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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:04PM (Unverified) said

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oops, i was just on gamefaqs :(
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:06PM DonaldMick said

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Same here.

But I browse with Adblock on so I'm pretty much invisible to them anyway.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:05PM (Unverified) said

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Actually this Black Out Monday thing fits very well into my own personal plan of never visiting crappy Gamespot again
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:23PM horngreen said

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Agreed, I think I'll yank it from favorites so I'll just forget about going there. The site is hardly ever updated in any decent way anyhow.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 1:24PM kip said

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Yeah.. I never go to GameSpot anyway.. so I guess now I can call it a "boycott" without changing anything.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 2:11PM SoCoolCurt said

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same here. i havent used Gamespot since they did that stupid site redesign like 3 years ago and i found this site. i used to hate the way they would pump up a game as being the greatest game ever based on there exclusive demo time with the games (in turn getting me excited) and then giving it a crappy ass score. if the game is that bad in the final state, then how could the demo possible be considered that great? forget a 24hr boycott, as you see mine is already much longer than that. Joystiq ftw!
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:06PM foxhound said

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"um, the original post is a GameSpot.com link!"

...LAWLZORD! I choose YOU!
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:07PM (Unverified) said

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Done, not going to any websites today, just porn.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:10PM DinnyHoon said

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That's like a normal day for me.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 1:35PM Top Cat said

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hope you don't consider joystiq.com to be porn

*shudders*
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 1:48PM The Artist Formerly known as Jes said

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tc, haven't you seen naked peach?
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 1:53PM (Unverified) said

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I commend you on your valiant efforts! I don't think that cnet has any ownership in any porn sites, unless the unboxing of gadgets really gets you off.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:08PM (Unverified) said

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I'll spread to work to my forum and site.

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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:19PM (Unverified) said

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"But for anyone to get behind the issue, organizers must first wait for the swirl of rumors to settle and the truth to be made public."

Problem is I doubt it ever will be 'confirmed'. Seems to be too much legalitiies stopping anyone from speaking the whole truth.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:15PM dabamf said

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Seriously good point, feels like this is a video game version of a tabloid that everyone is eating up and reacting to. From Jeff's interview, he doesn't seem that broken up about this whole thing, and I'm sure he will land somewhere, maybe even in game development. Lord knows he could make a better game than Kane & Lynch.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:15PM (Unverified) said

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Just correction on that - I didn't start the Blackout Monday idea, the credit belongs in large part to dozens of people within GameSpot, it was started about two days ago in the large Off-Topic Forum of GameSpotr related to Jeff Gerstmann's termination. According to comments I've received from moderation on the site, traffic is down to about 7,000 people on the site in the morning from the usual 10,000 ~ 12,000 people viewing. Whether that's due to Blackout Monday is questionable at best, but a few hundred people showing solidarity is meaningful to the group.

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In any case, this is only an action to show solidarity - the effect of any long term boycott would be one in which the writers and other innocent employees might lose their jobs. Our next step is to create a letter campaign, and the public protests outside GameSpot scheduled for December 8th - 10th. Several others have suggested efforts to devalue advertising space, though the community at large is concerned about the writers currently working for GameSpot - the last thing we'd want is more people we admire to lose their jobs, unless the other editors feel they cannot continue working at GS.

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As far as it just being a rumor, there have been confirmations from GameSpot editors, (at least, I've personally received some messages to that, though obviously I have no means of confirming if the editors in question are aware of the whole situation). CNET will be giving an unsatisfactory statement tomorrow on the issue, though I suspect we'll see more frustration at the situation, and be left with more questions than answers.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:22PM Lamppost said

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I expect nothing less than a character assassination of Jeff by CNet tomorrow.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 2:24PM (Unverified) said

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I've spoken with you many times over at GS and your on my buddy list in fact. While I won't miss the countless moronic system wars BS every day, I will miss the majority of the community. Sadly though, I don't think I'll be visiting GS again until I feel confident with the site, and all CNET sites for that matter. I don't know how they can get out of this situation, at least with the hardcore crowd. As far as I'm concerned, they're scared forever.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:15PM (Unverified) said

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i second this.... - oppsss i'vr been doing the blackout for years cuz they suck balls...
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:16PM (Unverified) said

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Good luck with your nerd protest, I'm sure they'll notice the massive 100 hits less traffic they receive today and act according to your whatever-they-are demands.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:25PM (Unverified) said

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tits or gtfo
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:30PM (Unverified) said

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OMG, you are soo cool. I want to live in your pathetic little world of cynicism and apathy.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:31PM CommentSystem said

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your post aint shit without pics tbh.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:40PM FredFredrickson said

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"Nerd protest?" This, coming from the guy who has a hand-drawn anime avatar on a video games news blog.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:40PM GenBanks said

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This sort of thing can have an effect if the outrage lasts long enough. Right now they (gamespot etc) are just waiting to see whether the whole thing will blow over, but people are still only just finding out about the 'firing for low score' thing. I didn't know about it until today. Moral of the story is, you sound like an absolute retard in your post, and seem to have barely any understanding of this whole thing. You obviously want to be perceived as the type of person that is too cool to care about whether the 'journalism' you rely on is actually shamelessly influenced by advertisers.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:20PM (Unverified) said

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Yep , thats what Im doing ... no CNET sites for me today :P
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:27PM Obienator said

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Count me in, though I have been avoiding GS since the start of Gerstmann gate.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:31PM (Unverified) said

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visit GameFAQs - check... needed help with Havana Level of K&L (not a horrid game, 6.5-7.0 (on a 1-10 scale, not a 6-10 scale).

visit CNET - check, hosts some of the free-ware I use.

visit Download.com - never gone there before any good for things to download?

visit TV.com - check, never heard of it before so had to visit to see if it had anything to do with TV (which I seldom watch). It does.

