The Wii Zapper/Link's Crossbow Training bundle drops tomorrow -- a relatively surreptitious release considering some of the other holiday giants coming out this week. However, something tells us that the political backlash to Nintendo's kinda-gun-shaped-but-not-really peripheral will be anything but furtive -- and Washington Post writer Monica Hesse agrees.
In her article, she gives a brief history of toy guns, and how the Zapper fits into the grand saga of controversial faux weaponry. Some of her sources are firmly opposed to the idea of bringing a gun attachment to the otherwise kid-friendly system, but we feel that 14-year-old Damian Crisafulli's response to paranoid parents is the most insightful soundbite in the whole story: "It's plastic that clips to a video game controller." Well said, Damian.
[Via GamePolitics]
Reader Comments (83)
Posted: Nov 18th 2007 6:01PM BananaBoat said
Me and my friends used to run around the neighborhood and shoot realistic looking cap (at around age 5) and later airsoft/paintball guns at each other, and noone ever said a word.
Try it now and you'd get pwned so fast.
Try it now and you'd get pwned so fast.
Posted: Nov 18th 2007 6:12PM (Unverified) said
Probably to do with the increased number of kids with guns going on retarded killing sprees.
I actually don't mind the situation we're in now. Course anyone with a brain can tell if I'm running around with a NES Zapper and not a Colt (or whatever guns are these days, I don't care for them). A bit of paranoia is good for safety in my books. Just a bit though.
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I actually don't mind the situation we're in now. Course anyone with a brain can tell if I'm running around with a NES Zapper and not a Colt (or whatever guns are these days, I don't care for them). A bit of paranoia is good for safety in my books. Just a bit though.
Posted: Nov 18th 2007 6:01PM (Unverified) said
You know what's really ironic? The Guncon 3 comes out this week...yet no uproar about that. Plus it's not like we can pour Ammonia into the Wii Zapper and shoot people with it. Although I encourage anyone who thinks the Wii Zapper is bad for children to do so, and actually add Bleach to the mix as well.
Posted: Nov 18th 2007 6:04PM DrXym said
I shouldn't worry about the zapper being too gunlike. Since you can't even aim down the zapper (since the Wii can't offer pixel perfect aiming or anything close), the thing is effectively a piece of plastic crap to hold the zapper in. It's just another worthless gimmick.
It would be more interesting to see what the GunCon works like.
It would be more interesting to see what the GunCon works like.
Posted: Nov 18th 2007 6:27PM (Unverified) said
Im 100% percent sure tghat you don't have a Wii. The Wii Remote offer pixel aiming.
Its not a light gun, it's like an air mouse.
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Its not a light gun, it's like an air mouse.
Posted: Nov 18th 2007 6:29PM (Unverified) said
"... a piece of plastic crap to hold the zapper in..."
To hold the zapper in? What the fuck are you talking about, stupid noob?
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To hold the zapper in? What the fuck are you talking about, stupid noob?
Posted: Nov 19th 2007 4:11AM DrXym said
Yes I meant remote when I said zapper the last time. It doesn't alter the point. And no the Wii cannot offer pixel perfect aiming. Anyone who thinks the remote is capable of resolving your horizontal aim to a pixel is simply deluded. Even after calibration. And the vertical aim is entirely inferred from the tilt of the remote. Just standing up or down, or moving slightly will alter the position. Fernando, if you're such a genius, maybe you can explain why the zapper has no iron sight? Why do Wii games display a reticule on screen if aiming is that accurate? Because it isn't accurate and fanboys like you are deluding yourself if you think it is.
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Posted: Nov 19th 2007 9:29AM Crono141 said
If you mean its not a light gun, then you're right. But the wii has more than enough accuracy to be pixel perfect on the SDTV it was designed for. The wiimotes IR sensor is a 1024x768 digital "camera". So when the points of the sensor bar move 1 pixels worth from the cameras perspective, it'll move less than that pixels worth on the screen.
Even the wireless light guns back in the SNES days weren't pixel perfect, and if you moved from the calibration position, it'd screw up your aim.
So you're really bitching about the norm here.
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Even the wireless light guns back in the SNES days weren't pixel perfect, and if you moved from the calibration position, it'd screw up your aim.
So you're really bitching about the norm here.
