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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 1:39PM (Unverified) said

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Don't the god damn crackheads there realise that all they just have to make a few ads that say "Don't let your kid buy M rated games". All the parents would go ninja style on their kids and stop them from buying Manhunt 2 and stabbing a puppy after playing it.

Only guy who said anything reasonable was Richardson.

I am SO glad that no one here cares about the ratings.

Posted: Dec 13th 2007 1:45PM Duke said

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Oh yeah, he'll give fed employees time off to spend with their kids - that sure nails down a solution.

Any solution involving more legislation, spending fed (tax) moneys on lame rating systems, or any other plan are worthless - as is giving employees more time off. I fail to see how fed emplyees having a day off will change the games played by children in America.

Movies have rating systems, and games do too. We don't need further legislation on the issue.
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 3:39PM strictnein said

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Richardson's response was decent, as long as you only read the first half.
"I'll give federal employees paid time off to spend with their kids."
WTF? Federal employees already get more paid holidays than pretty much anyone else. They also have, get this, the weekends, just like everyone else does, and... the evenings!
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 4:46PM R V said

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That wii article is really outdated- the revolution? Haven't heard that in a while...
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 8:06PM (Unverified) said

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man i hope obama/edwards becomes the democratic ticket, the repubbies are fucking crazy
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 8:09PM (Unverified) said

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Yes, because spending MOAR money is sane. Wait no it's not. Vote Ron Paul IMO.
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 1:41PM Reinfected said

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And what is Dr. Ron Paul's stance on all of this?

Posted: Dec 13th 2007 2:16PM LaughingTarget said

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Just like everything else, Government has no business regulating video games. Waste to spend on it, especially when regulation of just about everything else produces nothing but expense.
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 2:25PM PezMan726 said

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RON PAUL 2008!!!!!! He deserves more press coverage than he gets from the mainstream media!
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 1:43PM ShinAntonio said

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Romney is typical, fearmongering conservative BS. But when the Pope sees gays as a threat to world peace, I guess it's not surprising.

Edwards and Obama sound pretty reasonable, as does Richardson, although his second sentence doesn't make sense. I'm sure Hillary can't wait to use video games as a punching bag to make her seem more centrist.

Posted: Dec 13th 2007 2:36PM copa said

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In related news, Rockstar Entertainment just announced their newest title.

Rockstar's Table Tennis: Societal Cesspool of Filth, Pornography, Violence, Sex, and Perversion Edition

Coming Holiday 2008 only on Wii.

Rated T for Teen.
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 3:40PM strictnein said

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You're understanding of the candidates is amazing, somehow tying Romney to the Pope.
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 3:46PM (Unverified) said

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@Eric-

Both Christian nutjobs. What more is there to understand?
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 4:03PM hvnlysoldr said

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That technically the Pope who's the leader of the Catholics can't say he accepts the Church of Latter Day Saints, Mormonism.
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 4:28PM AoE said

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hvnlysoldr, you're splitting hairs. For the non-religious, ALL organized religions have their share of fear-mongering nut jobs. Who cares if the Pope and Romney don't respect each other's flavor of fanaticism? Antonio's point is still valid either way.
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 5:20PM (Unverified) said

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My goodness, don't normal people use the internet?

(not at you Antonio)
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 1:43PM ruibing said

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Hmm I wonder what Colbert would have said, maybe something along the lines of...

"It warps the minds of our children and weakens the resolves of our allies".

LOL.

Posted: Dec 13th 2007 1:48PM (Unverified) said

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I think they should do AOT of research before sayen any thing! And correct me if I am wron but PARENTS ARE RESPONDABLE FOR THERE FREAKEN KIDS!!!!!!
IF MY KID IS 15 YEARS OLD I WOULD NOT GET THEM ANY GUNS!
And If my kid was thinking of killing people becasue playen a video game that involves killing people. Then don't you think if that was the case If they playen cooking mama they would start cooking more?!??!? FREAK THIS! Stop bring this topic up! Its old and stupid and a waste of my TAX MONEY!!!!!! GOD DAMN IT!!!!!

