somehow i thinked that the metroid prime 3 was going to use something like these because of those overreacted ads xD

They have that already. It's that cooky Japanese cop game where it scans your head and you have to duck and weave bullets and cover. It's really awkward and you look like a total tard doing it.

@ Harbl:

Even though you look like a tard and the graphics on his software weren't great (stadium shot excluded) - this is mind blowing stuff.

I'm not a religious man, but when I saw the floating targets I saw god. Ok, hyperbole but it was awesome.

He was talking about that Tokyo Cop game, not the guys tech demo. DOYYYY!

Ehh, no, the Wii didn't do it first, that fat chinese guy did.

Actually, this was done on a pc. The only Wii hardware used was the infrared camera of the Wiimote.

"the infrared camera of the Wiimote"

Which was first used in console gaming, where?

Are you talking about consoles only? This has been available on PC for awhile through:

http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/02-products/product-videos.html

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=NaturalPointKevin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AO0F5sLdVM

Ah, crap, replied to late. My first comment was in response to the one you posted at 11:00AM.

blah

The Wiimote is the first infrared camera or consoles, to the mainstrem, used as the primary controller.

It's what Nintendo do first always... D Pad to consoles, to all people, analog stick, rumble, wireless controllers, and now motion and the infrared camera for he pointer. And touchscreen to a gaming device (wich Im sure the PSP 2 will have touchscreen too)

And believe me, Sony and Microsoft will use motion and pointer capabilites in their next systems. And all because Nintendo.

Ok, fernando...

And I'm sure that a few years from now when you compose your next list of Nintendo innovations, you'll likely omit this little gem: a report about a Sony patent filing from 2003 for a pointing system nearly identical to what's happening here that uses infrared indicators on the controller to interact with a camera facing the user to interact with the application running on the console:

http://www.joystiq.com/2005/10/03/sony-has-its-own-magic-wand-in-the-works/

And, ill trooper, when was this wonderful Sony device introduced to the public, reaching tens of millions of people?

@"ill trooper":

Dude, there are pre-existing patents for just about EVERYTHING. The point is that Nintendo brought it to market, and not just as any damn optional peripheral, but the PRIMARY method of control standard for all games on the console.

Deny it all you want, but remember that Sony called motion sensitivity and the pointer device a gimmick right after it was announced... then what did they do when it became so popular? That's right.

And that's the point of the argument. It's not that Nintendo are the only ones who have any ideas, ever. It's just that Nintendo stick their neck out where nobody else will, test the water, and then the rest of the pussies (Sony et all) follow like sheep when they notice it's safe to do so.

That and "head tracking" isn't the same thing as 3D. A 3D image is viewable to anyone with the proper eyewear as it is a composite of 2 different (preset) cameras/viewing angles.

I would actually rather have 3D games than ones with head tracking capabilities for the same reason I would rather play on a standard controller than with a Wiimote- I don't have to move around and look like an idot while enjoying my gaming experience.

hmmm. You guys don't like factual timelines I see!When did nintendo do all this exactly? If you bother watching the video, you'll see that Johnny Lee devised this, and that the Wii-mote isn't even an essential part of the equation. So you can attempt to debate all you want, but what you're seeing conceptualized in this video is actually closer to what Sony has patented than what Nintendo themselves are doing, which is in itself very cool, but NOT what has been done here.

As for recognizing what you see in Johnny Lee's inspiring work (this is only one of a few that have regularily been posted days than Joystiq posts them), it seems to come down to how much you hate Sony or how often you like Mario's nuts on your chin. So just say that instead while you ignore that Nintendo had nothing to do with what you see Johnny Lee doing.

"And believe me, Sony and Microsoft will use motion and pointer capabilites in their next systems. And all because Nintendo."

@Fernado

Well it would be awfully nice if Nintendo would take a page out of Microsoft's book and do something with there shitty online service. Or better yet take something from both Sony and Microsoft and have a formal licensing process for development on their console. It's all good and well that Nintendo is innovative with there control schemes, but how much does it matter when 90% of the games on their console are all shit. I enjoy playing good games on my Wii, just like everyone else, but they are definitely few and far between.

As far as the video goes, that was some really cool stuff.

BTW Fernando, Atari had the first wireless controller, if i'm not mistaken.

illtrooper: Let's not pretend that you're -not- one of those people who would like to believe motion sensitivity is totally Sony's thing or some bullshit. That's the core of the matter.

Nintendo might have innovative tech but their industrial design team might have borrowed some of their designs from Apple.

http://gonintendo.com/?p=920

*some of it is a stretch but pretty fascinating regardless*

You guys ever play that one game with the physical movement? You know, the one that's on TV all the time and people play in two teams on a field of grass? Man, your legs are gonna be sore from that.

Thats Interesting, because if it doesn't, then the whole movement in a 3D world is pointless unless your gun could move in it too.

But I'm not that great with this stuff so I'll let him figure it out :D

in theory couldn't he set up an additional IR sensor in front of the TV that the second remote was tracking on? This way the second remote is tracked steady on the screen, while the movement tracked separately. Am I wrong in the assumption? I just assumed this is what happened.

Nintendo won't do that - you'll probably see something with 360 capabilities from them the next time - they're all about making a cheap system that will sell and make them profit.

No. The Wii Balance Board uses pressure sensors. While there's some things both his VR Glasses and the Wii Balance Board can detect they hardly overlap in that area. In fact the things they do overlap in (Leaning, Jumping, ect) is a pretty vague overlap in itself. The Wii Balance Board would actually detect the vague areas better but with the Glasses the detection would be improved. So while the Board would decect your shift in weight the Glasses would detect where your head is positioned making a crazy mutant technology where you can shift weight to one side and lean over. OMG CRAZY!

And did anybody see his foldable displays demo? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhSR_6-Y5Kg

Freaking crazy. It's less clear in that one how it works, though.

Seriously, in 1 month this guy has come up with a good 4 innovations that are each roughly a million times better than anything Nintendo or its 3rd party developers have even dreamed of in 2 years. They should be ashamed of themselves.

Pshhh. Everyone in China is named Jon Lee! (Just watched The Replacement Killers last night)

@Kazi:

Leaning and jumping are pretty much all I've seen the balance board do so far, and the goggles method can do them far more precisely. I guess it can't calculate your body mass index, but... who cares?

There's many things you can do with weight detection. Certainly not as many things as you can do with head position detection but the possibilities are there. On top of amazing detection on jumping and leaning it can detect when you lift your feet and at what weight/speed you're lifting them and moving them at (for instance more weight in your run would translate to longer, faster strides in the game), of course it's namesake it can detect balance (walking across a tight rope?). The Board is certainly more appropriate than head detection in Wiifit (as if we're going to see the Wii Balance Board applied to many games besides Wiifit 2 anyways).