Tomb Raider engine to power Deus Ex 3

eidos being cheap, what a surprise

That's an interesting choice to be sure.

"We chose the Crystal engine because Diamonds were too expensive"

They should have gone with the IO Engine out of those two.

Hmm... I hope they do a lot of work on that engine because Tomb Raider Legend on the Xbox 360 was a very mediocre looking game when it was released last year. I've been playing Uncharted: Drake's Fortune on the PS3 the last few days and that game certainly upped the ante graphicswise. It's one of the best looking games to be released on a console and very, very far ahead of TR:L. Crystal Dynamics have their work cut out for them.

There's no way Kane + Lynch can beat out Manhunt 2 for the "Most Controversial Game of the Year" award. Manhunt 2 was blown way too far out of proportion.

Notice how... Days after a GameSpot editor is fired, Edios news goes through the roof. Sorry to keep bringing up this sorted affair, but it's just an interesting observation to point out.

This just in - Deus Ex 3 is a game where you run around, jump on things and fight an impossible camera. No FPS elements in sight.

The first Deus Ex game used Unreal because of its ability to do wide open environments. (sigh) Use Unreal... the second one had claustrophobic levels because of the engine.

side note, kinda funny that anything could be neck and neck with Manhunt on controversy this year!

I'd rather choose between Intel Havok engine, valves Steam or Epics unreal.

What a joke! Let's use our crappy, ugly engine because it's cheap. People will eat this up anyway, it says "Deux Ex" on it.

Not that I will purchase (note: purchase) an Eidos game until this GameSpot shit gets sorted out, either way.

People are too hung up on engines these days.

Yeah bad choice. At least it will probably run on the Wii =p. I could never get into the first Deus EX and the graphics were never 'great'. The character design and animation was poor. I got into Deus EX 2 more but most hardcore players said it was a step back. If they go for decent graphics, tight gameplay and story I'm all for it. Can they top Mass Effect though?

"Can they top mass effect though?"

I really hope you are joking, because Mass Effect had the buggiest graphics of any game this year. Noone should be aspiring to that poor a level of quality control.

Mostly because Eidos is making DX3, I won't be buying it. I'll rent it if it's not terrible though.

I especially love the part of Mass Effect where you get off the elevator and it loads, then you run for a few steps and it loads again. No idea what the name of the area was, but it was in the citadel somewhere. Loading screens wasn't what I meant by graphical glitches though. In Mass Effect, the framerate is terrible at times, and textures pop in and out at random all throughout the game.

DX3 should aspire to more (graphically) than Mass Effect did.

I don't think it was the Unreal Engine's fault, since the texture problems weren't there in Gears. Honestly I think it was them trying to get the game out too early. There are atleast 20 places in the game where it's easy to document the texture loading problems, and I can't imagine that their quality control guys didn't notice them, which makes me assume that they just didn't have the time to correct it. The FPS issues were rare, but the texture problem was EVERYWHERE in the game. Then there are a few other bugs (getting stuck, gun not firing etc) that I don't think they could have missed, but probably didn't have the time to fix. I know that has nothing to do with DX3, but this comments section is dead already anyway. When people are talking about Mass Effect in a thread about your game, you should probably know that noone is that interested (Eidos..take note)

All I can say is, good thing they have a good engine to base off of! Of course they're not just gonna use the engine as it is - they're going to, as they said, improve upon it and fit it to the game. Seeing as Legends had great lighting, water, physics, character models, etc. etc. I can see how this could be a good choice to use to expand upon. Let's just hope they don't get lazy with it!

Now's the time for you gamers to put your money where your damned mouths are.

Jeff said he's not buying an Eidos game until the Gamespot thing gets worked out. Who else is with him?

I hope the engine gets improved upon because it does have potential but I prefer they take all the time they need to build a new engine based on the opportunities the new consoles offer. I liked Tomb Raider:Legends but I didn't care too much for Tomb Raider:Anniversary cause I felt it wasn't as polished as Legends and overall looked like slightly improved PS2/XBOX games on the 360.