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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 12:35AM (Unverified) said

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If true, Gamespot has lost any shred of credibility that it had left.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 1:02AM (Unverified) said

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it didn't have any left anyway
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 1:35AM MrHashbrown said

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Seriously.

1UP has always been, and is now the last, honest website for gaming culture.

It's sad really. I enjoyed GameSpot more than 1UP before, but now it's just ridiculous. I'm not saying 1UP is the best, but it is definitely one of the more personal and has a lot more credibility now than GS.

This is pretty much pathetic on GS part. News sites, not only gaming sites, are supposed to support their writers/editors more than their sponsors. GS has become corrupt and greedy.

And to think they were once considered the best gaming site on the web...
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 1:39AM (Unverified) said

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If this true, both Edios and GameSpot will instantly end up on my blacklist down to the point where I entirely block the site away.

It would be a deep, deep, DEEP insult. Both GameSpot and Edios could never recover from it.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 6:33AM kewlrats said

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Wow, that freaking sucks!

Jeff was the only reason I still listened to their podcasts, and it looks like that won't be happening anymore.

Besides, I have the Joystiq podcast now, so I shouldn't listen to any others anyways.

But yeah, that would be a major loss to Gamespot for the great work he's done over the years.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 8:52AM elmer said

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I've actually stopped reading 1up, only checking in once a month or so to confirm my suspicions about their rather extreme slants. They're true to their opinions, but their opinions are insultingly biased (mostly). It's actually strong enough to show up statistically.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 10:11AM R V said

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Well if this is true, then I won't be trusting gamespot anymore. It would be nice to have a site thats independent from ads and does reviews.
Perhaps you guys at joystiq should start doing more reviews?
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 1:54PM (Unverified) said

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I just canceled my paid subscription there, I never felt comfortable about that place since they were nabbed up by CNET.
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Posted: Dec 1st 2007 1:29PM (Unverified) said

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I love that this is still up on the site.

"I have more questions."
We are always looking for ways to improve our reviews, because we know they are important to you. Please contact Editorial Director Jeff Gerstmann at jeff@gamespot.com if you have any further questions about our standards or policies with respect to our coverage of games.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 12:36AM (Unverified) said

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Well... look at this...

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 12:39AM IannCannon said

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That was one awesome comic.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 12:58AM Obienator said

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I bet Tycho and Gabe will have a very interesting editorial tomorrow.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 9:17AM (Unverified) said

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*Updated link for future references:

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/11/29
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 12:36AM (Unverified) said

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They'll be losing me as a reader if this turns out to even smell as if it could be true.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 7:32AM (Unverified) said

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Not just a reader, but as a viewer. Their weekly show, On The Spot, usually presented by Gerstmann didn't air last night (http://www.gamespot.com/onthespot). And there's a suitably generic message on the page apologizing. This stinks.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 12:36AM Obienator said

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I like Jeff G just fine, he seems not to get caught up in hype and seems honest in his reviews.
What does it say about the videogame industry if the publishers dictate the terms of their games' reviews?
What if this has happened before?
I feel this is something that needs to be seriously looked into, because it really, really sucks if it is true.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 1:28AM ramifications said

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Which one is Jeff again?

The fat one who was pretty funny and was trying to get the highest gamerscore?
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 5:22AM Ignatius said

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Yeah, because THPS3 needed a 10.

That game was lame compared to 2, 4 and THUG1.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 6:17AM (Unverified) said

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I if this is true, then I don't know what to say, gamespot was the first game review site I trusted, but if this is true, then I probably wont be at gamespot any time soon.

On reflection, it might not have been THIS that got Jeff fired but rather the SUM OF ALL THINGS hes got in trouble for, the guy raised hell with his TP review, and now hes doing it again, but he still should not be silenced like that.

I guess I'll take my "most trusted review site" pin and give it to Gametrailers
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 12:38AM IannCannon said

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Isn't that Mr. 8.8 as people like to call him?
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 12:41AM (Unverified) said

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no, he's Mr. Awesome-O 3000
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 12:42AM Obienator said

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I thought ( after playing through Twilight Princess myself) he was not too far off.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 1:05AM BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam said

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Twilight Princess was fun. But I think 8.8 was an appropriate score. Still means it was a great game.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 5:17AM bm111 said

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8.8 -would- have been appropriate if it weren't for the climate of ludicrously overrated piles of crap lately that have gotten 10's all over the place, like Halo 3, Bioshock or *shudder* FFXII. If we have to go by the scores of those games, Zelda should have been a 12/10 or something.