Posted: Nov 18th 2007 6:27PM (Unverified) said
Forget kids, just keep these things away from the bovine population!
http://www.cowswithguns.com/cowmovie.html
http://www.cowswithguns.com/cowmovie.html
Posted: Nov 18th 2007 6:40PM Eugimon said
There’s so much comedy on television. Does that cause comedy in the streets?
-Dick Cavett
-Dick Cavett
Posted: Nov 18th 2007 7:12PM freelance said
This is the Washington Post stretching it. The reason that monstrosity is so freaking ugly is so it doesn't look gun like, and it doesn't.
Posted: Nov 18th 2007 7:50PM Just A Canuck said
wow, when will parents learn that they DONT HAVE TO BUY things like these if they dont feel there kids should have them...
jesus, they cant think for themselves anymore....
jesus, they cant think for themselves anymore....
Posted: Nov 18th 2007 8:40PM (Unverified) said
1. I remember that when Columbine happened I was just graduating high school, and my friends and I went to buy Nerf guns to toy around with in the dorms. But Nerf discontinued 90% of their "real" looking guns after Columbine, and haven't brought them back until now.
2. When I was in middle school our school bus got pulled over and searched because some lady reported seeing a kid with a gun get on it. Eventually they found.... a 1.5 foot long pink and yellow laser tag rifle.
2. When I was in middle school our school bus got pulled over and searched because some lady reported seeing a kid with a gun get on it. Eventually they found.... a 1.5 foot long pink and yellow laser tag rifle.
Posted: Nov 18th 2007 9:15PM Sinth said
We should probably ban remote controls while we're at it. I know that my Dish Network control has a button that lights up red when changing the channel. Someone might mistaken that for muzzle flash!
Posted: Nov 18th 2007 11:00PM (Unverified) said
Uh... synner obviously that's the joke... the zapper doesn't look like a gun either
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Posted: Nov 18th 2007 10:15PM ThornedVenom said
Parents, don't buy dangerous Wii Zappers for your kids, buy them BB guns!
From personal experience, when kids don't have their own toys to compensate for something, they create their own (they don't have a plastic sword? carve your own stick!). I'd rather have my kid play with a safer and lighter plastic shell than to have them carry bits of heavy splintery wood into the house.
From personal experience, when kids don't have their own toys to compensate for something, they create their own (they don't have a plastic sword? carve your own stick!). I'd rather have my kid play with a safer and lighter plastic shell than to have them carry bits of heavy splintery wood into the house.
Posted: Nov 18th 2007 10:22PM The Last Metroid said
So I guess arcades that actually have controllers as a shape of a gun are ok? (House of the Dead, Time Crisis, Ghost Squad, etc.)
Posted: Nov 18th 2007 11:26PM (Unverified) said
I work at some Toys R Us located in texas in a town where some musician was born.
We got some crazy policy about not selling guns that are realistic, this includes old west style guns. However NERF guns, and guns of the space fantasy variety are ok. Medieval Swords...for some reason...are okay too.
This whole Wii Zapper ordeal is an obvious non-issue though. Parents that actually care about this are in the minority compared to the parents I've talked to where I've been asked if we have any cowboy guns for a two year old.
Also, we don't sell kites.
We got some crazy policy about not selling guns that are realistic, this includes old west style guns. However NERF guns, and guns of the space fantasy variety are ok. Medieval Swords...for some reason...are okay too.
This whole Wii Zapper ordeal is an obvious non-issue though. Parents that actually care about this are in the minority compared to the parents I've talked to where I've been asked if we have any cowboy guns for a two year old.
Also, we don't sell kites.
Posted: Nov 19th 2007 1:19AM (Unverified) said
umhello, you had a great line with that 'god didn't save your princess' but then you ruined it by putting your tail between your legs and apologizing like a pussy as soon as one person called you 'rude'
it's that same attitude of only saying 'safe' things that leads to parents banning anything vaguely shaped like an L... and eventually to nazi germany.
it's that same attitude of only saying 'safe' things that leads to parents banning anything vaguely shaped like an L... and eventually to nazi germany.
