1UP talks turkey games
by Scott Jon Siegel 
{ Nov 22nd 2007 at 4:01PM }
We can't say we agree with all of the choices presented, though 1UP's criteria suggests that the games featured aren't necessarily "bad," but that all of them "fell short of expectations."
Still, given the sheer number of games out there, there are bound to be bigger, badder turkeys hiding in the bushes. Any more main-course nominees?
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Ihar `Philips` Filipau @ Nov 22nd 2007 4:13PM
> massively-hyped titles that ultimately fizzled.
... Mario Galaxy?
Chaotic (FDF - Fry) @ Nov 22nd 2007 4:22PM
No. More like Oblivion.
Winman2000 @ Nov 22nd 2007 4:25PM
lol wut
Vegeta (aka Ska Oreo) @ Nov 22nd 2007 4:51PM
hahahahah. You're funny.
Fullmetal Salchemist @ Nov 22nd 2007 5:46PM
Ultimately fizzled? Yeah, that's why it's the highest-rated game of the last three console generations.
Trolling attempt utterly failed.
Fernando Rocker @ Nov 22nd 2007 5:52PM
Filipau
Owned
Keep folding proteins.
Blast Processing Megadrive @ Nov 22nd 2007 6:15PM
Sheesh, Fernando. I thought you were gonna turn over a new leaf. But here I see you making the same trolling comments as usual.
You bring shame and disgrace to Nintendo fans everywhere.
Also, Fullmetal Salchemist:
http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp?rankings=y
Ocarina of Time took back its top spot (as more reviews were added, Galaxy dropped a few percentage points).
Better luck next time, Nintendo. I'm sure you'll be able to beat... yourself... eventually.
Heh... I really can't argue with any of the games on that top 10 (except for the fact Orange Box is on there TWICE, even though it is REALLY good... But Half-Life 2 is there as well, which is included in the Orange Box... Hmmm).
Ihar `Philips` Filipau @ Nov 22nd 2007 6:30PM
I don't give a damn about ratings. If everybody jumps from cliff - will you too?
I'm plain Wii owner who simply wants more games.
I tried Metroid, I tried Mario - but *TOO BAD!* they hardly registered as games: too boring and too repetitive. Clear lack of entertainment, diversity and new experience.
Not that I expect NWN (or HoAE or CivIV or Doom3 or HoMM5) class and scale game on Wii, but well, something comparable will be welcome ^_^
Blast Processing Megadrive @ Nov 22nd 2007 6:41PM
The hell? You think Prime and Mario are boring... But you think Doom 3 was good?!
While I'm all for difference of opinions... Doom 3 was a lot of pretty with little game behind it. The original Doom was more fun than Doom 3!
Geist @ Nov 22nd 2007 8:45PM
For a minute, I thought "Alright, he has a different opinion, that's fine." Then you said that Doom 3 had class and scale. No.
Jason @ Nov 22nd 2007 4:21PM
I can't believe they did not list Halo 3, if there was ever a game that could not live upto the hype, this is surely it..
Vegeta (aka Ska Oreo) @ Nov 22nd 2007 4:53PM
Then why not just list every game in existance on that list.
NO GAME WILL EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER live up to it's hype.
And unlike Lair, Halo 3 didn't fizzle. It was still a good game.
finnith @ Nov 22nd 2007 4:55PM
No game can live up to the hype that halo had.
Obie @ Nov 22nd 2007 5:31PM
More like Halo 2! What a letdown!
Lekko @ Nov 22nd 2007 5:53PM
I agree but only on the part of the single player. The multiplayer is great, the single player was lousy.
fester @ Nov 22nd 2007 4:25PM
The new AREA 51- shitty, fugly graphics. [sniff] Assholes!
Kassu @ Nov 22nd 2007 4:28PM
I expected to see Oblivion on the list, because I found it a very dissapointing game. The first ~15 hours were great, but then i realised that all the other gameplay elements besides combat, suck as stealing are either piss-easy or really pointless and all the quests were like - Get the quest, ask around, spy on target, get a location of a cave marked on your map, go there, kill everything, take some evidence with you while casting feather so you can carry all the shit you got to the first shop you can find, claim your useless reward, sell the shit you got, repeat.
Kassu @ Nov 22nd 2007 4:28PM
Such as stealing*
Not suck as stealing
Typos suck.
Geist @ Nov 22nd 2007 8:46PM
I totally agree. At first, I was all "Shit this is amazing, I can do ANYTHING!" until I realized that 'anything' meant getting a quest, going into a dungeon and killing everything inside, and then reaching my quest. Repeated a hundred times. Ugggh.
Markusdragon @ Nov 22nd 2007 4:36PM
Seriously? Shenmue 2? Bollocks to that; it was a bloody masterpiece.
