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Posted: Nov 28th 2007 11:20AM (Unverified) said

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The only ones hating on the PS3 is Sony themselves. Everyone else just feels sorry for the darn thing.
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Posted: Nov 28th 2007 3:20PM Jacksons said

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The crappy port of The Orange Box was nothing short of a nut shot. It's a great game, I feel sorry for all the PS3-only owners that got shafted.
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Posted: Nov 28th 2007 10:58AM (Unverified) said

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umm, isn't Rock Band coming out for the PS2 soon?

Posted: Nov 28th 2007 10:58AM (Unverified) said

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I should be a CEO because I was just thinking that exact same thing.

Posted: Nov 28th 2007 11:04AM (Unverified) said

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They will be $199 when they have new $500 consoles to sell you. Happy?

Just do your job, or whatever you do, and shut up.

Also: C-E-Oh no he didn't?

Posted: Nov 28th 2007 11:09AM (Unverified) said

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Someone tell the CEO to lower the price of his games back to $50! Or wait, he probably wants the price of the system to be cheaper so that he can RAISE the price of games past $60.

Posted: Nov 28th 2007 11:10AM (Unverified) said

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i would say the second the wii begins to remain on shelves and not sell out, they need to drop the price. even if it causes them to lose some money per system, it would be nowhere near the loss of the 360 and ps3, and would solidify the wii's staying power by making it an almost no brainer of a purchase.

Posted: Nov 28th 2007 11:28AM Gun Barrier said

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hmm a $200 ps3? would that mean... no BC, cell replaced with something weaker, a wired controller, 10 GB hardrive, no games or movies, a bad paint job, and no wireless?
no... bluray still would make this version too costy.
maybe if bluray wins the format war it can finally lower its price.

Posted: Nov 28th 2007 11:35AM ummhello said

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or.....maybe Activision should make a AAA-quality game title that everyone will want to play regardless of the console's price. there's plenty of gamers that buy a system for just one (or a select few) game(s). Halo3 sold how many consoles regardless of the price of a 360?? MGS4 is going to sell how many PS3 consoles??

And DUH!! Of course ppl buy electronics at pricepoints vs. tech specs--how else do you explain the idiots that bought Toshiba's HD-DVD player just 'cuz it was $199 or less on BlackFriday??

Posted: Nov 28th 2007 11:38AM ummhello said

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...and Activision needs to make the game playable exclusively for xbox360 and/or PS3 only so that ppl buy those consoles rather than waiting for the PS2/xbox/gamecube/wii versions.
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Posted: Nov 28th 2007 12:09PM (Unverified) said

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or mabey actafool, should make a consol at 200 dollars and see how they do.
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Posted: Nov 28th 2007 11:48AM Starcade said

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Don't we all want cheaper consoles?

Below $200 is certainly a sweet spot for mass market sales. At that price, you might find them at the Gas N Mart.

Microsoft, the first out of the gate with this generation's console, had reduced pricing by about $50.

Sony, which released their console a year later has already seen pricing reduced by $100

And Nintendo hasn't budged on pricing at all.

I was still hoping that Microsoft would have cut their console pricing by $100 by now, which would have force Nintendo to do SOMETHING, and perhaps even Sony.

Instead, Microsoft is letting the competition sit pretty. Nintendo has a niche as the cheapest console. And Sony is just happy to get consoles out the door at any price.

Posted: Nov 28th 2007 2:18PM (Unverified) said

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Even if MS did lower their prices by $100, the only thing Nintendo would have to do is phase out the current model, and introduce a new one at the exact same price.
People would buy it up like crazy.
It works for apple...
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Posted: Nov 28th 2007 12:03PM (Unverified) said

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lol funny picture of inanimate objects talking, back on topic who cares if the wii is fad its selling isnt it? and why should it not be compares to the other consoles i bet that if the ps3, xbox and wii switched sales people would be saying that the wii is losing obviously its not for the hard core and owning one is like having a one speed pink bike with good traction but no bells while your friends have the super duper deluxe ultra thing-a-ma-bob with a liquid hydrogen fuel cell powered bell 599 speed bike with a free gps that tells you where you are on a bike that costed them 499 grand (ie the ps3) and your neighbor has the super deluxe bike with 12 speeds and a good 50 a month gps wich tells you where the other bikes are at 4/5 the price of your friends bike give or take a few cents (ie the xbox ), but in the end they all get you to the same place just on different routes and different amounts of hate-orade.

Posted: Nov 28th 2007 12:06PM (Unverified) said

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lol i have typos lol ok back to sleep
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Posted: Nov 28th 2007 12:56PM (Unverified) said

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wow you interrupted sleep just to comment on joystiq... time to rethink your priorities.
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Posted: Nov 28th 2007 12:43PM debosbike said

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360/PS3 can't compete with Wii, it has something the other two don't: fad-hype. The hype of the Wii fad has everyone wanting to buy one, but half of these people don't even know what they're buying. I've seen it all too often where a coworker buys one and just plays Wii Sports with no clue about any other games. They don't even care for other games, they just wanted the Wii.

Posted: Nov 28th 2007 12:54PM enbadesign said

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exactly. I bought a Wii and am waiting for SMG and MP3 to show up on Christmas morning so I have something to play. After that I don't know when my next Wii purchase will be.

The Wii is still on Ultra-Hype mode where people are buying one because they think everyone else is buying one. They want to get in on the action. The action they all want is Wii Sports. My parents freinds want to play the easy bowling game. Hell my dad just played it for the first itme at my house and enjoyed it. It was the first time he's played a video game with me since the frickin Atari 5200. He got hung up on having to push more than 1 button to play video games.

