Nintendo responds to Greenpeace pollution claims
by Kyle Orland 
{ Dec 12th 2007 at 5:26PM }
It took a few weeks, but Nintendo has made a public statement regarding their recent dead last ranking in Greenpeace's "Guide to Greener Electronics." Not surprisingly, the company is quick to defend their environmental standards. "Nintendo takes great care to comply with all relevant regulations on avoiding the use of dangerous materials, recycling of materials etc.," the statement reads, in part. "For example, all Nintendo products supplied worldwide are designed to comply with relevant global standards."We're kind of surprised that Nintendo didn't break out the big guns and cite the company's detailed recycling policies or the Wii's relatively low power consumption. Then again, given Greenpeace's targeting of the game industry and history of violence, maybe Nintendo just doesn't want to antagonize the environmental group further. Hey, Greenpeace, look over there! Oil spill!
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Korova @ Dec 12th 2007 5:49PM
Nothing like a little greenpiss to make a company worry about its consumption habits.
James @ Dec 12th 2007 6:05PM
Consumpt my greenpiss, Greenpeace.
Dan @ Dec 12th 2007 7:00PM
Greenpeace give conscientious people a bad name. I recycle, use public transport, and try to keep electricity consumption to a minimum at home, but because of these idiots, if you try to talk to someone about being environmentally friendly, they think your just another greenpeace psycho.
Savok @ Dec 12th 2007 9:48PM
It's not your environmental stance that makes them think you're a psycho, Dan, it's your Che Guevara t-shirt.
Korova @ Dec 13th 2007 8:21AM
Greenpeace is like a doctor who is trying to force its patients to follow healthy habits. Patient's generally ignore or get annoyed at him/her until their ass falls off. Then they freak out when it is too late.
As someone who likes to foresee, understand and prevent risks to my wellbeing, I appreciate the work Greenpeace is doing, just like I appreciate it when my doctor tells me that I shouldnt smoke.
NATO_Duke @ Dec 12th 2007 6:13PM
Nintendo - don't defend anything here. You just tell those greenpeace folks that once they stop killing whales, then you'll sit down and talk about their issues with you. Yeah, show them how it feels!
mr nimblewick (SegaDF - Jogurt Ring) @ Dec 12th 2007 6:21PM
God, I hate whales SO MUCH.
sifer2400 @ Dec 12th 2007 6:24PM
Get the harpoons boys its time for some whale hunting... lol
Synner @ Dec 12th 2007 6:50PM
We're whalers on the moon
we carry a harpoon
but there ain't no whales
so we tell tall tales....
How would you know, you don't even have a fungeneering degree?
Mr Khan @ Dec 12th 2007 7:33PM
Nuke the whales
....
Gotta nuke somethin'
required @ Dec 12th 2007 6:20PM
I think it's great that greenpeace is able to get corporations and people talking. And to you folks that see greenpeace as a big bad scary monster good luck with that.
Stupidiot @ Dec 12th 2007 6:28PM
They certainly don't seem like much of a big scary monster to me. Greenpeace appear to be more the sort of organization that prefers to whine and complain at other people and organizations instead of being proactive about their cause. Plain pathetic if you ask me...
Tiptup300 @ Dec 12th 2007 8:00PM
Greenpeace is like the Sony Defense Force, but of the environment.
required @ Dec 12th 2007 8:10PM
Stupidiot you say that Greenpeace prefers to whine and complain at other people. Please note that corporations are artificial entities, hence they are non-people. So in the future you should whine and complain about Greenpeace by saying you feel they whine and complain about nonpeople. ;)
V1L3 @ Dec 12th 2007 6:26PM
It takes a pretty special blend of intelligence and humour to condemn a group of volunteers trying to make a difference in our polluted, selfish, materialistic world.
Oh wait... You guys are from the US, right?
Never mind.
Stupidiot @ Dec 12th 2007 6:31PM
They're not trying to make a difference, they're trying to get OTHER PEOPLE to make a difference, and I say they can go fuck themselves. There's absolutely nothing wrong at all with being materialistic.
Anticrawl @ Dec 12th 2007 6:54PM
Maybe instead of bitching here about it, go to college, become an engineer and figure out a way we can keep doing as we are without hurting the world economy by trying to "go green."
You think corporations are bad now? Wait until these tree-hugging hippies take over and the government passes laws extremely regulating pollution. You'll have one or two manufacturing company suppling everything to keep things enviromentally friendly. Yeah that's what we need, the whole world on a string being pulled by some radicalist.