Google the site - check, trying to get a patch for K&L since it is very buggy at parts.

Have any faith in the review community - Failed. Lost it around the time Space Quest 6 came out.

Expect the facts - Failed. Legal reasons make this very tricky.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:32PM (Unverified) said

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Oh, and I avoid GS. Always sucked, always will, even while Mr. 8.8 worked there.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:38PM FredFredrickson said

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With such amazing articles as "Turok Hands On," I don't see how you guys can resist!
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:39PM (Unverified) said

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Oh my. This is why the gaming industry and gamers in general are not taken seriously by the media and the public. With stupid stunts like this. Blackout Monday? come on gamers its time to grow up!
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 1:29PM FredFredrickson said

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What does growing up have to do with being concerned about the integrity of game reviewers? If anything, striking down a company's ad revenue for one day should show them that gamers are a serious bunch, and that we appreciate journalism that is intelligent and non-biased.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:41PM (Unverified) said

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pfft blackout monday? im doing blackout 08-and beyond
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:50PM (Unverified) said

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Meh. I don't really like GameSpot, but this seems kind of dumb. Every. Single. Media. Outlet. Everywhere. Is. A. Business. So get over it. Nobody has any "rights" when it comes to their video game reviews.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 1:19PM (Unverified) said

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We have a right to not visit their site and not read their biased reviews. You might not see what the big deal is, but I want to get honest reviews to make my game purchasing decisions.

They gave 8.8 to Call of Duty 3 and I bought it because of that score. But that game turned out to be ass, in fact much worse than K&L, which I got after hearing Justin McElroy talk about it on Joystiq Podcast #26.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 3:57PM mietha said

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CoD 3 was total ass, nowhere near an 8.8 (5 at BEST; MULTIPLE game killing bugs all throughout. I died more times to scenery than to bullets.). I had a similiar experience with PDZ0 and Quake IV. My initial intent was to buy quake, but due to their high review of PDZ0 and low review of Quake IV, I bought PDZ0 instead. Over two years later, I've still not played past the second stage of PDZ and Quake IV is STILL one of my favorite FPSs on the system. I've totally ignored their scores since than and just look for objective information within the reviews. This is nothing new. They've been being bought off for years. This is just the most obvious example.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:54PM (Unverified) said

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Interesting idea, but like many other commenters here, I stopped going there anyway. Whether it was caused by the ads or not, it's still not right to suddenly fire one of your most senior staff, just for doing their job, without giving them a good reason.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:55PM John Musco said

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That'll show 'em - give them a time frame in which the boycott will end...schmucks.

The way a boycott works is you get them to buckle by ignoring them indefinitely. A day of no visitors will mean nothing to them - it'll be like having one extra holiday in the year, where people are too busy to visit.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 1:26PM FredFredrickson said

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A timed boycott can "flex the muscle" of the consumers a bit though, and show the company in question what can happen if they continue in their perilous direction.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:59PM Mez Jr said

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Actually, if you guys really want to hurt Gamespot google: "video game reviews" and there is a CNET sponsored link on the right. CNET pays a price each time a user clicks that link. So just gogle, click that link and back out. CNET pays google and gets essentially nothing.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 1:26PM kip said

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Sounds like a good idea to me. Done.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 1:32PM Anticrawl said

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I doubt it works that easily, doens't CNET use adsense? It would be like doing nothing.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 3:53PM Mez Jr said

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They probably use that for their banner ads, but I'm talking text links.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 12:59PM (Unverified) said

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Why is there still news about this?? hundrends of people lose their jobs every day in worse situations, thats a fact. Why should i give a **** about some dude and his review. Move on with your lives!
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 1:09PM (Unverified) said

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Really... this has gone far enough. I formed an opinion about the guy from the podcast they put out and it wasn't a positive one... he was often mis-informed... which is fine for the most part but what turned me off was that while being mis-informed he still felt obligated to give an opinion which is just lazy and arrogant.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 1:17PM mgarc1125 said

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this is so stupid. jeff gertsmann sucks anyway. im gonna avoid the websites i like to visit because they fired some stupid reviewer.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 1:18PM mgarc1125 said

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i mean im not going to avoid the websites i like just because some idiot reviewer got fired.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 1:27PM FredFredrickson said

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This isn't being done because people want the guy to be reviewing... it's about integrity of journalism at gaming websites.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 1:49PM (Unverified) said

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Gamespot is off of my favorites as of last Friday. To those of you who think all of this is stupid; you are entitled to your opinion.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2007 1:27PM (Unverified) said

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If I had been to Gamespot in the last 5 years, then I'd be stopping now.
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