Posted: Nov 19th 2007 2:50AM Cyrs said
Only a mentally ill person would go off and harm others because of some video game they played. If by some chance that were to happen it's the parents/guardians fault for not monitoring their kids "properly"(most issues start from home). Ill-equipped minds shouldn't be subject to certain material. If parents do their job and teach kids real from fake, then there won't be anything to talk about. It is a parent's job to make sure kids don't get a game not rated in their age group. This parent vs game industry crap is so annoying. I bet the same parents who let their 10year olds play Halo online while cursing like they're drunk men in their 50s, are the ones complaining.
The Wii zapper looks nothing like a gun, so I don't see the problem here. If the article was referring to the guncon 3 now, the "looks-like" a gun comment would be a little more valid.
The Wii zapper looks nothing like a gun, so I don't see the problem here. If the article was referring to the guncon 3 now, the "looks-like" a gun comment would be a little more valid.
Posted: Nov 19th 2007 4:23AM (Unverified) said
Is this thing only for America?
Nobody would have cared about its shape if gun crimes had not been so rampant.
Nobody would have cared about its shape if gun crimes had not been so rampant.
Posted: Nov 19th 2007 4:27AM (Unverified) said
Did you know: Ralph Baer who invented the first (except the tennis thing) real videogames for his "brown box", including pong, did already have a working light gun, made of a plastic winchester-rifle toy. So this stuff is nearly as old as videogames, and now they start complaining?
Posted: Nov 19th 2007 7:55PM (Unverified) said
And the original zapper, what was that? That one didn't look like a gun at all! I guess that is why they didn't care back in the day?
Posted: Nov 19th 2007 11:24AM (Unverified) said
I plan to buy a Zapper, paint the Zapper black, and then go on a robbing spree. Everyone will, of course, believe I am using a real gun.
Posted: Nov 19th 2007 11:27AM Batzarro The worlds WOrst Detect said
I AM A PARENT THAT IS OFFENDED BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY WANT TO SELL MY CHILD PLEASE JOIN ME IN A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT WE CANT ALLOW THEM TO SELL THING THAT LOOK LIKE MELTED GUNS TO OUR CHILDREN0100010101010101010
Mama Batzarro taught me real from fake and right from wrong. And despite me actually wanting to harm some idiots(middle high school was a LOW point in my life) I didn't. Because I could tell It would have had consequenses. So I held up taking glue in the hair, slobered lollipops in my uniform and duct tape balls in my eyes until I graduated.
Mama Batzarro taught me real from fake and right from wrong. And despite me actually wanting to harm some idiots(middle high school was a LOW point in my life) I didn't. Because I could tell It would have had consequenses. So I held up taking glue in the hair, slobered lollipops in my uniform and duct tape balls in my eyes until I graduated.
Posted: Nov 19th 2007 4:47PM (Unverified) said
First of all I find this incredibly ironic comming out of a country where real guns seem to be an item in every household. A country where real guns a glamourised. It seems to me that a plastic toy is not the problem.
Even without that, parents are afraid of a piece of plastic? I bet there are 100 other toys in a toy store that look much more like a real gun, and they are intended to be pointed a t a childs friend, where as the wii zapper is pointed at a screen. Are they going to try to ban all of those toys too? Are parents so dumb that they think they have to buy it if they dont like it? Don't try to ban it for everyone else then, I'm 25 and I'm going to get one of these for myself. If you don't like zapper, don't buy it for your kids - you are the parent right? Perhaps if you were a good parent your child would know about the rights and wrongs.
why do dumb people also feel the need to go some crusade? we'll i'm glad they do, it helps me recognise the dumb ones from the people that actually have some form of independant thought.
Even without that, parents are afraid of a piece of plastic? I bet there are 100 other toys in a toy store that look much more like a real gun, and they are intended to be pointed a t a childs friend, where as the wii zapper is pointed at a screen. Are they going to try to ban all of those toys too? Are parents so dumb that they think they have to buy it if they dont like it? Don't try to ban it for everyone else then, I'm 25 and I'm going to get one of these for myself. If you don't like zapper, don't buy it for your kids - you are the parent right? Perhaps if you were a good parent your child would know about the rights and wrongs.
why do dumb people also feel the need to go some crusade? we'll i'm glad they do, it helps me recognise the dumb ones from the people that actually have some form of independant thought.