Posted: Dec 13th 2007 2:04PM (Unverified) said

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Yes, there are lots of games involving the use of English and even some that train you in its use, but as you can see raptor hasn't been out there "learning" it.
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 2:35PM (Unverified) said

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It is ultimately the responsibility of the parents, but in a civilised society we allow governments to put in place laws that help parents.

It is illegal in most places to SELL alcohol to minors. Now do we say that shops should be allowed to sell to anyone and parents should be responsible? No.

I don't think that it should be a crime to sell games to underage people, but a fine on the shop is perfectly reasonable, and would ensure shops requested ID for games sales.

Of course this all hinges on accepting the notion that there should be an age requirement on games sales in the first place. But we'll assume that, like movies, society has decided that certain things have certain age requirements.

A 16yr old child is probably out of their parents' sight a lot and has money and so could quite easily buy an M-rated game and play it without their knowledge. If preventing the sale in the first place helps this, what's the problem?
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 3:29PM Shagittarius said

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Fuck Parents

Once you have a child you shouldn't be allowed to participate in a democracy anymore.
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 4:30PM AoE said

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@Shagittarius, agreed.
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 1:49PM Slaziman said

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What's so goddamn hard about the rating system? It says what age the game is for and on the back it says the specific elements of caution in the game. How could that get any easier and understandable?

Posted: Dec 13th 2007 1:50PM Ghen said

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All that needs to happen is for the government to pass a law making the ESRB ratings mandatory or face a fine. But no, they'll either not do anything or they'll do the exact opposite and want to take over the entire rating system as a government entity.

Nobody ever does hotpoints like this on middle ground, its either zero or 100% overhaul.

Posted: Dec 13th 2007 1:54PM (Unverified) said

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How come not one of them knows what they're talking about? Is this scary to anyone else?

Posted: Dec 13th 2007 2:40PM (Unverified) said

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Welcome to the U.S. Government.
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 3:30PM Shmil said

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because there are so many other fucked up things that they need to fix that no one really cares about video game legislation at the moment
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 4:32PM AoE said

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if this freaks you out NeverSage... well I've got bad news; their lack of understanding of the video game ratings issue is the tip of the iceberg. Multiply it across all other issues, and you've got yourself a presidential candidate.
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 1:58PM (Unverified) said

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I think it's common knowledge that Hillary has teamed up with Liberman and the infamous JT in the past in her stance on games.

Posted: Dec 13th 2007 1:58PM Jacksons said

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So from this, I see some of them blame the parents (correct response) and some want to "go after" retailers. Congratulations Romney, you fail at the constitution and want to run for president. Hope that works out for you, moron.

The only thing I could see changing would be the ratings system. Instead of "M", why not make them Rated "R"? Parents know the movie system, why not just put it on games as well? It'd cut confusion by a lot, and maybe these fearmongers wouldn't have so much to chew on.

Posted: Dec 15th 2007 11:49AM (Unverified) said

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Video games don't use R or PG because when the initially tried, the MPAA sued them. The video game industry HAD to come up with a different set of ratings. I think most people agree it would be better if they were all the same.
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 3:49PM (Unverified) said

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Parents can understand the TV-Y, TV-Y7, TV-14, TV-MA, etc system just fine, so they should be able to understand the even simpler E, T, M, AO.
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 2:05PM (Unverified) said

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The problem is that M rated games are generally MADE FOR KIDS (teenagers, I mean). The rating is simply a CYA measure. If they start enforcing the ratings, a lot of these M rated games lose their target demographic.

Posted: Dec 13th 2007 3:44PM (Unverified) said

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I don't see how most M games are made for teens. The only recent one I can think of is Halo 3. Plus, 17 is the cut off for the M rating which puts kids buying them juniors in high school. Where a kid gets $50+ to buy the games, other than his family, is going to be a job which they need to be 16 for. The parent is going to know what kind of games the kid plays by either them buying it for him, him talking about it, or just the parent "knowing"
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 2:08PM (Unverified) said

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All I want for Christmas is MS to somehow come up with a system to refuse to play M rated games if you're under 17.
Halo/CoD4 would become a blissful squeaky-voiced-free paradise.

