sweet picture you got there

are you down on the farm?

Get me some whiskey, boy; I'm gonna get tore up!

i'm not really a halo fan but i did just buy the helmet edition a couple weeks ago at half price

the cat helmet isn't worth it :( oh well, good for a joke

Exactly, I have a copy of Halo 3 and no 360 and I know several others who have done the same.

well I think the reason its not on alot of top ten lists is because it was a given, and the fact that there were so many amazing titles this year. But I also think this is good because it is not as much as a "halo box" as the original xbox was which shows alot of growth on microsoft's side.

Yes, with a rating of 94 on a metacritic, it's clearly been shunned by critics. Oh, it was the most successful first day entertainment launch ever, grossing over $130 million dollars, so apparently the general public hates it too. I really hope you're being sarcastic.

I played COD4 for about 12 hours this weekend (yes, I know) and realized towards the end how good Halo 3 is. At first, I was like "COD4 is better." Then running around generic buildings and pointing and shooting people got old and I realized how shallow the gameplay really is. The strategy is plenty deep, but the gameplay is rather shallow.

Most of my buddies that were blown away by COD4 (every one of them bought it) are already back to playing at least 50% Halo 3. That game just does not get old. Perhaps it isn't GOTY this year, but it may very well be most played game on any console this year and next year! That accounts for something.

I don't dislike it because it doesn't live up to the impossible hype. I dislike it because the overall game design and single-player level design is bleh at best. Multiplayer is top notch, but, well, doesn't really apply to me.

Its a multiplayer game.

Stop bitching about something thats not its main focus.

the game started as a single player experience - and devs from all over said it was a pretty good tech achievement. They've moved away from being a great single player game to focusing on multiplayer. The series didn't start out as multiplayer, so he has every right to bitch about the direction it's taken.

I'm going to bitch because it's not a multiplayer game. If it was a multiplayer game, it would not have a single player game attached to it. Shadowrun is a multiplayer game. Note the lack of a single-player, story-driven experience. I like my single-player experiences well-made, or not at all, not like some sickly parasite attached to another part of the game.

You can solve that by just not playing the campaign.

I could, but that's a pretty terrible solution: say a game is good by ignoring all the bad parts.

no this is different, it's like 2 games in one, and they're separate. it's not like story in an otherwise good game, or whatnot, where you have to suffer through the bad stuff to experience the good stuff. if you don't like halo's singleplayer, you never ever have to touch it

@Geist
Don't be silly. A game is good if it delivers enough value given the price. And Halo 3 would do that even if it had no single-player content. That it has bad (but not entirely worthless!) single-player content tacked on can only give it more value for the same price, making it better.

@Soulblade
I don't know what Halo 1 you played, but mine had the most incoherent, shitty single player experience I had seen in a while. And it also had sick split screen and system link multiplayer, which I spent probably close to 700 hours with.

You guys should step back and read what you're writing... You're defending something with the same exact reasoning Geist used to say he didn't like it. But somehow you think you're right and he's wrong... He SAID it was top-notch multiplayer, but that the singleplayer was not up to par.

Halo 3 was a disappointment. Single player; Corny, mediocre... Multiplayer, taken out with a headshot by Call of Duty 4. It's not Halo 2 guys, and it's not the best game on the 360 like Halo 2 was for the crucial first 6 months. Those days are over.

Microsoft should buy houses for everyone on the team who made Halo 2's backward compatibility on the 360 work so well - they really made the 360 the success it is, in my opinion. That was Halo's finest hour - excellent, system-selling online mayhem, working for both the Xbox crowd and for the earlier adopters of the 360. In fact, it's probably the reason there's sort of a Halo 3 backlash and general disappointment - People were already playing 'Halo 2' in widescreen and in HD res. Halo 2 ran well and essentially stole the steam out of Halo going "next gen" a year later with Halo 3. Everyone had their dessert already. Halo 3 didn't bear it's own weight - it's a top-seller, and that is all, in my eyes... Like Kelly Clarkson - sold a lot, but not top quality.

Stop with the excuses. Are you still playing it because it's like crack and you can't stop? Or do you only put it in your 360 because not all of your friends have all the newer games yet and you don't want to leave anyone out when it's time to play?

Yea after the holidays, it'll probably be 65-70% i think.

You sir are a dumbass. Why the hell would you buy a new one? It's called a god-damn three year warranty.

There are multiple reasons why we buy multiple systems. I'm sorry your mind is incapable of understanding the reasons.

Ok you just said you bought a new 360 because your old one RRODed. How is there another reason when you already stated the reason?

In other words I got banned from live and/or I modified my 360 so the warranty doesn't work for me.

Yeah if you flashed your xbox the warranty no longer covers your xbox.

65nm chip. HDMI port.

Modding a 360 is a bad idea because it can rrod at any time and you're fucked.

"They didn't factor in the people who bought multiple 360s because their original one RRoDed... like me..."

don't get up in arms... you SAID you bought a new one due to RRoD

I'm sorry but Call Of Duty and even The Orange Box on 360 kicks Halo's arse for all i'm concerned. Best console multiplayer experience? Yeah right. Ever played Team Fortress 2?

Please. Team Fortress 2 is not even half the experience Halo 3 is. Every other part of the Orange Box blows Halo 3 out of the water, but TF2? Get real.

TF2 is arguably the best team multiplayer experience out there... not sure who's said that about Halo 3 after playing TF2.

I was discussing this with a friend today. I think Halo is among the best singleplayer multiplayer experiences, if that makes any sense. Even if its a team game, you're usually worrying about yourself, your kills, how you're doing compared to everyone else. Teamwork isn't the most important thing; you can carry a team by yourself.

Team Fortress, on the other hand, lives up to its name. It is built so strongly around team play that it encourages gameplay like nothing else-- although something many other games try for. True team play. That is what makes it so fun.

Maybe I'm biased. I can play it with 32 people serves usually... with the option for modded 64 person servers. =)

After a while the classes and the limited maps get really old, seriously in TF2 all you do in 2 of the maps is put down sticky bombs and sentry guns at the control points like there is no tomorrow. If your team isn't teamplaying, it's not very fun. I end up having to be the spy all the god damn time because everyone else is playing Heavy and Medic.

I don't think flashing is that widespread in the xbox 360. Not like the good old solder in a modchip days. It's probably because people actually seem to NEED that warranty these days. Back in the xbox days, you just didn't care about the warranty.

My xbox has been replaced 11 times so yeah the warranty was badly needed.

rrod is m$'s way of preventing 360 modding! omg you heard it here first

every 1 DAY record, too bad in the overall scheme of things 1 day records mean nothing. Halo 2 did the same thing, had a massive burst then faded in sales as it just barely squeezed into the top 25 list. Halo 3 is doing the same thing if not even worse because of all the better games out there this year

hmm i should clarify that last statement cause it looks like i contradict myself. I mean with a game that's hyped like halo is you'd think it would cruise to be the biggest selling game ever, when it's nowhere close

halo 3's already sold like 5 million copies worldwide. I don't think they care about fading out, they've already made their investment back

Sales aren't the only factor I use to judge a game, and the word 'jackass' is for people with no creativity in their mudslinging. Only exceeded by 'douchebag.'

Yeah I am cooler than you. I know that because I don't defend a game by saying "it sold a lot, and set records."

McDonalds sells a lot of hamburgers but that's not the best way to eat, understand?

Aren't you really just a follower if you just find what's popular and align yourself against it?