C'mon, you can tell us. You're an addict, aren't you? You've got a 40K gamerscore and you simply can't justify any gaming time if, well ... you aren't being compensated for it. Bad news then, junkie. The recently announced Xbox Originals (downloadable versions of original Xbox games) won't have achievements. It all makes sense if you think about it: these are unaltered disc images. If they didn't see fit to go in and remove things like demos or trailers that could actually crash your 360 if you select them, it stands to reason they weren't going to add achievements.
Now, the good news. Your gamertag won't be permanently sullied with achievement-related proof that you were playing Blinx 2: Masters of Time and Space. Seriously, what's wrong with you?
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Reader Comments (55)
Posted: Nov 16th 2007 12:36PM (Unverified) said
It's official: The Xbox 360 is just two Xboxes duct taped together.
~HotShotX
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~HotShotX
Posted: Nov 16th 2007 12:37PM (Unverified) said
1.5 Xboxes... 2 Xboxes would have had WAY more storage at launch!
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Posted: Nov 16th 2007 12:46PM (Unverified) said
Original XBOX hard drive was 8GB, then later they bumped it up to 10GB.
Neither of those two numbers added to itself is greater than 20.
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Neither of those two numbers added to itself is greater than 20.
Posted: Nov 16th 2007 1:15PM (Unverified) said
Last I checked, any positive number added to itself is larger than NOTHING.
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Posted: Nov 16th 2007 12:34PM (Unverified) said
The greatest achievement would be to actually buy a retail copy of the game for $10.
Of the list shown, there isn't one title that is hard to find. Give us Panzer Dragoon and we might have a winner, but so far this just seems really contrived to capture the nostalgia market that Nintendo and Sony have cornered...of course they have classic games that are 10-20 years old and actually warrant nostalgia, but whatever...
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Of the list shown, there isn't one title that is hard to find. Give us Panzer Dragoon and we might have a winner, but so far this just seems really contrived to capture the nostalgia market that Nintendo and Sony have cornered...of course they have classic games that are 10-20 years old and actually warrant nostalgia, but whatever...
Posted: Nov 16th 2007 12:36PM (Unverified) said
Maybe for you... but my quest to find a retail copy of Psychonauts for Xbox has been miserable! Though I do second the motion for Panzer Dragoon.
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Posted: Nov 16th 2007 12:40PM (Unverified) said
Really? I just a about 10 copies of it last night for $15 at the grocery store. Must not have sold well in my area.
At least you get to play it now, you're in for a treat.
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At least you get to play it now, you're in for a treat.
Posted: Nov 16th 2007 12:41PM SheppyReturns said
Panzer locks up randomly. Nothing is worse than working your way through that game, hedging the bets that hopefully it won't crash this time. I finally hooked back up the xbox when I beat the level 3 boss only to have the explosion kill the game again.
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Posted: Nov 16th 2007 12:42PM (Unverified) said
Having trouble finding Psychonauts cheap? Really?
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=psychonauts+xbox&category0=
Yeah, not too hard. eBay for the fucking win.
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http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=psychonauts+xbox&category0=
Yeah, not too hard. eBay for the fucking win.
Posted: Nov 16th 2007 5:01PM LaughingTarget said
Psychonauts is also on Steam, if you have the PC.
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Posted: Nov 16th 2007 12:34PM teamsammalone said
Kind of excited to get psychonauts themes and pics though, as dumb as that sounds.
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Posted: Nov 16th 2007 12:37PM (Unverified) said
Actually not dumb at all. Too bad the game tanked at retail. If it gets enough action as a download maybe we'll get Psychonauts 2.
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Posted: Nov 16th 2007 12:40PM (Unverified) said
So the games are buggy, have no achievements and cost $15. Sounds great.
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Posted: Nov 16th 2007 12:44PM Vegeta has a ps3 said
luckily I'm not an achievement whore so I really couldn't give a crap.
Defiantly dling Psychonauts though.
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Defiantly dling Psychonauts though.
Posted: Nov 16th 2007 2:24PM processfive said
Defiantly?
And what or whom, pray tell, are you downloading Psychonauts in defiance *of*?
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And what or whom, pray tell, are you downloading Psychonauts in defiance *of*?
Posted: Nov 16th 2007 1:16PM BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam said
Less reliable that discs? Where was that stated?
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Posted: Nov 16th 2007 2:22PM Dr Stabbingworth said
That makes no sense. All you'll be doing is downloading the iso and playing it through the 360s BC.
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Posted: Nov 16th 2007 3:09PM processfive said
I think most of us were doubtful, but hopeful. After all, that's the only way this is even close to sensible. I mean, really. I can pick up a used copy of any of these games for reasonably cheap, and when I decide that I'm done with the game, I can sell it. When all is said and done, net cost of the game is going to be anywhere from $0-$10.
Or I can download the game for $15, but I can't ever sell it, nor can I trade it to someone else, nor can I even GIVE IT AWAY. Net cost is always $15, which makes downloading Xbox Originals anywhere from five to fifteen dollars more expensive than just picking up a used copy of the game.
So really, if the downloadable Xbox Originals don't have any features that distinguish them from the retail copies, aside from taking up far more of the 360's already limited HD space, what's the point?
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Or I can download the game for $15, but I can't ever sell it, nor can I trade it to someone else, nor can I even GIVE IT AWAY. Net cost is always $15, which makes downloading Xbox Originals anywhere from five to fifteen dollars more expensive than just picking up a used copy of the game.
So really, if the downloadable Xbox Originals don't have any features that distinguish them from the retail copies, aside from taking up far more of the 360's already limited HD space, what's the point?
