Ars Technica defends Nintendo from Greenpeace goose egg

First comment minutes after the article went online and 23 comments yesterday alone. Jesus Christ...

Well... if you have your own bussines, in your own home, with workers, its easy to be in Joystiq and playing videogames.

Ah, and thanks for taking your time to count my comments.

because that's the only crap game on wii...

/looks at 97% of the games on the system and sighs

That's a bit harsh, bounchfx.

It's more like 96% of Wii games.

*sighs*

Zertross,

Many readers actually explained what the problem was on the last article about this and also gave educated opinions on this matter.

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/27/nintendo-dead-last-in-greenpeace-guide-to-greener-electronics/

Here, Greenpeace states this:

"Each score is based solely on public information on the companies website. Companies found not to be following their published policies will be deducted penalty point in future versions of the guide."

and I don't think Nintendo is a polluter, but why not show all that information? what is the problem with it? I mean, have you seen what other companies show? the news that you provide shows as much as their website does

Here, check the detailed information of what these other companies do:

http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/corporate/company/aboutus/socialresponsibility/environment
http://www.nokia.com/A4243029
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/Environment/activities/vision/index.html
http://www.motorola.com/content.jsp?globalObjectId=8509

The problem at hand is making your policies public, its not some big secret, they should make their policies fully available and easy to access for the public.

Its really sad that an comment like this is coming from Ars Technica, they are blaming them for being lazy? I guess they were also lazy for not reading the whole article article

I'm sure the policies are public, but they just didn't think it was worth paying someone to post it up on the website and keep the site up to date. I'm sure if you send a letter to them, they will reply back with a request for $10 to ship you the binder of the policy they have on recycling/etc.

If you think greenpeace is credible, then I suggest you have serious ontological problems.

It's not that Nintendo is trustworthy - producing semiconductors is actually way more polluting than many people realise. I would be suprised if any of the corporations listed by Greenpeace and actually "green" at all.

The problem is that Greenpeace is known to be _untrustworthy_. Pick any issue of theirs you want and dig a little deeper. You'll see that their "research" is almost always sloppy in the extreme. Greenpeace do not work with information - they work will BS attention whoring.

Environmental problems are real, pressing, and really, really complex. We need to act based on an actual understanding of the issues, not just charge about with some halfwit's knee-jerk reactions.

There are environmental organisations I respect. Greenpeace sure as hell isn't one of them.

@Crono-

They're surely more credible than some guy named Crono posting comments on a video game blog. Despite what you might think of their tactics and public statements, it's hard to deny they've done some good. Just look at what they've done to limit whaling and the killing of seal pups for fur.

NO, its not hard to deny they've done some good.

I deny they've done some good.

Wasn't that hard at all. There are far better environmentalists and environmentalist organizations than greenpeace.

They have no credibility because they've demonstrated almost continuously for the last 2 decades that they can't be trusted at face value. See above comment.

Sony Ericsson
Samsung
Sony
Dell
Lenovo
Toshiba
LGE
Fujitsu-Siemens
Nokia
HP
Apple
Acer
Panasonic
Motorola
Sharp
Microsoft
Philips

All are companies that are much more famous than Nintendo, oh, and Microsoft scored 2.7....

So what was your point again? have you even read the article?

No, I'd say "Nintendo" is a much more recognizable name that all but Sony on your list.

Crono....NDF....no wonder

Well... Crono is right...

And Nintendo makes more profits that that companies.

Well, Nintendo _is_ the company currently in the spotlight, what with the DS, Wii and all that mainstream press coverage. It would make sense to target them for maximum outrage and they are a fairly easy target. Besides no one would expect "family-friendly" Nintendo of all companies to be a smog-belching supercorp. Instant coverage right there.

However, I think it's best for now just to attribute it poor communication and lazy researching practices rather than some conspiracy theory against Nintendo.
*tinfoil-hats*

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Greenpeace is still crazy, regardless.