Kendrick @ Nov 22nd 2007 5:40PM
Shenmue 2 was great as a Dreamcast release. But as an Xbox exclusive in the United States, it was out-of-date and presented to exactly the wrong audience. I'm the biggest Shenmue fan there is, and even I acknowledge that there was no way for Shenmue 2 to find an honored place in the Xbox library. I do agree with the thought that Yakuza models a decent game for future expansion, if the next Shenmue game ever takes shape.
tmacairjordan87 @ Nov 22nd 2007 4:47PM
the fact that halo 3 is not on the list automatically makes that article not credible, but then again...their credibility has been all but destroyed anyway
Vegeta (aka Ska Oreo) @ Nov 22nd 2007 4:55PM
sigh,
Or maybe, and this may be a shocker to you, they actually enjoyed Halo?
I know it's blasphemous to think that someone's opinion may differ from your own, but it happens.
Dopple Boppler @ Nov 22nd 2007 4:47PM
Seems a tad bit early to be putting putting Assassin's Creed on this list, but then again I haven't played it.
Geist @ Nov 22nd 2007 8:48PM
I just did earlier today. Imagine this: Grand Theft Auto is released, but there is only one type of car, every couple hundred of feet, and you can only get it to go between cities. There are only a couple different types of side missions, all received and executed in exactly the same way. You can flip and jump all over the city, which is cool, but when it comes to fighting cops, you have two options: run until you find some place to hide or beat all of them up with button-mashing. Ehhh.
KingOfGods @ Nov 23rd 2007 3:19AM
The fighting is more than just one button mashing, the fighting is all about timing. Sure you can mash the button until the guard is dead but if you found an exploit in the fighting mechanics of the game, who are you really cheating by not playing the game the way it was designed?
Play it the way it's meant to be played and immerse yourself in the action and it truly is an enjoyable game.
KHCloud @ Nov 22nd 2007 4:48PM
Halo 2 was more of a **** up then Halo 3.
Vegeta (aka Ska Oreo) @ Nov 22nd 2007 4:56PM
sigh,
So I guess this thread is just going to be a bunch of fanboys screaming, "BAAAAAAWWWWWWW!!!!!! I DON'T AGREE WITH YOUR OPINION SO YOUR WRONG!!!!"
Gavin @ Nov 22nd 2007 8:32PM
Then stop posting and visit another friggin' site already.
Noshino @ Nov 22nd 2007 9:17PM
that's ironic Vegeta, because you seem to don't like the fact that people also disagree with your way of thinking about this matter...
Vegeta (aka Ska Oreo) @ Nov 22nd 2007 10:59PM
Oh no (and perhaps I should have made myself much more clearer) you got it all wrong. I'm not saying you shouldn't disagree with other people's opinion (it's normal and hell, it's why this website was basically created). What I am saying is (and quite alot of you have proven to do this) is basically call people incompetent dumbasses, who are in some way bias, or in someway lying to rile up the gaming community.
Of course my post was more of a reaction post towards tmacairjordan87 post. And usually when one person says it, it ultimately leads to 10 pages of people bitching and complaining that in some way, each gaming website is a liar that shouldn't be trusted.
tmacairjordan87 @ Nov 22nd 2007 4:57PM
they enjoyed most of the games on that list, it's about being overrated and as MOST of us know, halo 3 takes the overrated crown
tmacairjordan87 @ Nov 22nd 2007 4:58PM
reply system fails
thenino85 @ Nov 22nd 2007 4:58PM
You guys are missing the point of Oblivion entirely. It's not an RPG. Really, it's not. Yes, it's a fantasy game. Yes, it has magic and trolls and stats. But it's not an RPG. The best way I ever heard of explaining what Oblivion actually is was a "lifestyle simulator." The point of the game, and where it really becomes a thing of beauty, is when you start to play it not like a video game where you have to do quest X to get to quest Y to get phat lewtz Z, but as though you were actually a person interacting with the Oblivion world. In this way, Oblivion, a single player game, succeeds at what every MMORPG has tried and failed to do. Trust me, I've played way more MMORPGs than is physically healthy. Stop trying to win the game, and start participating in it. Don't try to beat every quest line. Don't try to raid every ancient ruin. How much of the game you've completed is meaningless. Try to advance in the world as an adventurer would. It's imperfect at times, yes, but it's a priceless experience when it finally "clicks." That's what the game was programmed to be. It's insane the minor details put into the game, not because they affect gameplay at all, but because they help immerse you in the game. I'm normally the type that hates suspension of disbelief. I don't watch very many movies because of it. But with Oblivion, you are rewarded richly when you immerse yourself in the game. At times it does fail because it's too ambitious, but honestly, do you expect it to be a perfect alternative reality? I realize it's not many people's type of game. I'm fine with that. But don't criticize the game simply because it's not another dungeon crawler, or it's not another JRPG. It would be like claiming that Mario Sunshine sucked because it totally wasn't a FPS. I'm normally not a fanboy like this, but Oblivion is a radical experiment in an industry that is desperately in need of fresh air. We don't need games with better stories or better voice acting, if the underlying game is still the same basic type that we've had for 20+ years. We need games that break the mold. Games that completely change the way you look at the video gaming hobby. Oblivion was that game for me.
