High-def video on demand coming to Japanese PS3

The PS3 stole the idea and has no games!

I'm above you ColossalHat!

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nice one slazi


HE SHOOTS HE SCORES!


(i was gonna say the same thing)

Naaa... its ok... Sony stealing ideas is like a tradition. =)

Kinda like you being a dick is a tradition...

Exactly.

Haha... +'s for both License to ill and Fernando.

I've been liking Sony's ultraportable laptops, so I wanted to say they did pioneer LED backlighting in the TX and switchable graphics in the SZ (integrated to dedicated).

They can create too. : )

And their Playstation was based on a failed SNES addon, and look how successful its become.

Fernando, do you hate Sony in general or their Playstation division, do you hate the first two Playstations? Do you acknowledge that Nintendo made mistakes with the N64 and it (GASP!!!) lost marketshare with the N64 like with the PS3?

Until Steam can completely eliminate the bug that tells you that you haven't bought a game you already have, a fully digital distribution market is only a dream.

Besides, if digital distribution is so imminent as some people would have you believe, why are the majority of titles only available in a physical format?

I, for one, prefer to go actually go into a store (be it Best Buy, Wal-Mart, Target, or whatever) and interact with people before making a purchase that may be a mistake.

I prefer my collection in a physical form. If I have both options, I will always choose the physical format.

Best of both worlds would be to download the movie online, then be sent a physical retail copy of the movie.

ColossalHat,

tell me, what's 1993 like?

well the 40gb ps3's (the almost dedicated movie players) can only store one movie at a time (if it uses all the space on the bluedisc) and that would all take a long time to download too...

While technically the digital information does not degrade as time passes, the medium which it is stored on does. Optical discs have no moving parts and if taken care of, can last well over 15 years. Hard drives on the other hand rely on mechanical moving parts and magnetism and rarely last more than 5 years, especially if it uses a high spindle speed.

For this reason a "physical copy" is still a better security option than "digital distribution" unless the latter allows for transfer to an optical disc without the hassle and headache of current DRM's. That and you get pretty box art which adds a sense of value to the purchase.

I still prefer to buy CD's as opposed to MP3's due to DRM nightmares, lack of a cover jacket and the attrocious bit rate which most sites use. A CD sounds better and is much more flexible in function and use. I can rip it, burn it, transfer it and store it all at compression rates and sound qualities that I choose. The ONLY benefit of downloading music (other than the lazy factor) is price, but I'd gladly pony up the extra 5 bucks for all the benefits of a CD.

What I'm saying FordGTGuy, is that if someone can't get glitches out of a simple program whose only purpose is digital distribution, then we're quite simply not ready for it. It's a problem that could easily be fixed, but they don't. Now, who's to say that any service but Xbox live is going to be any different?

Also, try having a system RRoD on you, then give me the spiel on how great live is. Once the 360 your HDD is in goes down, if you get a new one, none of the crap will work that was downloaded from Live. So you see, it too has issues, though they (arguably) aren't as common as Steam's.

Finally, nearly any download you get will not work on every system (i.e. computer, PS3, 360, and Mac). Until they make a standard, somewhat like Steam is trying to establish with games, full digital distribution is a pipedream.

P.S. I like debating ;p

ColossalHat,

your argument is based on on avenue of digital distribution, and you dismiss Xbox Live because of a hardware failure. if you like debating, you need to go to debate school.

iTunes = digital distribution
Movies on Demand = digital distribution
GameTap = digital distribution
Pay per View = digital distribution
XBL Arcade/PSN = digital distribution
XBL Movies = digital distribution

what did you get all your downloadable content on a floppy disc?

be upset at Valve all you want, but your "argument" that they are "holding up" the notion of digital distribution is beyond laughable.






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@Digi

iTunes= you have to go through the hassle of authorizing music to play it on another computer, or to give it to another person, a physical format you can hand off to another person.

