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Posted: Dec 7th 2007 8:38PM (Unverified) said

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??

by posting a videogame story that involves a videogame maker and a videogame console?
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Posted: Dec 7th 2007 10:50PM Vegeta has a ps3 said

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like I said before.

Fanboys=idiots.
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Posted: Dec 7th 2007 8:02PM (Unverified) said

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The simple truth of the matter is that no matter what affiliations Bungie chooses to have, it will never lose its ties to Microsoft as long as the 360 platform remains economically viable. Certainly, this entails several factors, including its viability in relation to the other platforms (PS3, Wii, Dreamcast 2, Phantom, etc.) and Microsoft's investment in future console gaming (essentially assured). However, the future looks strong for a stable relationship as long as these two remember the bottom line: the bottom line.

Posted: Dec 7th 2007 8:13PM (Unverified) said

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As a 360 owner, until they can make an HD game I could care less.

Posted: Dec 7th 2007 9:05PM SpartacusMagnus said

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Shut up honky. That's the 2nd time TODAY you've played that card and it doesn't hold any more water this time than it did last.

480i = SD
480p = ED
> 480p = HD

Halo 3 is only one of MANY games on both the 360 AND PS3 that scrifices a few lines of resolution in favor of better lighting effects, shading etc. Resolution doesn't make a game. CoD4 did the same thing as has many others. Deal with it.
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Posted: Dec 7th 2007 10:15PM Shagittarius said

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Its all ED until you hit 720p.
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Posted: Dec 7th 2007 11:00PM spin cycle said

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Uh, PAL is 625 lines and it's definitely not HD, since it's been around 30 years.
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Posted: Dec 7th 2007 11:09PM Vegeta has a ps3 said

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Yes because being HD is so essential to the actual gameplay. That's why I couldn't enjoy Halo.





Fucking tool.
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Posted: Dec 8th 2007 2:07AM (Unverified) said

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couldn't care less.
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Posted: Dec 8th 2007 3:40AM SpartacusMagnus said

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Shag and LS2/LS7,

PAL standards are different than NTSC, which further proves that the term "HD" is relative. In America, if I own an "ED" TV, I will NOT be able to see all the lines of resolution of Halo 3 (upscaled by the hana chip to 720p OR the native output of the game before it hits the hana chip at 640p). In order to see every line Bungie encoded on the disc I will have to buy an "HD" TV, which in America means it has a resolution of 720p or higher. This does not mean 720p is the minimum definition of the term "HD", it just happens to be the standard resolution TV manufacturers decided on (standards are good BTW, my 485i TV made by some Chinese knock off brand has some annoying letterboxing issues *sarcasm*)

In Europe, if the PAL standard is 625 (i or p?) then the jump to "HD" simply won't be as impressive (which may be why HD adoption rates are much lower in Europe) as you're only adding 95 lines as opposed to 240 in the States. But according to your logic, if by chance some country utilized a standard of 719p, they wouldn't have an HDTV until they upgraded to the new fangled sets which had that extra line of resolution, at which point suddenly the picture would look amazing.

Sony would have you believe that you're not watching real HD unless you own a "Full HD" 1080p capable set. Until next year anyway when they release a model with higher resolution which will be pitched as "Fuller" HD. However I'll continue watching "Half Assed" HD at a puny 720p resolution and keep kicking myself for being suckered into a purchase of a TV which obviously isn't qualified to have the nebulous "HD" qualifier branded on the frame...
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Posted: Dec 8th 2007 5:01PM spin cycle said

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You can call 640p high res if you want. It is not HDTV resolution, even though it does look noticeably better than DVD resolution.

I do have a 1080p HDTV, although I used to have a 1368x768 one (roughly 720p) and I don't deny that's HDTV.

I don't expect we'll see >1080p TVs next year since there is no standard for >1080p and thus no content available. They'll exist (I saw HDVS systems in 1988) but they won't amount to anything in the marketplace.
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Posted: Dec 8th 2007 11:37PM SpartacusMagnus said

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LS2/LS7,

That's the thing, I WOULD consider 640p "hi-res", because it's in camparison to 480p. The term "HD" is a nebulous descriptor that has been marketed as a title. High definition is a relative term.

If you think 720p is the minimum standard for the title of "HD" then you had better have a talk with Sony, who branded some 1st generation CRT TV's as "HD" even though they only supported 1080i, which is just a 540p signal interlaced on screen. Last time I checked, 640p > 540p and 540p = HD, which means according to linear logic, 640p = HD.

As for my example of "Fuller" HD, that was hyperbole. The fact is that 1080p sets were launched waaaaaay before even 720p sets were common consumer items and further complicated and confused the HD moniker.
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Posted: Dec 7th 2007 11:00PM spin cycle said

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Oh. So Bungie isn't really independent, they're a wholly owned subsidiary. A separate P&L in the MS empire.

They had me fooled for a while.

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