Posted: Nov 16th 2007 12:49PM (Unverified) said
Okay. What the fuck is the reason to purchase these things? They're buggy, glitched, and now offer no replay value to those who've already beat them.
Way to stiff us, Microsoft.
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Way to stiff us, Microsoft.
Posted: Nov 16th 2007 1:01PM (Unverified) said
@ mike.
Play SM64 on an emu or on an N64 hooked up to an LCD TV with the S-VHS cable.
Now go play it as a DL on the VC.
What works better for you?
Nintendo at least has the heritage a back catalog of great games that many people didn't get the chance to legally play until the Wii.
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Play SM64 on an emu or on an N64 hooked up to an LCD TV with the S-VHS cable.
Now go play it as a DL on the VC.
What works better for you?
Nintendo at least has the heritage a back catalog of great games that many people didn't get the chance to legally play until the Wii.
Posted: Nov 16th 2007 2:26PM Vidikron said
@Obie
The games from the discs are going to have the same glitches except the demos and extra videos will work. Hard drive space is an issue, but it is very convenient to be able to play games straight from the HDD without having to use discs. If I already owned the disc I wouldn't rebuy these games, but I haven't played the games before I would be interested.
I really don't know why people are griping so much about this, it seems like a great service. My only complaint is I think they should remove the links in the menus to the demos and videos instead of allowing the game to crash. That just seems lazy... but other than that I don't see the problem. if you want to use the disc, just buy one... why complain when you have the option to go either way?
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The games from the discs are going to have the same glitches except the demos and extra videos will work. Hard drive space is an issue, but it is very convenient to be able to play games straight from the HDD without having to use discs. If I already owned the disc I wouldn't rebuy these games, but I haven't played the games before I would be interested.
I really don't know why people are griping so much about this, it seems like a great service. My only complaint is I think they should remove the links in the menus to the demos and videos instead of allowing the game to crash. That just seems lazy... but other than that I don't see the problem. if you want to use the disc, just buy one... why complain when you have the option to go either way?
Posted: Nov 16th 2007 2:43PM (Unverified) said
To purchase an aged rehash with all its flaws and no corrections seems absolutely absurd to me. It's great for people who missed out on certain games (I get to try Psychonauts now) but... meh.
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Posted: Nov 16th 2007 12:50PM (Unverified) said
I guess I don't know why anyone would expect them to have achievements. They're not going to go back and edit the code, for god's sake. Do you know how much time and effort that would take? Not to mention the fact that they don't HAVE the code for anything but first party games. They're purely giving the disc images for use with an emulator, that's all.
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Posted: Nov 16th 2007 12:53PM (Unverified) said
No one should be complaining right now... 360 has so many new games that just overloaded onto it in the past couple of months that should have you playing well into next year. Mass Effect, Call of Duty 4, Halo 3, Assassin's Creed, NFS: Pro Street, PGR4, and so much more. Just the fact the Xbox 1 games are coming out barely even matters to me. It's a new generation, I want to play new games not old ones.
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Posted: Nov 16th 2007 12:56PM (Unverified) said
I don't know why anyone expected there to be achievements on these games.
Achievement unlocked: "Paying double what it would cost to buy the disc brand new."
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Achievement unlocked: "Paying double what it would cost to buy the disc brand new."
Posted: Nov 16th 2007 1:14PM (Unverified) said
Step 1: Make old xbox games easily found as actual discs available for download.
Step 2:
Step 3: Profit.
Did anyone expect MS (or anyone else really) to do anything other than the bare minimum to bring these games out as downloads? Any work to make them bug-free or add achievements... well, that just would have cost them more money.
The only one I'd buy as a download instead of finding a used disc is Psychonauts, basically to show support for the game that I know will be counted. I loaned my ps2 copy to a friend who in turn loaned it to one of their friends... I guess at least other people actually played the game, just wish they would have also bought a copy when they realized how bloody brilliant it was.
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Step 2:
Step 3: Profit.
Did anyone expect MS (or anyone else really) to do anything other than the bare minimum to bring these games out as downloads? Any work to make them bug-free or add achievements... well, that just would have cost them more money.
The only one I'd buy as a download instead of finding a used disc is Psychonauts, basically to show support for the game that I know will be counted. I loaned my ps2 copy to a friend who in turn loaned it to one of their friends... I guess at least other people actually played the game, just wish they would have also bought a copy when they realized how bloody brilliant it was.
Posted: Nov 16th 2007 2:26PM Dr Stabbingworth said
They know enough uninformed people will download copies from this service to make it profitable. It's just like the VC in that there is almost zero overhead. The difference is VC games are often rare or outrageously expensive to buy actual carts of.
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Posted: Nov 16th 2007 1:31PM (Unverified) said
Am I the only one who thought Blinx 2 was a good game?!
Wait. Don't point those guns at me.
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Wait. Don't point those guns at me.
Posted: Nov 16th 2007 2:15PM llllFlREBlRDllll said
I personally hope that Silent Hill 2 manages to become a downloadable XBO game. This game is legendary, the atmosphere and the foes are creepy, and if you play it at night, it becomes one of the games that can unexpectingly scare the hell out of you. I love it because of that and many other reasons.
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Posted: Nov 16th 2007 2:41PM (Unverified) said
It probably thinks you're trying to do some html voodoo.
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Posted: Nov 16th 2007 2:27PM (Unverified) said
This is all i want M$, but not for $15 dollars.
Otogi
Otogi 2
Jet Set Radio Future
Phantom Dust
Panzer The Dragoon Orta
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Otogi
Otogi 2
Jet Set Radio Future
Phantom Dust
Panzer The Dragoon Orta
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