Although the Wiimote shape is meant to be familiar to non gamers it is an ergonomic nightmare. I wish they would release a "gamers" remote that allows you to point at the screen while your wrist is in a natural position. Remote controls can be rectangular sticks because you usually don't swing them around and press button for hours at a time.
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Posted: Nov 28th 2007 2:25PM (Unverified) said

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Yeah, but eventually fads die.

Just look at POGS.
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Posted: Nov 28th 2007 12:48PM carg0 said

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the only thing the Wii has re-enforced is how ignorant the average consumer is. you can't compare the Wii to the ps3/360 and to allow consumers to do so, without educating them, is inherently dangerous to the industry itself. you get ridiculous comments from f%ing idiots like Kotick, for starters.

if the Wii's 'cheap price for even cheaper hardware' method becomes the standard -- where idiots don't realize how much progress has been made in nearly 40 years of gaming -- where you ignore the differences between a 360/ps3 and a Wii, it could conceivably plunge the industry back to the 8-bit stone age as developers ask themselves, "why heavily invest in a next-gen game on a next-gen console, pushing the industry forward if the average consumer is to dumb to tell the difference as they buy the cheaper console simply because it costs less?" the result, you ask?

GTA 3: gone
Bioshock: gone
Halo: gone
Mass Effect: gone
God of War: gone
Final Fantasy VII and up: gone
Ass's Creed: gone
MGS 2: gone

'next-gen' is not a marketing gimmick. as gamers, we already know this. all of these industry-defining titles were, at one point, made on next-gen consoles because developers knew that gamers would make all their hard work worth it in the end by buying that next-gen console. because those games were worth it.

im not insinuating that Wii owners are dumb. im simply saying consumers have the right to know WHY it's cheaper but Nintendo continues to turn a blind eye, allowing them to assume there's no difference.

Posted: Nov 28th 2007 1:20PM blash said

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well said. I don't think that the consumers are idiots though - they're not buying 360's because they don't care about most of these games on the market. They see the games as being the manifestation of hard-core - something that, if they tried to play online for example (since that's one thing that microsoft markets so heavily), that they aren't going to have fun with it because everyone else playing has "trained for hours a day and it makes it look like I suck and I'm not going to have any fun." But a lot of the Wii titles go back to what was really good about gaming in the first place - sitting with your buds on the couch cheering each other on. Wii games let people be more social with each other, providing a venue for relationships and the like.

I'm not a Wiiboy, I don't even own a Wii. But if Nintendo and Sony teamed up and made an affordable Wii with better graphics, people would buy that for their HDTV's. People care about graphics, but they care about having fun more.
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Posted: Nov 28th 2007 2:09PM (Unverified) said

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This is ridiculous. The Wii's graphics are terrible. I would never want console makers to sacrifice performance for price. My Wii looks like garbage next to my PS3 and XBox 360. I'm sorry to say it, but it does.

Posted: Nov 28th 2007 2:27PM ummhello said

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I agree--although the Wii has great visuals, but I really hope Nintendo steps up their graphics processor on their next console. I love their games, but they need to step up the graphics.

I think they took a great risk (and thus are receiving great rewards--"it prints money!!") with the motion sensing. Hopefully it will develop over the next few years the way Miyamoto envisioned, and jump onto the HDTV bandwagon (which after 2009 will be near impossible to avoid doing).
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Posted: Nov 28th 2007 2:51PM (Unverified) said

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yeah, c'mon sony, put a thousand dollars worth of components into it then sell it at $200. that sounds smart....

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Posted: Nov 28th 2007 3:36PM (Unverified) said

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Hey, Activision, as long as you're telling companies to slash their prices in half how about setting an example and lower the goshdarn games to 35 bucks. I think we'd buy a lot more games in the longrun.

Posted: Nov 28th 2007 3:49PM (Unverified) said

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Consumers want Activision games at $19.99 and not in beta form.

Posted: Nov 28th 2007 3:59PM ThornedVenom said

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Activision wants cheaper consoles?

*whips exploited underage worker*

Posted: Nov 28th 2007 4:29PM (Unverified) said

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Well, Activision can stick with the Wii then if thats what they think is right. I'm just wondering how much they're gonna be able to do for it...

Posted: Nov 28th 2007 10:47PM (Unverified) said

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You want prices lowered Mr. Game Developer to reach the masses? How about lowering the price of THE GAMES as well?!!!

$60 a pop for ONE GAME is too much ... what do you think of that? Make it $30 and then you can talk! pfft

Posted: Nov 29th 2007 1:41AM NyghtcrawleR said

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I love when developers always say crap like this. Its absurd. Sony & MS would have to sell the consoles at such a loss it wouldnt even bother making them anymore.

Posted: Nov 29th 2007 2:51PM (Unverified) said

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I don't think a $199 PS3 in two years is out of the question. The PS3 has been out for one year, and it dropped in price $100 - even while they increased the size of the hard drives. (Yeah, they crippled backwards compatibility, but they also put Wi-Fi back in the lower-end model, and even through in a free movie or game.) If they keep dropping the price at that rate, the lower-end model will be $199 in two years. I'm not saying they will drop the price so fast, but think about it - $199 has always been the real "mass market" price point for consoles (Wii excepted) and manufacturers have always tried to get to that price point as fast as they can - and then they slow down their price drops (and make them smaller). Hell, the PS2 dropped in price $100 - that's 33% - in it's first year. Compared to that, the PS3 price drops are nothing.

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