Either that or go take an economics class and realize the world just wouldn't work the way you want it immediately and humanity as we know it would cease to exist far quicker than any pollution would kill us. The whole would would be like the US was duing the Great Depression only worse and countries will have a reason to point those nukes at each other (i.e. over food and resources)
DemonGSides @ Dec 12th 2007 7:24PM
This post brought to you by Greenpeace!
We are a bunch of whiny hippies!
V1L3 @ Dec 12th 2007 7:26PM
"Yeah that's what we need, the whole world on a string being pulled by some radicalist."
Yeah, that would suck.
Oh, wait.
Seriously though, I understand what you're saying, but there has to be a middle ground. We don't want to have all our creature comforts ripped out from under us, but we also don't want corporations defiling the planet unchecked and leaving our kids with Palmtree Panic - Bad Future.
Some environmentalists are, shall we say, "over-zealous" (wankers), but it's always the vocal minority that gets the attention. But just because it's irritating to have a howling brat of a 5-year-old screaming at you that there's a bus coming doesn't mean that you shouldn't get off the road.
P.S. In case the sarcasm wasn't evident in my last post, I like to think that there are plenty of intelligent people in the US who do care about the environment, and if they have to be vocal to have themselves heard over the lazy, droning masses, so be it.
Mr Khan @ Dec 12th 2007 7:35PM
Captain Planet sez:
"Protect the environment, or i'll ****in' kill you!"
James @ Dec 12th 2007 7:37PM
I agree. S'all very materialistic now and we're probably all going to die for it or something.
Anticrawl @ Dec 12th 2007 7:45PM
Well, in America we have invented plenty of things to drasticly change the amount of polution that is released. The problem is we have to introduce them slowly into the economy, you can't make drastic changes.
For example: Ford has been ready to roll out their line of Fuel Cell cars since 2006. Problem is the oil company doesn't like that and they have to find a time when our economy is stable enough to put such a drasticly different product into circulation. We have to prepare for it to happen, then we have to slowly move it into the flow of our economy. You can't just say "Hey yeah, we're not gonna do this anymore, throw that stuff away, forget what you know, take this and do that."
All that said how do you feel about the Paper vs. Plastic debate? If we had a middle ground there we could certainly change the amount of polution for the better. On one and you're destorying trees directly on the other you're saving trees by using an alternative method of bagging but by producing the good you're giving off pollution that destroys trees. Either way we're gonna destroy trees.
aristokrat @ Dec 12th 2007 9:15PM
Trees are overrated. Algae convert 80% of the world's CO2, and would do more if we let them. Oil pollution on the other hand produces truly harmful NOx and SOx. Oil is irreplaceable, but trees will grow back.
But then again, no trees means erosion. And erosion leads to desertification and a shortage of arable land. Then what? And algal bloom can kill the fishes because they keep the sunlight from reaching the ocean, which kills water-oxygenating deep sea plants. But would we really miss the fish? I don't know (I don't know the entire destructive path).
Ultimately, none of these "stop using things!" plans are going to work, because most people don't care, and the Greenpeace people don't seem smart enough to get around this. Instead of complaining, come up with ways to fix things. If you truly care about pollution, get a degree, get a job, do some research, find a solution. That's exactly what the solar cell industry is doing, and once they come up with a good enough solution, they're going to be rich.
Whatever. I could go on with my "causal relationship" rants forever, especially during election season (which will eventually last 4 years, given the way things are going - "I know the current guy started yesterday, but things are fucked up, and here's what I plan to do about it"). But most people either don't understand causal relationships or don't know they even exist, as evidenced by the sound-byte factories that are today's "debates".
Anticrawl @ Dec 12th 2007 10:24PM
@aristokrat
Heh I bet you'd enjoy Fred Thompson, isn't he running Independent now? There is no way he will win the nomination for republican, which is sad because he'd have to be nominated under one of the two main political groups to have a chance in hell of winning. I love how he avoids non-issues and has a casual and often humorous response to things. Most importantly is that he's about personal responsibility and the seperation of the government from our personal lives. Eh, didn't mean to rant about him, not being paid for it (I wish) but he seems like the only sane man in the bunch. I hate voting based on the "lesser of two evils" or between "a retard who brings to much personal thoughs to the table and a two-faced lunatice who blatenty lies and changes sides whenever it benifits him."
The difference between modern-day republicans and democrates is that the former has "bad ideas" and the later has "no ideas." Put those two in a room together and you have republicans come up with bad ideas and the democrates shouting out "I know how we can make that bad idea worse."
Phillip @ Dec 12th 2007 6:29PM
It would be nice if Nintendo would help conserve energy by letting you use the weather and news channels without _forcing_ you to turn on connect24.
I hate that.
Naota @ Dec 12th 2007 8:09PM
you don't have to have connect 24 on, you can just update it every time you want to check the weather.