Anyway, am I the only person that liked MGS2? Yeah, the last hour of the game sucked, and all the talking was annoying. But the core of the game was really fun, even though you were playing The One Effeminate Hero To Rule Them All.
Admiral_Mike @ Nov 22nd 2007 5:05PM
Never ending post of doooooom!
jackbauer @ Nov 22nd 2007 5:37PM
"paraphrasing"
-making a long story short since 1965
Geist @ Nov 22nd 2007 8:55PM
I agree that MGS2 was decent, if not a little weird, especially at the end. But Oblivion was not. It was repetitive, dull, and repetitive. Also repetitive. The enemy level scaling was irritating, loot was pointless and redundant, and there was no rewarding experience for defeating powerful enemies. It just had a sense of falsity. Lifestyle simulator? I very disagree.
Oh, and if a rat has as much chance of defeating me when I'm level 1 as it does at level 20, fail.
Untamed @ Nov 23rd 2007 12:45AM
Oblivion is a masterpiece, but Morrowind surpasses it in most ways.
Blast Processing Megadrive @ Nov 23rd 2007 4:04AM
tl;dr.
jomi294 @ Nov 22nd 2007 6:18PM
Lol. I loved Metal Gear 2.
Sam406 @ Nov 22nd 2007 6:23PM
Once you got over the lack of Snake, it was a pretty good game...
...And besides I just loved when Raiden discovered a new piece of information only to have Snake go:
Raiden: (insert discovery here) you already knew about all this?!
Snake Yeah
Raiden: Why didn't you tell me?
Snake: You didn't ask
Raiden: ...
Dahk @ Nov 23rd 2007 1:09AM
Gameplay wise, visuals and soundtrack wise, and even for MOST of the story, I thought it was brilliant.
And then there were the scenes with... Huh? The La-le-lu-le-lo!? WTF.
Bluebrake @ Nov 22nd 2007 5:11PM
For the roughly half of those games that I've played, they were spot on. I suspect they're right about the rest of them, too.
James @ Nov 22nd 2007 5:12PM
My list would include everything but Orange Box (well, specifically TF2 which has me addicted) and Galaxy. Them 2 games/collections apart this year has been a little rubbish for me. But I am extremely picky when it comes to games.
Biggest turkey? Halo 3. Before I get that "everyones opinions are different" muppet on my case;
They promised us this game would be more like Halo 1. But it really wasn't. That's what got me since I was a huge fan of 1 but loathed 2. That's not opinion. That's a lie from Bungie admitting Halo 2 was broke but trying to get 1 fans interested.
Sam406 @ Nov 22nd 2007 5:33PM
ah...Super Mario Sunshine..
I think the "turkey time" for that game was the momment I realized Mario had lost his punching ability...
...And the fact that FLUDD was so conveniently located
at the start of the game for you to take for free for no aparent reason...
...Not to mention the fact that all enemies share the same weakness WATER..
..Bowser Jr.
...And the fact that ALL the levels were tropical...
...Not to mention the fact that
Sam406 @ Nov 22nd 2007 5:40PM
the last boss was fought in a BATHTUB
Blast Processing Megadrive @ Nov 22nd 2007 6:07PM
But it was one helluva nice hot tub!
(I'm pretty sure it was a hot tub, since landing in the water would drain your life... I think...)
Mr Khan @ Nov 22nd 2007 6:30PM
Without reading the article, Daikatana, Red Steel, Lair (duh), Lost Planet (not a bad game, but definitely didn't live up to what Capcom was pitching), Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 (you know, the game that was supposed to save the franchise)
Oh, and Clive Barker's Jericho
Blast Processing Megadrive @ Nov 22nd 2007 6:42PM
Daikatana, Lost Planet, Sonic 2006, and Jericho were not on the list.
Good suggestions for turkeys, though.
Steven @ Nov 22nd 2007 6:59PM
Some of the games on this list are warranted but many are truly "great" in my mind. Metal Gear Solid 2, when it was released, was fantastic and gave a movie like experience. Sure, the game had cut scenes that took up most of the game, but that doesn't change the fact that I loved every minute of it. Also, Assassins Creed may be repetitive, but it's a unique experience that is like no other. The combat is much better than they describe. It has a great flow to it, and the simple x mashing works well when you consider the blocking, counters and dodging that are mixed in.