Rumor: Rock Band Canadian release pushed back past Christmas, Boxing Day

Well, I tried, but they're priced way too high. I'd pay 25$ over retail to get it a month early, but definitely not twice the price...

I think the shipping is going to run more that $25, and probably not going to get it before xmas at that cost either.

Isn't your dollar worth more now? I saw one going for $158 a little while ago.

Yeah I meant 25$ over retail WITHOUT shipping :S

If you want them all until the end, in the last 30 mins they generally shoot up by about 100$ or more. It's rather crappy.

I'd pick you up one if you'd want.

Just don't know how the heck I'd ship it. the box is friggin huge.

No kidding? You've no idea how awesome that'd be!! Send me an email at ed_cyclone at hotmail

Actually, many of us Americans hate that the Mexicans come here illegally, and THEN refuser to fit in. Hell, I wouldn't even mind giving all the illegals in the US already here citizenship if it meant they HAD to learn english and we could stop translating things.

I don't mind Mexicans who come here and want to be Bilingual, the whole I am a minority, cater to me mentality just pisses me off. What ever happens to majority rule?

And the French Canadians have every right to BE French, but I think the Right to have the rest of the country hire interpreters to serve them is ludicrous.

Actually, many of us Americans hate that the Mexicans come here illegally, and THEN refuser to fit in. Hell, I wouldn't even mind giving all the illegals in the US already here citizenship if it meant they HAD to learn english and we could stop translating things.

I don't mind Mexicans who come here and want to be Bilingual, the whole I am a minority, cater to me mentality just pisses me off. What ever happens to majority rule?

And the French Canadians have every right to BE French, but I think the Right to have the rest of the country hire interpreters to serve them is ludicrous.

"The thing is that language difficulties have never held games up before."

Bzzzzzzt! Wrongo, johnny! In fact, many games have skipped Canada entirely and several games have been delayed for release in Canada due to the language difficulties. This isn't something that's new. So quit acting like it is.

"It totally is. I cant remember if it's a clause in our charter of rights and freedoms or in our language act but every french language person in Canada has the right to be served in french. "

Nobody is denying that. It's in your laws. That anything released in your region, you have the right to demand French support. But here's the difference, cookie. This isn't released in your region yet. You don't have the right to demand support like that from things not released in your region. For example, someone from Quebec cannot travel to Spain and legally demand to be served in French. Ain't happening. So you cannot demand a game not released in your region yet to support your language. It will support it, when it comes. But until that time, you have dick all for rights on what you can demand from software not released in your region.

"Im going to assume you are the americans that hate their local mexicans aswell. Multicualtarism is totally awesome and why we arent nearly hated worldwide as the sates are."

Way to assume. Let's put it this way. Multiculturalism is great, grand. It supports a diversity of ideas and opens dialogue. FORCED MULTICULTURALISM breeds discontent, tensions, and eventually violence. It should also be noted on the whole "mexicans in america" thing that many are illegal citizens. Thus the term, illegal immigrants. Now, our country is the ONLY one on the planet currently debating what rights ILLEGAL CITIZENS should and should not have. Have you even heard of such a thing? We are debating what rights criminals should have. Now, go to Japan. Koreans have no rights there. In fact, they are secondary citizens through and true. Generations have lived in Japan with basically no rights and they've been stuck there since they came to Japan to help with the rebuilding. In America, if you are born in America, you are American. Period.

In Mexico, you if you plan to retire there, keep these facts in mind. You cannot get a job, period. Foreigners are not allowed to have a job. You cannot own land. You can LEASE land, but you cannot own land. Now, you have to be able to prove your assets and any given time total over $170,000 dollars. This of course is without being able to have a job or any source of income while in that country (including interest gained from savings) and being unable to own land. And this is the country where our illegal immigrants are coming from.

Now, in many, many, many of the countries in the world, illegal immigrants are often treated with distaste and hatred. After all, sudan massacre survivors are not having problems fleeing the genecide right now, but rather finding local countries where it IS a safe harbor. Hint: There are none, they get deported right back into the country they fled. This is going on right now. Only in America can we currently have a discussion on the issue of Illegal Immigrants and their drain on our health care system, economy, and long term tax drain without the mass deportings you see from other countries.

Now keep in mind, as I type, my parents live in the same neighborhood as a Canadian citizen. Nothing wrong with that. However, he has had his job here for well over 10 years and does not want to become an American citizen because then he'd have to pay taxes on his income. In other words, he came to America for the job, currently lives in the US for over 10 years on a work visa he keeps getting extended, doesn't want to move back to Canada, but doesn't want to pay taxes. And to think, in China, job fairs have riots...

"Oh by the way im not from Quebec and french is my second language. "

What's your first, Klingon?

Wow, sheppy,

You are right on the money. You just went way up in my estimation. +s for you

I'm pretty sure people on work visas still pay income tax Sheppy. If they didn't, every Canadian would work in the US.

Not history, but likely Geography... =P

Ah, well I was thinking in terms of age, not size. I've personally got two younger brothers who are both physically bigger than me, but they're still my 'little' brothers.

Because we have to pay extra for shipping, and the people on Ebay are inflating the price. Plus the DLC is not available for us to download. Plus they won't replace instruments in Canada yet till it gets released.

That is why.

hmm, i guess its easy to advocate importing when its so much cheaper doing it from a PAL territory, i never considered shipping.

How much was it? Did they have a lot?

They had like 12 units when I got it, all 360 versions (I got it around the 23rd of November). A little while later, about 3 days, they got the PS3 versions (I helped a friend get it).
Keep calling them at 514-982-0000, they're getting shipments every now and then ^_^

Wow, so do all the different dialects of Spanish gt a localized translation?