Phillip @ Dec 12th 2007 10:46PM
If you mean turn connect24 on when I want to check the weather and back off when I'm done, forget it. It's not worth that much hassle. And it's stupid.
If you're talking about something else, then I don't know what you mean. Last time I tried to check the weather without connect24 on, I got an error message telling me that it had to be on to be able to use the channel.
Also, am I the only one or do the emails about comment replies link to pages that are just empty joystiq pages (just ads and sidebars)?
ThornedVenom @ Dec 12th 2007 6:29PM
Wow, Nintendo is playing modest. In any case, if Greenpeace attacks back, Nintendo will be able to serve them a can of much-demanded whoopass.
Flak Beard @ Dec 12th 2007 6:32PM
I don't get it... Nintendo's been pretty good at recycling for years now! *bah-doom-bah*
Nick the Hero of Canton @ Dec 12th 2007 6:45PM
They also have to be recycling all that money. There's no way they can use it all.
Larz @ Dec 12th 2007 6:51PM
"...Wii's relatively low power consumption."
I don't know about y'all, but my Wii runs hotter in 'standby' than my PS3 running a hardcore game. Seriously. It almost melts my games that reside on the shelf UNDER it.
James @ Dec 12th 2007 7:39PM
Are you really that dumb?
Larz @ Dec 12th 2007 8:35PM
Am I missing something? My Wii gets insanely hot in standby. I try to remember to always take out the discs because I'm afraid it will warp them. Maybe my Wii is defective but I've heard others say the same thing.
Tom @ Dec 12th 2007 9:48PM
If your Wii runs hotter in standby mode than your PS3 does (even when running those "hardcore" games, which as we all know make game consoles hotter)... then I'm afraid your Wii is defective; it shouldn't be doing that.
idioteraser @ Dec 12th 2007 10:27PM
Launch unit I take it?
You have a defective gpu heatsink contact Nintendo and do a replacement. If you have any vc purchases, points, save games, miis you want to keep etc tell them that so they transfer it to a replacement wii.
The wii doesn't get hot at all unless I have the freaking sun blasting on which warms up the house by 30 degrees if the curtains are open. Seriously the couch coushins are like a car seat in the hot sun and they aren't even leather.
Larz @ Dec 13th 2007 12:37PM
Ahhh, yep. It is a launch Wii. Hmm, I'm probably past the warranty period too. Oh well, it still works fine, it's just hot!
Synner @ Dec 12th 2007 6:55PM
@nick
see therein lies the rub. Nintendo has too much money. Greenpeace is more about anticapatalism than it is pro environment.
you idiots who think you are so trendy and socially conscious becuase you suck greenpeace's cock and make comments like: ye selfish buggers must be from america wot rot! pi pi cheerio and whatever other sanctimonious horseshit you want to shovel here should probably realize: if you hadn't given up your freedoms and personal property rights to big government already, GreenPeace would be up your ass too.
Environmentalism is the new Communist movement, they were so denigrated in the 50's-70's they had to find a new vehicle for their anti capatalistic rhetoric, and you lefty goons eat it up
The green movement is about controlling how others live their lives, not saving trees.
Sidepocket @ Dec 12th 2007 7:41PM
Buggers? Are you British? You know, the other loony country that had its ass kicked by Germany, being a shell of its former self. No wonder why you have guns, your country does not allow you to have one and wants to shove a security camera up your ass.
Anyhow, I love this, lefties. I love how small your brain is that you have to put things into categories so that your feeble brain can make an attempt to try to bring order to your chaotic little world. Two groups argue this and that, calling them names and in the mean time nothing gets done and nothing gets fixed. Typical human bullshit.
In short, while I do not agree with the Greenpeace organization on this, if you come out and start labeling people in a derogatory way then you are a part of the problem as much as they are.
AKA Fuck Off
Mr Khan @ Dec 12th 2007 7:38PM
ouch, just, ouch
there really is no middle ground with some people. We'll all get cancer from breathing the air, but at least we'll have capitalism, or we live in a communist state, but at least the environment's clean
V1L3 @ Dec 12th 2007 7:39PM
Great. Thanks SO much for that. Here I am, trying to convince people that there ARE intelligent, environmentally-concious people in the US, and then you go and sabotage my argument.
"you idiots who think you are so trendy and socially conscious becuase you suck greenpeace's cock"
I hope Bush uses this in his opening speech at the next environmental summit.
Synner @ Dec 12th 2007 7:47PM
Wow, sidepocket, you are such a fucking genius, you couldn't figure out I was talking about the british. I'm American, have many guns and hate greenpeace.
@Vil3,
Peopel will car about the environment when the environmentalists pick actually HELPING the environment over just simply restricting capatalism.
