.
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Posted: Nov 9th 2007 11:21AM (Unverified) said
My mother is lucky to turn on a console, but Metroid she loves and understands the "rules" perfectly.
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Posted: Nov 9th 2007 12:53PM Jude said
I didn't initially mean to reply to you, but since I accidentally did, I might as well actually do it in that Lair did in fact suck and Halo 3 is the shit. Could it perhaps be your own bias that has blinded you?
With that in mind, is everyone entitled to their own opinions except for game reviewers?
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With that in mind, is everyone entitled to their own opinions except for game reviewers?
Posted: Nov 9th 2007 2:18PM Rax Dakkar said
How about putting the experience above gameplay, graphics and story? I know this has been said before, but Games with great gameplay and a terrible story, or terrible graphics (or vice versa) just don't end up being as good. And a reat story/ graphics can really help average gameplay, and again, vice versa.
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