After reviewing concerns about its Xbox achievement choices, Propaganda games says it'll consider removing the
"team kill" award after the
Turok launch early next year. Although CVG
reports in its headline "Turok dev to scrap team kill achievement," the quote from Propaganda VP Josh Holmes is actually, "
We are currently looking at readying a patch or solution for it if it does become an issue when the game releases" (um, looks like somebody forgot to read the story before writing the headline). That's not a definitive statement that Propaganda will nix the controversial achievement, but merely acknowledgment that the developer will consider doing so after the game releases.
Actually, a few statements made by Holmes in the interview are a little frightening. For example, he says that the team kill achievement -- which gives ten points for killing one creature, enemy, teammate and yourself in a single round -- was originally created as a joke because they found that players in their first Turok match met all the criteria. That's not exactly a confidence builder.
{ Dec 12th 2007 at 2:25PM } 
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
BananaBoat @ Dec 12th 2007 2:31PM
Would you mind removing the ABILITY to team kill? Now instead of doing it for an achievement, people will do it to be dicks. Big improvement
Fernando Rocker @ Dec 12th 2007 2:31PM
"Sorry dude... it was an accident"
@_@
Raikage (ROFLBERRY PWNCAKES Defence Force) @ Dec 13th 2007 2:47AM
"YOU TEAM-KILLING %@#$-TARD"
Other team member: "QUICK! GET HIS WALLET!!!"
rikimaru @ Dec 12th 2007 2:32PM
Achievement Unlocked
nerrrrrrd @ Dec 12th 2007 2:33PM
I'm waiting for someone to put out an All Team Killing & Griefing online game. It will be the most popular game of all time.
...cept stupid kids will ruin it by actually trying to complete the goals :(
Nick the Hero of Canton @ Dec 12th 2007 2:35PM
Instead of tossing, why not find a way to make it so you lose gamerscore? Not every time you TK (sometimes it's an accident, like line of fire. Happens on RTCW:ET a lot) but if you do it a couple times, or a couple times in a row, you lose gamerscore.
A Negative Achievement.
Korova @ Dec 12th 2007 3:26PM
I agree. There should be negative achievements, but they should be fun, like Fable.
FOXHOUND @ Dec 12th 2007 2:38PM
"Oh heavens, it would see my cohort has chosen the malicious option to relieve me of life. How upsetting, indeed."
rikimaru @ Dec 12th 2007 2:46PM
Indeed.
Marty @ Dec 12th 2007 2:49PM
"For example, he says that the team kill achievement -- which gives ten points for killing one creature, enemy, teammate and yourself in a single round -- was originally created as a joke because they found that players in their first Turok match met all the criteria."
You should only get the achievement if you accomplish all of that in one shot.
Jeff @ Dec 12th 2007 2:50PM
Seconded.
Tom @ Dec 12th 2007 3:00PM
"You should only get the achievement if you accomplish all of that in one shot."
How is that better though? So if you kill your teammate and die before killing a creature or an enemy, then you try again.... and again... and again... so people will be team-killing over and over until they manage to do all four objectives... so it's actually WORSE!
Marty @ Dec 12th 2007 3:10PM
It's not better, because that wasn't a serious request.
Tom @ Dec 12th 2007 3:34PM
"It's not better, because that wasn't a serious request."
You fail at sarcasm (hint: use "/sarcasm") but at least we're on the same page: this achievement is retarded.
J-L @ Dec 12th 2007 9:39PM
I'm sorry, but Marty's sarcasm was obvious. How the hell can you kill a creature, an enemy, and YOURSELF with one shot? Unless you can shoot yourself in the foot, I don't see that happening.
Tom @ Dec 13th 2007 2:29AM
Ohhhhh I see, one shot meaning one bullet, I thought you meant one shot as in one attempt (ie. "I'll give it a shot") Simple misunderstanding *nervous laughter* ok fellas, put the guns down, ok? Fellas?
deaftly @ Dec 12th 2007 2:51PM
"I wanna dip my balls in it?!?"
Booxatron @ Dec 12th 2007 4:46PM
Top secret documents?
thesimplicity @ Dec 12th 2007 2:52PM
Is that an image of Russ Tamblyn? Is he part of some internet meme I'm not familiar with?
WiNG @ Dec 12th 2007 2:58PM
Boo! Keep it in. Let's have some damn flavor in the Achievements.
billychaos @ Dec 12th 2007 2:59PM
As xbox live isnt bad enough. What nex???
Acheivement unlocked: "Called someone the N word 5 times in a row"
or
Acheivement unlocked: "Used 3 different slanderous terms for Homosexual"
Marty @ Dec 12th 2007 3:15PM
Oh come on, it's not that bad. I play on XBL fairly regularly, and though I detest these types of encounters, it happens very rarely. Even in Halo, if we completely stomp the other team, I rarely hear anyone yell out this kind of stuff before the next round.
DemonGSides @ Dec 12th 2007 4:16PM
Me and my friends have decided that everytime we get called anything on Xbox Live pre- or post-match, we just yell "your clan sucks!"
Even if the people all came together randomly. Gets a few good laughs.
Mr.ESC @ Dec 12th 2007 4:17PM
Thats because almost no one uses the headset anymore,huge improvement in multiplayer.Seriously every time I use the headset in Halo 3 or Gears of war I hear the word f@g every 10 seconds.
To be honest some players in Team fortress 2 are pretty coperative,same in streets of rage.I have met good people in Gears of war and Halo 3 too but the aholes ruin all the fun.
EihBeir @ Dec 12th 2007 3:11PM
"Okay, this time, how about you be Gerstmann and *I* get to be GameSpot?"
Shagittarius @ Dec 12th 2007 3:14PM
"I don't think this is a proper Prince Albert."
Shagittarius @ Dec 12th 2007 3:20PM
"Two brain cells, one arrow."
jopojelly @ Dec 12th 2007 3:29PM
Is this really bog-worthy?
WiNG @ Dec 12th 2007 3:36PM
Yes, if you define a bog as a kind of swamp?
Spell check ftw.
DemonGSides @ Dec 12th 2007 4:17PM
Spell check wouldn't pick that one up.
Idiocy, ftw.
jopojelly @ Dec 12th 2007 6:32PM
Funny thing is, I was testing google toolbar spellcheck when writing this post. I actually wrote "reaaly" and it fixed it. Maybe in the future google will be able to anticipate the meaning of my writing and fix it.
DemonGSides @ Dec 12th 2007 7:32PM
The idiocy comment wasn't directed at you, Jelly, fwiw.
Periodical @ Dec 12th 2007 3:33PM
"Ear sex is for winners."
LiK @ Dec 12th 2007 3:45PM
what a useless achievement. it only encourages such behavior. it should be a -500 point achievement just so people will not try to get it.
billychaos @ Dec 12th 2007 4:34PM
That is the best idea I heard yet about xbox live!!! They should penalize people and start deducting gamerscore!
punkasscrab @ Dec 12th 2007 5:52PM
It's kind of cool when you earn different "costumes" or characters by being a good player. It distuinguishes the good online. What would be cool is a mandatory dunce hat for the dipshits that get voted down enought time in online games. Imagine master chief with a dunce hat because somebody annoyed to many people online.
JP @ Dec 12th 2007 7:57PM
achievement unlocked
you headshot your friend 6 times in a row
Lemmiwinks @ Dec 13th 2007 3:17PM
"I can haz beezchurger?"