Posted: Nov 19th 2007 11:23PM (Unverified) said
I guess really the only way to tell if the wii zapper resembles a gun if for someone to try and rob a bank with it. If they can get out of there before their batteries run dry then perhaps its too dangerous
go go dumb people that have 10 babies ! idiocracy is really happening - global warming is nothing compared to this.
go go dumb people that have 10 babies ! idiocracy is really happening - global warming is nothing compared to this.
Posted: Nov 27th 2007 7:30PM (Unverified) said
What a pathetic, scared society we live in. All anyone talks about is PROTECTING THE KIDS! Let's just turn our entire culture into a frightened, protective cocoon and attempt to keep any unpleasantness from the spawn of left-wing asses. Then our enemies can just waltz in and take over, since nobody will have learned how to defend themselves or our nation.
By the way, aggressiveness is an evolutionary trait that ensures survival. Let's not vitiate our natural tendencies solely to prevent the demon spawn of the BREEDERS from encountering any unpleasantness.
By the way, aggressiveness is an evolutionary trait that ensures survival. Let's not vitiate our natural tendencies solely to prevent the demon spawn of the BREEDERS from encountering any unpleasantness.
Posted: Jan 9th 2008 10:18PM (Unverified) said
Sorry for posting on something from mid November but felt I had to after reading Synner's comment that
'brits prefer the nanny state'
Don't imagine for one minute the majority do, or that we can decide how much we are nannied - anymore than you can in the US. There was no public vote to ban hand guns here, the advice of experts was ignored and as always the government did what it wanted - hoping to ride the media frenzy to get a few extra votes. A few years back the US government banned certain high capacity weapons, was there anything you could do about it that would make a difference? Did the constitution prevent it? No. Its only because the NRA ponies up lots of cash that guns are protected at all in the US. The very second the anti-gun lobby makes a better bid and its adios 2nd amendment.
Basically, in both the US and UK, the government can do what it likes and what can you do about it? Your sum input to democracy is to every few years vote for one candidate out of a list of a few people with largely similar backgrounds & views with the attitude of say whatever will get them in power. I guess you could 'vote from the rooftops' but the government has a heck of a lot more firepower and a populace willing to shrug and say 'its the law' if it gives them an easy life.
If a politician thinks they can get get the votes of paranoid parents who'd rather blame video games than accept that some parents/school environments are destructive then they'll get on their high horse. So what if they ruin the fun of millions of law-abiding harmless folk - as long as it doesn't stop them from whatever they like doing. There are plenty of nuts wanting their 15 minutes of fame by blaming X for Y and as long as it sells papers they'll get their spotlight.
So this brings us to the Wii Zapper which is clearly designed to be gunish enough to fill the niche but un-gunlike enough (more like a poor crossbow) to not raise too many hackles. Thanks God that Nyo and other companies still have the balls to make an add-on that unashamedly looks like an actual gun.
'brits prefer the nanny state'
Don't imagine for one minute the majority do, or that we can decide how much we are nannied - anymore than you can in the US. There was no public vote to ban hand guns here, the advice of experts was ignored and as always the government did what it wanted - hoping to ride the media frenzy to get a few extra votes. A few years back the US government banned certain high capacity weapons, was there anything you could do about it that would make a difference? Did the constitution prevent it? No. Its only because the NRA ponies up lots of cash that guns are protected at all in the US. The very second the anti-gun lobby makes a better bid and its adios 2nd amendment.
Basically, in both the US and UK, the government can do what it likes and what can you do about it? Your sum input to democracy is to every few years vote for one candidate out of a list of a few people with largely similar backgrounds & views with the attitude of say whatever will get them in power. I guess you could 'vote from the rooftops' but the government has a heck of a lot more firepower and a populace willing to shrug and say 'its the law' if it gives them an easy life.
If a politician thinks they can get get the votes of paranoid parents who'd rather blame video games than accept that some parents/school environments are destructive then they'll get on their high horse. So what if they ruin the fun of millions of law-abiding harmless folk - as long as it doesn't stop them from whatever they like doing. There are plenty of nuts wanting their 15 minutes of fame by blaming X for Y and as long as it sells papers they'll get their spotlight.
So this brings us to the Wii Zapper which is clearly designed to be gunish enough to fill the niche but un-gunlike enough (more like a poor crossbow) to not raise too many hackles. Thanks God that Nyo and other companies still have the balls to make an add-on that unashamedly looks like an actual gun.
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