Why are you not happy if it doesn't get all the idiosyncrasies correct?
Do the British get pissed about games being in American English?

I'm just curious because it seems pretty damn pompous to me that someone would be angry the translation isn't exactly to their localized dialect.

Hi Synner, I know we might be the only nation (yes, the Canadian government actualy recently recognize us as a nation, but don't worry, I don't whant to be seperated from Canada) but we still have a very very active political group (Parti Québécois) that put a lot of pressure so that we get everything in our specific language. It's actually a deal breaker for many people here if a movie, for exemple, is not tranlated in Québec. We really give that much importance since at the same time, it creates work for our local industry. I don't know how I could put it, but it's just how many people are in Québec. They give a lot of importance on the french/québécois language and because of all the seperation crap, pleople go crazy about thinking that it's their "rights" to have everything in they're specific dialect.

Not trying to be insulting here understand, but if the only reason to have it translated into your dialect is to provide your people with Make-work, then you sound like 1 step away from communism.

I personally think that in this day and age, considering how small technology has made the world, it is probably time to do away with all the separate "nations" in countries around the world. (at least the industrialized ones.) I mean, what benefit is it to the Native American to live separated from the rest of society that they may one day have to conduct business with?

How does it benefit the French Canadians to act like they are not part of their own country?

Preserving the cultural heritage of a people is fine, but pulling your head under the blankets and pretending the world is molded exactly as you wish it to be seems a little strange to me.

There are still places like little Italy and Chinatown, but really, those people aren't' trying to pretend it is their own country inside another one.

Maybe I have the wrong impression, but it seems to me the people from Quebec get all riled up when people group them with the rest of Canadians, and they are walking around with a chip on their shoulder just looking for people to mistakenly not treat them like a different race of people crom the rest of the Canadians.

Well, if you haven's notice Synner, Canada is a lot more socialism than the US. So don't be suprise that we "look" to be one step away from communism because that's not that far of a stretch (if we compare to the US of A). I don't expect you to understand our history. Your comparing 6 millions people to something as simple as a Chinatown. Seriously, polls have showned that in some topics, Québec people and Canadian have different answers and opinions. We are that different from the rest to be considered distinc, it's not just the language. Some historic lesson for you, France colonised Québec than the Bristish won over, but the French people stayed and did not forget their original language. This is not like your spanish problem, we where here first in a way which is why we are so much more important. Ignoring this fact is ignoring history. I whant everyone to be able to live together in one country, unfortunately there is a strong movement of French-Canadian in Québec that don't whant to be associated with the Canadian part ... just not strong enough to be seperated.

Hold on now, Quebec french is quite different from French French. If a Quebecer goes to France he'll have a hard time being understood, and if someone from France comes to Quebec he'll really stand out with his language. It's basically a bit like comparing Texan to pure old-style british. If you can't stand listening to NASCAR announcers, it's kind of the same idea.

At any rate I still think forcing french onto everyone else is a hell of a dickish move, which is part of why I hate super nationalist quebecism.

Maybe I'm looking at it from the stance that us Americans have had the whole "melting pot" sermon drilled into us, but in reality, the Spanish settled the southeast, the French had pretty much west of Florida/Alabama, and the British had the eastern Seaboard if My history is right (been about 15 years) And other than the Civil war when you know the south tried to be free from oppressive centralist control, we don't have these issues.

That is unless you count the Aztlan/Atlan Movement which is a bunch of crackpots wanting to take back the southwest for Mexico, which even then isn't the same thing.

Maybe it's a byproduct of having federal control over the schools, but I am only 3 generations removed from Slovak, German, and Italian ancestry, which I am going to go out on a limb and say is less time than the history you are speaking of in Quebec, and I don't really consider myself anything other than American. I couldn't tell you anything about the history of the countries in my lineage, or the customs they observe.

It just seems an alien concept to me and a little assholish (for lack of a better word, not to imply they are assholes) to want to receive the benefits of citizenry in a country, but either get special treatment, or exemptions to the rules the rest of the country has to follow.

The closest thing we have here I guess is with Puerto Rico, where it is almost a state, but they keep voting against becoming one so they don't have to fulfill the obligations incurred.

Feel free to continue to correct me if I still not understanding. I actually find this sort of thing pretty interesting.

I don't read French and the only words I can understand are those commonly said by the Habs announcers on RDS. Why is it absolutely critical that I have to see French packaging on my games and DVDs? Waste of space if you ask me. They (the publishers) should treat the US and English Canada (ie; everyone except Quebec), as one region. Then, instead of having some gay bilingual law forced on the entire country, the French-Quebecers can suffer delays for their language alone.

The reason is that there are francophone communities outside Quebec, in every province actually, although only in Quebec does that community represent the majority of the population. Besides, your argument is pretty much the Quebec sovereigntists' argument although theirs not only applies to product releases but to government as well.

It seems to me that those pockets of francophone people would be very small and very dispersed. In fact, only in New Brunswick can I think of any significant densities of francophone people to justify that national law. Besides, I think it's safe to assume that any francophone living outside Quebec has a significant enough grasp of the English language to be able to read product packaging and whatnot.

I really don't have any problems with French (I tried to learn it on a few occasions just so I could understand those Habs broadcasts... seriously!). I just have a problem with stuff like this being forced on me that has absolutely no benefit to me, or I suspect anyone else outside Quebec, and which does nothing but cause problems... but that's for another, more serious, debate... !