Movies/video on Demand= most of these are rentals and usually have no option for you to buy the media

Gametap= subscription-based service in which you own nothing, thus it's not being distributed to anyone anymore than public transportation is distributing buses to people

Pay per View= see movies/video on demand

XBL Arcade/PSN= for XBL see previous post (addendum to that post, you can indeed play with things you've downloaded provided you're always connected to Xbox Live on your new box) PSN I can't really make arguments about since I've barely used the service myself or seen its functionality enough to form an opinion.

XBL Movies= Again you own nothing as it's a rental service.

The bottom line is that most of your "digital distribution" services are little more than rental services, and thusly are distributing nothing more than the right to view or access intellectual property for a window of time. So, if you like renting things, it seems DD is the way to go, to get ownership at this point in time (for the most part) physical formats are here basically until terabyte hard drives are the norm among PCs and whatever else people are supposed to distribute IPs to.

Colossal, changing subjects would fail you in any debate class. see my other post regarding buying vs. renting.

the point is digital distribution is not only already here, its already mainstream. Valve's software bug, and your RROD not withstanding.




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I'm sorry digi, but last I checked the definition of distribution implied the exchange of money for goods, not a service. It's perfectly on topic, you just refuse to accept the argument because I gave an argument against each of them that I felt was relevant. Digital Distribution is indeed here, however, it is not mainstream as all but three of the services you mention do not transfer ownership of anything, therefore is not distribution.

In fact, here's a link to the definition of the word http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/distribute so the next time you list such a thing as video on demand as a form of digital distribution you'll think again. If such things as that were indeed digital distribution, then satellite TV in general would be digital distribution as you are paying for the ability to watch television shows.

FYI, the information on the RRoD I have presented was on my brother's console. The steam issues do nothing more than reuire me to restart my computer, and seeing as how I don't have a computer capable of playing most games newer than Pirates, I've got no problem with Valve other than Gabe Newell's mudslinging against all new technology since I've not played a game on my computer for about a month.

So rather than assuming I have a Fernando-esque hatred of anything, you could make a counterpoint on the damn topic at hand rather than making snide mudslinging comments like "Where'd you get your DLC a floppy disk?" or "You need to go to debate school".

fine colossal, next you are going to define a 'good' as something physical, correct?

i'm not renting WarHawk. and i won't be renting an Xbox Original or a Wii Virtual Console game. yes, my hard drive/memory card could go bad, but so could your disc.

i'm sorry but you made an absolutely absurd comment, stating Valve's buggy software and your brother RROD experience as proof that a digital distribution market is only a "dream".

it's not imminent, its here.



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Yes Digi, DD is here, and you know what? It's bad. And it's all because of DRM. You never actually own anything with DD. You simply own the rights to use it as the studio sees fit. When I own a CD, I own the CD. I can play it on my PC, I can play it in my car, I can record it to a cassette, I can rip it to mp3s, I can convert it, I can lend it to a friend, I can sell it. When it is easy to do all these things on Xbox Live or Steam, then DD has a chance at taking over from physical media.

Different countries, different policies, different contracts and different companies. When you start releasing content in more then one country it becomes very complicated.

well. partly international licensing, but mostly the fact that the Blu-Ray format is aimed heavily at the US market.

hence why so many people are getting fatter nowadays?

getting your ass off the couch is not archaic, its just not being lazy...

Probably going out to eat is also archaic to you, so just ask to have it deliver to your door....

but its definitely not OK to get up and change discs right Noshino?




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by opening their eyes to what their competition is already doing?

exactly

Digi Smalls,

Have you ever thought that Sony MIGHT have been thinking/working on it for a while already? take in mind that they have quite a movie library... dont you think?

which means the competition started working on it even earlier...

of course they *thought* about it Noshino, but they didn't implement it before a company that has NO movies did.

if Sony were really interested in digital distribution they would have been in an excellent position to (especially with user installable HDDs), but there are obvious conflicting interests with the physical format they are introducing.



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