Looks like November in Japan fared better for Sony than it did for Nintendo, as sales for the PS3 beat out the Wii. Selling 183,217 units to Nintendo's 159,193 units, it would appear that Sony's system is becoming the more desirable system in the region and a trend is emerging. The reality, however, is likely very different.
With the Wii being so scarce (despite Nintendo supposedly manufacturing almost 2 million units a month), as well as Sony introducing a cheaper 40gb model of their PS3 console, the factors involved contributed to a favorable month for Sony. Should Nintendo manage to produce enough consoles so that the Wii could actually be on the shelf for consumers when they want to buy it, then we're sure we would be writing a very different story right now.
Reader Comments (28)
Posted: Nov 30th 2007 3:18PM manyquestions said
Nice picture. Are those PS3 boxes? :)
Posted: Nov 30th 2007 3:24PM (Unverified) said
Your logic fails. Nobody in the market looking for a Wii is instead picking up a PS3 because it is now $400.
Posted: Nov 30th 2007 3:57PM SSUK said
Well, your logic is equally flawed because you have little proof to show that your side of the story is more correct.
There ups and downs in hardware sales and to try and find a ballance between your two arguments I propose this alternative: while Nintendo keeps failing to meet demand, console-seekers are panicing they wont get their kid a Wii for Christmas and so they turn to the secondary option; a PS3.
We're all happy then.
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There ups and downs in hardware sales and to try and find a ballance between your two arguments I propose this alternative: while Nintendo keeps failing to meet demand, console-seekers are panicing they wont get their kid a Wii for Christmas and so they turn to the secondary option; a PS3.
We're all happy then.
Posted: Nov 30th 2007 4:16PM (Unverified) said
lol "fail to meet demand" that is just the funniest thing....it's like saying The New England Patriots failed to score 100 points against the Dolphins.
I don't believe FAIL is the correct word to be using around anything Nintendo right about now, ssuk. Especially in talking about meeting demand.
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I don't believe FAIL is the correct word to be using around anything Nintendo right about now, ssuk. Especially in talking about meeting demand.
Posted: Nov 30th 2007 4:23PM (Unverified) said
you didn't get that point...
more people want ps3's because of the 40gb version.
meanwhile, less people who want a wii can get it because of supply issues.
that is why we are seeing the ps3 overtake the wii, while it could've been the other way around despite the influx of ps3 buyers had the wii's supply matched the demand.
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more people want ps3's because of the 40gb version.
meanwhile, less people who want a wii can get it because of supply issues.
that is why we are seeing the ps3 overtake the wii, while it could've been the other way around despite the influx of ps3 buyers had the wii's supply matched the demand.
Posted: Dec 1st 2007 4:40AM Garst said
It could have something to do with some people not telling customers that the 40GB doesn't support PS2 games. I already know of one person returning a system for that reason. And I don't work in retail, and so I have no idea of how many other people done that. I also know the person bought the 60GB at a different store, so the PS3 numbers could be a little eskewed.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 3:27PM TendoMan said
lol@PS3 boxes.
Also, if you look closeley, the shipping boxes behind what may be the most awesome use of PS3 boxes, say "Woot!" on them.
/want
Also, if you look closeley, the shipping boxes behind what may be the most awesome use of PS3 boxes, say "Woot!" on them.
/want
Posted: Nov 30th 2007 3:42PM (Unverified) said
Yes, that pic is from when Woot sold off a bunch of 20GB PS3s to pay for the Wiis that all the employees wanted last December. http://www.woot.com/Blog/BlogEntry.aspx?BlogEntryId=1903
It was the first conclusive sign for me that the Wii was going to be more successful than the PS3, despite the initial appearances of the first few days.
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It was the first conclusive sign for me that the Wii was going to be more successful than the PS3, despite the initial appearances of the first few days.
Posted: Nov 30th 2007 3:34PM (Unverified) said
One month... just like the PSP.
PS3/PSP need a new model/price drop in order to be able to beat their competition for one month out of tweve.
The PS3, however, couldn't even hold on to the top spot for more than two weeks, like the PSP did.
PS3/PSP need a new model/price drop in order to be able to beat their competition for one month out of tweve.
The PS3, however, couldn't even hold on to the top spot for more than two weeks, like the PSP did.
Posted: Nov 30th 2007 3:37PM (Unverified) said
In other news, according to Media Create, the Wii outsold the PS3 during the last week in November (by about 4,000). As I predicted a few weeks ago, the PS3 will settle somewhere below the Wii (though now, I expect both system's numbers to fluctuate above and below one another). Still, congrats to Sony for finally stimulating that market somewhat, even if they had to blow their whole load (new color, sku, price cut) to do it. Also, Wii Fit is released tomorrow, so let's see what happens.
Posted: Nov 30th 2007 3:40PM MemphisNET said
Japanese people are game-crazy. The price helped I'm sure, but also it's probably a ''meh, I already have a Wii, and PS3 is coming down in price''
That's why I'll buy a PS3 once it hits 300-350CND. For the odd games I actually like on Sony systems (Gran Turismo, God of War, Killzone)
That's why I'll buy a PS3 once it hits 300-350CND. For the odd games I actually like on Sony systems (Gran Turismo, God of War, Killzone)
Posted: Nov 30th 2007 3:42PM (Unverified) said
Man, that's the greatest use for a PS3 in that picture!
