From Sonic Team?

Hell no, I expected an unplayable piece of crap like almost every other game they've made.

While yeah, you have a good point. Sonic Team make games which are incomplete crap (Sonic the Hedgehog 360/PS3), this game isn't actually their fault. It was developed by SEGA Studios USA, the same fools who made Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic Rush Adventure.
So, based on that... I expect a more polished game, however overall the story will be crap, there will be a million and one gameplay-destroying gimmicks which will just infuriate you and overall a crap gameplay experience.

Honestly, this was the last straw for SONIC TEAM in my eyes(because let's face it, the SONIC RIDERS sequel shows little-to-no promise or worth of a full price purchase)...

Next up on the execution block: CAPCOM

I'm more disappointed because of how this bodes on the Wii itself. Essentially even heavy hitting titles brought back from the dead should have the utmost care applied to it. Instead, we see companies giving the "ho-hum" treatment and expecting full price for their half-assery. Meanwhile, the only safe bets for a third party is mindless drivel.

And on the other side of the fence, those developers that ARE attempting something unique or great, are getting shit all for sales. Zak & Wiki, No More Heroes, etc.

I'm not hating on the Wii, I'm just saddened that it looks like here is another home console generation for Nintendo where uniqueness is punished and only First Party remains the reason to keep it around. Oh well, onto Super Smash Bro... OH! A NUT!

"-Controls show how bad Ninty's design decision was for its 8-way "analog" control stick"


Ehh... the same could be said for the Dual Shock style stick in games where you have to move straight in -any- direction. Every single one of those games show how bad Sony's design decision was for its "floaty" control stick. ;)

And if you tell me "but that never bothered me", well then guess what? What you mention never bothered me either.

I dunno, go into any forum discussing the game and the complaint is pretty common. Obviously in most games you are not constantly arcing in circles, but in this case it's painful.

You were criticizing Nintendo's analogue stick design, that's what I replied to.

I've never played this game, and I'm not a Nights fan so I probably won't till it hits the bargain bin.

Yeah, but I'll probably still get it. Nights was the game that got me to buy a Saturn over the N64. I still like nights better than mario64.

Of course, I'm guessing I'll like Galaxy better then JoD.

Some things don't merit a sequel, unfortunately NiGHTS was one of them, nostalgia can only justify a certain amount of sales but let's be honest here, who (outside of nostalgic people) thought that this game had any chance of coming out as a masterpiece?

I agree with you, this game was evidently rushed. Even watching videos it just permeates 'lack of polish'. Even then I'll still get it coz I'm a diehard fan, but honestly, I expected no less from the team that made sonic heroes and shadow the hedgehog. Games that, while there was a bit of promise and potential, had no way of living up to their older, more inspired, counterparts. That said, I did not expect them to make a masterpiece simply because all they had to do to do that was leave the original's gameplay fully intact, and I was 100% sure that they were not going to be able to do that. Too bad...

I think nostalgia is a valid thing to enter into a score, as long as the reviewer is honest about it.

Nostalgia is definately going to affect my enjoyment of the game.

Of course, from the sound of some of the reviews, the nostalgia works against this game - "Journey of Dreams isn't exactly the spectacular homecoming we were hoping for as huge fans of the original Saturn classic."

Well, this is the thing. Half of the reviews say it's too much like the original, and the other half say it's not ENOUGH like the original.

Which, I guess, would sum up the Metacritic rating: "Mixed or Average Reviews."

Which means God-awful, according to the internet.

I would hope they'd give the game to people who haven't played the original. Yeah, it's pertinent to give sequels to reviewers who have played the original, but considering how old the game is, I think it'd be a lot better to give this a review from a fresh perspective. Especially since time tends to inflate opinions of games from the past, and so people get unrealistic expectations of their follow-ups.

yes.

yes. and other reviewer favs as well; madden, halo, MGS, GT.

I have to agree with the sentiment that the quicksave-generation has ruined games.

Yeah the whining about the restart is unfounded, considering:

1. It only applies to 1/5 of the levels, since the other 4/5 can be finished in less than 2 minutes.
2. You have to be pretty awful at this game to completely fail a mission and have to restart. Maybe on your first time against a boss you'll die, but otherwise L2P.

I was hoping I'd enjoy Sonic the Hedgehog (360/PS3) since I was the only person in existence to like Sonic Heroes... Funny how that works, huh...

And I'm the only person alive that loved Shadow the Hedgehog.

Christmas fish? Why not change it to Babelfish after the holidays while you're at it?

Am i the only person left whose actually LIKED most of what Sonic Team's put out recently?

The only games i didn't like were Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic PS360, and both i didn't like for their story choices

i dont know man. like i said, i may still give this a rent but based on the reviews most of the Sonic Team games, i dont want to risk $60 on a dud. the last Sonic Team game i played was Shadow the Hedgehog on Gamecube (maybe PS2, i dont remember) and it was absolutely terrible. i think their main problem is that they have strayed so far from the roots of the games they make. look at Mario for example, it's essentially the same game in every iteration, Peach has gotten herself kidnapped by Bowser/Generic Villian and i have to go save her. even though its the same game, i havent found a Mario platformer i didnt like (yes i liked Sunshine). at least to me, 16-bit Sonic was on the same level as the Mario games before it but he has fallen hard since the 3D jump and that sums up the direction of the company as a whole.