Sex Worker Alliance: GTA normalizes violence against sex workers

If you don't, be sure to beat her senseless.

"Does Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a bitch?"

Wow Obie, you butchered one of the most recurring statements of the past decade.

Congrats.

I coulda swore GTA 3 came out in 2001.. so they need not include stats from 1991!

people have been making dead hooker jokes for a long time

We are talking about Toronto, and if we're talking about Jane and Finch in particular, the answer might actually be yes. And unfortunately, it's far from awesome.

Pretty sure being able to carry assault weapons falls into the awesome category.

I still prefer crackdown. Equal opportunity murder simulator: For Great Justice!

Engineer is credit to team!

HAHAHAHA Great...justiiiicccccccccccceee

Wow, offensive AND to the point.

Bravo (+)

whores are people too...kind of

Well said.

best rant ive seen all day. and it makes the most sense as well. she gives the facts herself. as T.O. would say, "the proof is in the pudding".

So your solution to ending violence against sex workers is to eliminate their job - which is in fact, pretty much the oldest job in human society. Bravo.

Riiiidge Racer!

agreed and agreed.

GTA as a series is only 9 years old.
and to add a cherry to the top, GTA 3, which was the first in the series to let you pick up, fuck, then kill hookers, was only release in 2001, so it is 6 years old.

What happened to the other 7 years? getting choked a little too hard while on the job? sure, whatever you want to believe.

But we're all human, even the dregs of society have rights too... i guess.

WTF, it has value because it's the oldest industry? It's also a primal urge so they kinda go hand in hand. It has no value in todays society since all the uglies in the world have the internet to "hook up" each other.

I don't mind if a prostitute is murdered. Or rather I'm not surprised. Just as much as if a terrorist or someone else bringing down society would have died.

X-treem view. Perhaps.

Prostitutes are already dead on the inside.

Now all I can think of is someone yelling "RIIIIIIIDGE RACER!!!!!" as he gleefully drives through road construction, maniacal grin on his face.

"So your solution to ending violence against sex workers is to eliminate their job - which is in fact, pretty much the oldest job in human society. Bravo."

Ummm, no. Way to misconstrue. I think fidlious's point is this.

If your job is known to be hazardous in some way, you can't exactly feign ignorance or worse yet, blame the media for a problem which has been around for a long, long time. But hey, here's a thought.

How about, in order to stem the problem of violence towards whores, we cut the whores out of the problem entirely. Of course a vast majority of whores and even porn stars have tragedies in their past and they disconnect sex with love. Sometimes this is sexual abuse from a stranger or a loved one.

So how about we start turning all these crazy child rapist into Eunichs? After all, no more drunken stepfather fucks his ten year old stepdaughter and bammo, the victim of today is no longer the whore of tomorrow. Instead of trying to act like sexual abuse isn't a central theme to the workforce, let's work on actually stemming the problem that compels nymphomania? Likewise, no longer make a vast majority of drugs an illegal substance and start making it a controlled substance. You'd be suprised how many young females will quite selling their cherries if the government started making crystal meth a controlled substance.

But yes, he did say it. If you want to avoid violence, do not join a workforce where it is prevelant. Simple as that. I mean, I have a natural aversion to being shot, thus I'm neither police officer nor gang banger. Go fig... common sense. And likewise, only a couple retards in the world declare GTA to be the problem in the rise of police deaths instead of lax gun control and the rise of Crystal Method.

"Ummm, no. Way to misconstrue. I think fidlious's point is this."

You think his point is this? Well, you probably would know considering that YOU ARE him.

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/12/17/new-games-this-week-nights-journey-of-dreams-edition/

Also, Crystal Method is an electronic band - but point taken.

Speakeasies? We have the internet these days. Games can be distributed and sell without needing ratings...
Also, for some reason, I can't really picture the mob getting involved in video games. The reason people go after video games is because video game nerds are easy targets.

"Well that 'sucks'..
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get it?"
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You lost me.

... before I fill it?

1 internets for your win.

Why must people commit violent crimes against drug dealers. They are only trying to get by just like you. Hookers on the other hand are open game.
"Does Wayne Brady has to choke a bitch?"

you forget the internet is an international forum, prostitution is not illegal in most places outside the US, and even certain places in the US.

immoral, sure, illegal, not there.

Actually in TO prositution is legal as long as it is not a brothel and for some reason they can't do it in doors. which is very weird.

Plus you have to realize that the Toronto Sun is a piece of crap newspaper. They have been caught making up stories as well as sensationalizing everything just to sell a paper. (i.e. Today all the headlines were about the huge snowstorm that just hit and their headline was "SNOW JOB", attention whore.)

They're the Toronto newspaper equivalent of Fox News with a little bit of the Weekly World News thrown in and a generous sprinkling of 1st grade level writing.

Just a note that people shouldn't get GTA (Grand Theft Auto) confused with GTA(Greater Toronto Area).

First, no one gives a shit about your personal views on morality. kthx

But your little semantic hissy-fit is misplaced, as well. A 'sex worker' can also be a stripper or an escort, for instance, and there are many in both categories that don't engage in money-for-sex transactions, though there's often a blurring of the lines when it comes to many so-called escort services. Either way, there are professions, or ways to make a living, that fall under the 'sex worker' category, but not the 'whore' or 'prostitute' category.

It's their business, their industry, so what right do we have to tell them what they should be called?

Well said fugori. Violence against this group isn't justified, no matter how immoral you think their work is. If that's what they want to do, let them do it. And don't act like it's okay for these PEOPLE to be injured or murdered just because YOU don't agree with what they do.

Half the time, those who are so busy calling them whores are the ones paying them for sex anyway.

Gee, we've got a couple of testy guys here. Why pick on J-guy when most everybody else on this entire page is saying the exact same thing in different diction? Considering what's relevant to the topic, and to common sense, J-guy's correlation of sex workers to whores is fairly justified.

>_>

"Sex worker" is actually a catch-all term that applies to anyone in the sex industry -- not just prostitutes. Sex workers are adult film stars, strippers, phone sex operators, cam-sex operators, etc. It's a legitimate (and extremely profitable) industry that gets marginalized because it's, well, about sex.

>.> ----> :D

yay.

i think it's just sex workers of Toronto right now :(

but i'm sure they have high aspirations to match their lofty career goals :)

At the very least it deserves consideration. I don't think anyone can make a good case that violence in video games has a strong causal relationship with violence in life, but we shouldn't immediately dismiss things like this. It doesn't help our case, as gamers, in the long term. So yeah, consider it, think about what it means when someone grows up surrounded by these sorts of stimuli, what it means with regard to the way they view the world.

Yes! Thank you!

I'm used to creepy little fanboys carrying on in comments. You might even say it's "normalized". But jesus christ, it's really ugly to read a bunch of guys yapping about "whassa problem wit' sum ded hoors? Hoors get deded!"

When a terrorist beheads a soldier, I doubt these guys are saying "Yeah, that's what happens to soldiers. So what?" But they seem to think that violence against prostitutes is just the way things are (or in some horrifying cases, they think it's a good thing because bitches who have sex deserve killin').

Christ, it's enough to make me think Kuzyk is right. Except that I fear this level of sex-hating misogyny is just as bad among people who don't play GTA.