Posted: Jan 27th 2008 10:30PM (Unverified) said

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HELL YES!!!
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 2:16PM (Unverified) said

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Im leaning Barack 08, and this is a good example of why--well fleshed-out answers to questions. He can afford to describe his plans in detail because they ARE LOGICAL.

Posted: Dec 13th 2007 2:20PM (Unverified) said

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Hey brandon_r87,
Tough guy over the internet. But I bet your mommy doesn't let you play with games does she?
But Hey its not about us here. Its about rating system and your losing your rights as an American and not knowing it. "And I hope it feels so good to be right, to point out the short comings of others. Is there?"
{Clerks}

Posted: Dec 13th 2007 2:40PM sicsided said

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I believe he was responding to your post as it was ironic that you talk about research and going over things yet you didn't go over your own comment to check for spelling.
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 2:40PM (Unverified) said

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Please try reading your comments back to yourself in your head before posting.
Think: does this actually make any sense?
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 2:24PM Korova Pamplona said

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Edwards FTW. He basically said this is a non-issue, but if called on, he is going to do something reasonable.

Romney is just scary, like an out of control ignorant a-hole scary.

Posted: Dec 13th 2007 4:38PM Mr Khan said

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Another edwards supporter, i presume?

It always seems like he's the only sane guy in a pool of idiots (ok, huckabee is sane too, but among the pool of democrats)
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 5:21PM (Unverified) said

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Huckleberry sane? Are you sure you're talking about the correct Huckleberry? This guy is crazier than Romney. Hell, I'd rather live under a Cuban dictator than Huckleberry.
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 6:08PM (Unverified) said

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Yeah, don't forget that edwards once channeled a dead baby through himself in a court of law. The hallmarks of any sane person.
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 2:37PM ozzzy said

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The ESRB has been spot on for almost a decade now even on GTA San Andreas; the back of the box says "Strong sexual content." The thing is it's up to the parents to decide if their kid is "Mature" enough to handle a game, not the government.

All current-gen consoles restrict usage based on the ESRB, PEGI, BBFC, USK and other ratings boards. If anyone cared about what their kids played they'd RTFM or not purchase the game to begin with. For those under the age limit if you can buy the game with your own money, then you are mature enough to handle M rated content.

Ron Paul is the only candidate so far that hasn't bashed video games for political points. He's got my vote.

Posted: Dec 13th 2007 2:59PM Crono141 said

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I love the idea of Ron Paul's policies. I just know that, even if he got elected, none of them would ever get implemented. Ron Paul as president would rack up the most Veto's of any president in history, because the house and senate would constantly be wanting to spend money, and he'd constantly block it.

The only way to get libertarian measures passed is to vote for libertarian CONGRESSMEN. Its the house and Senate that make law, the executive has little to do with it.
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 6:10PM (Unverified) said

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It's too bad libertarians have the whole "fringe" stigma. People are too afraid voting for anyone but the douchebag republicans or socialist democrats will be wasting their vote.
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Posted: Dec 13th 2007 2:47PM (Unverified) said

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I agree. Edwards has a reasoned response backed up with some data (accuracy unknown). It seems he actually knew what he was talking about!

I'm glad Romney said what he said though. It helps me single him out as a Thompson-esque lunatic who all gamers should pray never holds any political power.

Posted: Dec 13th 2007 2:50PM (Unverified) said

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pLOLitics

Posted: Dec 13th 2007 2:54PM (Unverified) said

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Whatever Kids....Sorry I don't feel like proof reading.
Ok Kids...I have to go back to work now. Enough of this bull. If you feel the need to make fun of people take it to kids site. Not Important topics like losing your rights. But what do you care. You get every thing handed to you by mommmy and daddy.

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