But, oh man! Sony beat Nintendo 1 WHOLE MONTH, and it only took a price drop to do it? And, couldn't there also be a "cheapest Blu-Ray player" factor as well? Cuz that's all the PS3 has going for it. No good games only released on it, really.
But, oh man! Sony beat Nintendo 1 WHOLE MONTH, and it only took a price drop to do it? And, couldn't there also be a "cheapest Blu-Ray player" factor as well? Cuz that's all the PS3 has going for it. No good games only released on it, really.
Posted: Nov 30th 2007 4:42PM (Unverified) said
Actually, the lack of Wii's on the shelf has led my friend at work to buy his kids an XBox360 this Christmas instead of a Wii. They've always owned Nintendo products but they just can't find one.
Posted: Nov 30th 2007 5:25PM manyquestions said
Kudos to Trogdor for picking the best username I've seen yet on NWF.
@Wild Pegasus: We'll see how your attitude changes in the next few months.
@Wild Pegasus: We'll see how your attitude changes in the next few months.
Posted: Nov 30th 2007 5:26PM (Unverified) said
I'd be more interested in knowing exactly how much money the Sony Video Games Division is hemorrhaging after that price cut. The PS3 was already losing money when it cost $600, now, they gotta be bleeding green they're losing so much. Also, I'd like to know exactly how much they are losing per console sold.
Posted: Nov 30th 2007 5:51PM (Unverified) said
That's not necessarily the case -- they've done a whole load of cost reduction on the thing (taking out the PS2 Emotion Engine and the graphics chip, for instance, as we all know, and it's pretty likely a bunch of the components have come down in price as they've been mass-produced for longer). I'd hazard to say they're still taking a loss, but it won't be even close to "original loss plus $200". Most likely it's a little more than the original loss but not much more, maybe original loss plus $30-50.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 6:54PM (Unverified) said
in Japan, I always see Wiis in stock. they are always always available. Whoever wrote this article hasnt been here and didnt do any research.
Posted: Dec 1st 2007 8:59AM (Unverified) said
What parts of Japan are you finding these Wiis? Sorry I have a cousin who is working over their at the moment and will be their for at least another six months and he can't find one. If you know what parts of Japan has them in stock then maybe I can relay the message to him.
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Posted: Dec 1st 2007 7:36PM (Unverified) said
In Tokyo. I saw used ones and new ones at a place called "dorama" near shibuya. Also Bic Camera always has a bunch in stock. Your cousin should have no problem finding one:)
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Posted: Dec 1st 2007 7:39PM (Unverified) said
by the way, where is your cousin? major electronic stores should all have them.
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Posted: Dec 2nd 2007 10:20AM (Unverified) said
He is in Osaka and said he is having a hard time finding one. From my understanding it is a decent sized area but maybe he just doesn't know his way around good enough yet.
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Posted: Nov 30th 2007 11:59PM (Unverified) said
i hope this continues
the PS3 is great but it could use some more games
the PS3 is great but it could use some more games
Posted: Dec 1st 2007 12:21PM Goity said
Those numbers don't add up. There is no way Nintendo are allocating less than 10% of their stock to their own country, so surely there must be some other factor?
Posted: Dec 1st 2007 2:12PM (Unverified) said
Actually the Wii has a huge interest drop in Japan . A couple of month ago the Wii could sell in Japan 70-80 k/week , and while the shipment remained the same , sales droped a lot . SMG didnt helped as much as Nintendo was hoping for , not even far , and now if Wiifit wont do so well neither , this holiday could be partially Sonys ... of course the DS will still be far #1 , but the Wii could do only #3 o maybe even #4 ...
Posted: Dec 2nd 2007 6:43AM (Unverified) said
So much idiocy...check the charts morons, October and November is always slow in japan, PS2 its first year sold less than 10K some weeks and in its second year didn't do much better than Wii was doing, in fact one week GCN crushed it, but it spiked back up in december leaving all the other consoles behind, only reason PS3 didn't drop in sales in november was because of the 40GB launch and a new color, white, Japan loves new console colors. Wii already overtook PS3 last week according to Media Create and sales of Wii Fit look strong, and Nintendo didn't even have to release a new color. Sorry but PS3 had to use its full effect just to pass the Wii in a slow month, but now that's over.
Posted: Dec 2nd 2007 8:41PM (Unverified) said
Nintendo should consider slashing prices to $199.
I know they are selling everything they make, so from the surface, it might seem like it doesn't make sense to cut prices, but the console wars is partly fought in volumes on units out there.
Having a price of $199, I think would help some people hold off on buying the PS3 over the Wii.
I know they are selling everything they make, so from the surface, it might seem like it doesn't make sense to cut prices, but the console wars is partly fought in volumes on units out there.
Having a price of $199, I think would help some people hold off on buying the PS3 over the Wii.
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