Sure, it's not as good as Link to the Past or Ocarina, but it pisses all over the aforementioned overhyped shitpiles from great heights.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 9:44AM bm111 said

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Whoa, what's with the downvoting? FPS kiddies in the audience? I feel sorry for you. ;)
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 10:58AM (Unverified) said

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@bm:

"Whoa, what's with the downvoting? FPS kiddies in the audience? I feel sorry for you. ;)"

Perhaps because your comments are pointless and self serving, and, quite frankly, no body gives a shit what you think?

Trust me, it has nothing to do with your raging hard on against FPS simply because you lack the eye/hand coordination to play those type of games.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 11:18AM (Unverified) said

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I noticed that you only have high regards on Nintendo published games. May I say that it is likely you have no skills to play any other games nor the ability to open your mind. Besides calling other people kiddies. Just how old are you?
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 12:30PM bm111 said

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Hmm lessee. Out of my top 10 favourite franchises, only about 3-4 are even -on- Nintendo consoles, so there goes your assertion. Sorry, kid. ;p

I just find myself increasingly having to come to the heroic aid (if I do say so myself) of Nintendo games because, well, ever since the Wii has rocketed from underdog to top dog, the whining of haters seems to have risen proportionally!
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 4:04PM bm111 said

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Holy shit, that one went fast, haha. I can just taste the bitter hate.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 12:41AM (Unverified) said

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While I do believe Jeff can be a little overly harsh and negative about some games (8.8 for Twilight Princess), I do not think in anyway that his harshness deserves him to be fired. I seriously bet there is more to this story than just his review.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 12:47AM (Unverified) said

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Twilight Princess is overhyped. 8.8 is still higher than what it deserves. 8.0 in my book.

But yeah, this is a shock to who? We all know some websites/magazines are bribed (ex. they get exclusive cover story rights to the game if they're guaranteed a certain score, see EGM's letter from the editor the month doom 3 was on Gamepro's cover.)

So, yeah. All the more reason to not visit any individual site and use Game Rankings/Meta Critic instead.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 2:34AM mmxzer0 said

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Yeah and good thing both those sites show the LoZ TP has an average of 94% =P

On topic, this whole thing is a disgrace, hope he can find work elsewhere at a fellow game site or something.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 5:21AM bm111 said

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"Twilight Princess is overhyped. 8.8 is still higher than what it deserves. 8.0 in my book."


Let me guess, your "book" is full of scribbles of naked Master Chief. ;)

*barf*
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 6:42AM (Unverified) said

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And your book full of naked Link? If you think your opinion is worth so much go seek a career in games journalism.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 6:58AM imadogg said

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Nice reply by Jon, very classy
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 8:17AM baby sea tuna said

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Boom.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 9:49AM bm111 said

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"Opinion", a word highly overused by butthurt people who can't accept that they're wrong. :p

At least have the balls to stand up for yours instead of making general statements about how anything anybody says is purely subjective vapour.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 11:15AM (Unverified) said

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Nobody said you were wrong or right. I agree Halo 3 is overrated, but if you want to have an opinion of it then you better have a valid reason besides bias. Because right now your opinion means squat.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 12:38PM bm111 said

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No, I've argued my ass off in the past and I've had enough, for now it's just fun to annoy (and make thinly veiled insults towards their sexuality) poor Nintendo Antagonists who so desperately cling to the single below-9 score they can find.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 12:41AM samfish said

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Incredibly fucking weak, if true.
Hell, if I were running the Earth (soon...soon...) I'd even go so far as doing things like removing their scores from sites like Meta-Critic, since their reviews would all be tainted.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 12:57AM Fox318 said

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Cnet/gamespot owns Metacritic.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 1:00AM (Unverified) said

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AND Gamerankings.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 1:02AM BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam said

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I welcome our royal naked overlords.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 1:58AM Lone Starr said

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If you were running the world, I would hope involving yourself in the internal drama of video game websites would be your last priority.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 8:46AM ShinAntonio said

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hahaha well said Lone Starr
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 12:44AM Negativecool said

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Jeff wasn't fired, he was promoted to a position away from Gamespot. It was Gamespot in its entirety was fired and thus left behind to wallow in its own stinking sludge of hipocrisy.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 2:48AM jpcx01 said

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What... the... f%*&... does that supposed to mean?
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 3:41AM Negativecool said

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Nothing really...just that Jeff wouldn't have run into this problem if he had the epic termination dodging skills of Marty McFly http://firemcfly.ytmnd.com/
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 12:46AM (Unverified) said

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I hope it's true.

Never liked that guy.

He's fat, harsh, and looks like if you got too close, he's be sticking and smelling of artificial cheese.

Like Rosie O'Donnelle, but for gamers: a stereotype in the media.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 12:48AM Obienator said

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If you hate the guy just because of looks, you automatically shun 98% of the reviewer community. ;)
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