That and they can't get their story straight about what kind of holocuastic doom is going to befall us because I throw a Mcdonald's cup out the window.
In case you didn't get it: Fuck greenpeace, fuck the environment, and fuck you.
Korova @ Dec 13th 2007 8:07AM
Synner, you are an embarrassment. You are so ignorant and self-centered its vulgar. You probably dont have any capital to speak of. You are an extreme individualist and not a capitalist at all. All you care about is yourself.
Being concerned about the environment is like caring for your neighbor or your friend. Greenpeace may be thinking that there is an emergency that requires intervention (like a family where a child is being sexually abused), while others think its only worthy of discussion or advice (maybe like a neighbor who builds ugly sculptures in the front yard), but everyone cares. In US, Britain and everywhere where people understand how ecosystems work.
Greenpeace loves nature as much as you love your guns.
Except you dont care about anyone but yourself. If you keep going like that, you will be America's best kept secret: not because no one can find you, but because no one cares to look.
Synner @ Dec 13th 2007 2:07PM
Sorry asshole, I know how government likes to step in and ruin people's businesses with environmental legislation based on unproven science.
I also know that every dire emergency prediction these idiots have made in the past has been false.
Environmentalism isn't about caring for the planet, it is about doing minor littel stupid things to make you feel good about "doing your part"
There is evidence that those in the american communist party have directly shifted to the environmental movement because they know it is the best chance to topple our apatalistic society.
I am a firm believer in personal property rights, personal responsibility, and lack of government intrusion. I take pride in the things I have, and don't believe I should have to share or change my ways for anyone else.
The various world environmental summits are about nothing more than taking america's wealth and spreading it around to poorer countries, that is the main aim of carbon credits. CO2 is not a pollutant, without CO2, the earth would die.
you people want to seem educated and elitist, so rather than actually do some research you just jump on whatever doom and gloom media bandwagon is currently riding by.
Sidepocket @ Dec 13th 2007 3:11PM
you people want to seem educated and elitist, so rather than actually do some research you just jump on whatever doom and gloom media bandwagon is currently riding by.
Funny, that is what I think you are doing right now.
You reacting to "lefties" and "greenist" is like the whole Communist scare in the 60-80's. Gee, were did that get us? Oh right, fucking no were. Well, it did get a bunch of Middle Eastern Military we train to attack us on our own soil. So I guess something did came out of it.
To me, you just sound like a lazy fuck. You most likely do not clean your house. Do I like cleaning my house? FUCK NO! I wish I could sit on my ass and it would stay clean forever. But you see, things do not work out that way. If I would like to have less space in my house...lets see...well first of all I would not have a ton of useless junk and only keep the stuff I need. That is...reduce. I would also use the same tooth brush and dishes again instead of wasting money buying new ones every time I eat. Hmmmm, holy shit that is like reuse and recycle!
See! Its not that hard. Now if we could get all billions of us to do the same thing it would not be as bad. Also, if we could get people to like, solve our bad weather problems (tell the people in Florida that hurricanes are not a problem) instead of bickering until it is too late we would also be better off.
In short, I do not have to "fuck my mother" because I already fucked yours. Also, using the language you did in your other post, I can see that you are a hopeless hick that is lost in a religion-like patriotism that is retarded and doing more harm than good. I just hope you guys die off one day.
Oh and about your guns: http://www.ranting-gryphon.com/Rants/2rant-hunters.mp3
Synner @ Dec 13th 2007 5:53PM
Wow, just wow. What a bigoted fucking tool you are. I see why you post the way you do. You are trying to be edgy and cool like the douche in that little MP3.
You win the internet dood. Now don't you feel big?
I don't hunt, or argue with 12 year olds.
Goodbye tool.
Justin @ Dec 12th 2007 7:04PM
eco terrorists
required @ Dec 12th 2007 8:05PM
Hey that is what I call those that throw Mcdonald's cups out the window too!
James @ Dec 12th 2007 10:40PM
Isn't this the thing where they gave Nintendo a 0 because they couldn't find any publicly available information about how green Nintendo is or is not?
Not totally related, but I hope all those God-damned hippies die in a fire.
hvnlysoldr @ Dec 12th 2007 11:35PM
In a forest fire created by not clearing away underbrush.
Ian Boyle @ Dec 13th 2007 1:00AM
These Greenpeace vegans are just annoying as PETA. They love nothing more than their meaningless (and pointless) complaining about how we are wronging mother nature. Has mankind ever dumped volcanic ash all over the earth and killed everything that inhabits it but not themselves? I think not. Greenpeace is kind of an oxymoron if you ask me. So is PETA.
Petty (Ethical?) Terrorist Assholes