Rumor: Gates to reveal HD DVD Xbox 360 at CES

You do know that IPTV are for services like AT&T U-Verse right? It's basically turning your 360 into a cable box with DVR abilities.

Not pay per episode.

IPTV is not a pay per epoisde service. IPTV is a media service (like cable or sat TV) that companies will use to push their channels through. It is coming. Period. Some Government buildings already have it and it streamlines CNN and Foxnews to your desktop (I know because I help set it up for ISEC at Fort Detrick.

They should just throw a $15 capture card in that bitch and call it a night. Fios probably won't hit my area until 2012 anyways so I'll be left in the dust unless they let me stream it off my 20 mbps down connection from comcast...

ah, cool. thanks for the info Panda. :)

'The next Betamax'

Sorry.

They should have built in HD-DVD in the first place, even if HD-DVD fails it would still have given devs more room for game data a la blu-ray. As for the rest of the add ons, I bought the 360 to play games online and nothing else, so I'm not bothered about them.

true, if the 360 had a built in Hard drive to begin with this would have also given developers more freedom ala *cough* the PS3. :)

The 360 currently doesn't need the extra space a bigger disc capacity gives. Since obviously you own PS3s have you ever seen a game on there that had more content that its 360 counterpart?

I mean look at how much is in the orange box.

Dude, Pkilla,

I dont own a PS3. I just see flaws in the 360s design or better ways to improve it. If HD-DVD sucks for a gaming format, so be it. these game systems are still new born and developers are finding new tricks every day.

but if there was a title in the near future with fantastic graphical effects that required a larger format and could benefit from it, why not?

Yea it seems the Playstation 3 had it the right way by doing the exact opposite

Playstation3 came with Wifi, HDD, BluRay, HDMI, Backwards Compatibility...

Then after some time they would offer other models that didn't have everything...

Whereas the 360 started with about the minimum, and works its way up (Elite, 120GB HDD, Wifi, etc)

and now this which would be about equal to the PS3

it does create confusion and screw over the already purchased customers :/ but hey, whatever makes the console better is all I care about...luckely the PS3 came with everything, now they just need to work on games which is obviously coming true :D whereas the 360 has the games and their working on the other stuff...sigh

What's the big deal? I'm seeing the sound and fury, but what's the actual argument?

There's no 360 SKU on the market that doesn't have HDMI. They all have identical hardware-- The difference is in the accessories they pack-in, and the color of the console/disc tray.

So this would just be one more SKU, bringing the total to five (with one being limited edition Halo 3).

Arcade - No hard drive (256MB card)
Pro - Smaller hard drive
Elite - Bigger hard drive
Halo 3 - Play-n-charge kit, smaller hard drive
HD-DVD/Media - ???

That being said, I doubt they'd do this. MS has said over and over that building HD-DVD into the console is not an option. They'd rather push the on-demand HD media features than the disc-based ones.

I doubt there will be any big news regarding the 360. Most likely they'll announce that sales were great during the holidays, that the new SKUs have been a resounding success, and that we can look forward to a good quarter because GTA IV is coming.

They might also mention the IPTV, but I doubt it's going to be a big feature because AT&T hasn't gotten their service in place in most of the country, yet, and people aren't exactly flocking to the bigger hard drive thanks to MS' severe overpricing.

If MS lowers the price of the bigger hard drive, they'll see a lot of buyers. Nobody's crazy enough to accept a 300% markup like this, unless they're desperate and buy a lot of Marketplace stuff.

Expect a lot of yada yada about the Zune, though.

"There's no 360 SKU on the market that doesn't have HDMI. They all have identical hardware-- The difference is in the accessories they pack-in, and the color of the console/disc tray."

Not out in shops but majority of people who's 360 hasn't RRODed yet still use the v1.0 Xbox 360 without HDMI.

It's not like it really matters cos HDMI doesn't make much difference unless you buy a £4000 TV that supports 1080p which itself doesn't look much better than 1080i either.

Ultimate 360...well I thought I got REALLY screwed over when the elite came out.

Consumers are fucked no matter what. Have you ever actually walked through a Circuit City? PC's practically require an engineering degree and people by tons of them. Adding to consumer confusion is inevitable at this point and most consumer have come to terms with that. If anything, I'd say creating an all-in-one box would a be a step towards reducing consumer confusion.

You knew what you were getting when you plunked down your loot. Avoiding the dirty looks from early adopters is never going to stop a consumer electronics company from improving their product every year. That's just the tech bizness.

Pro for $250 ??? HAHAHAHA! Not gonna happen this year, my friend.

The Arcade is a great seller. There are a lot of people who don't plan to use XBox Live, and simply don't need a hard drive. Do you realize that there's still a large number of Americans who don't even have broadband-- or ACCESS to broadband-- at this point? Why would they need to pay the extra for the Pro? Now that the Arcade comes with a memory card and a wireless controller, there's no reason to spend the extra money.

They won't make an XBox 360 with HD-DVD built in, anyway. It won't happen. They've been dead-set against it from the beginning, and I suspect it's because they're planning ahead. If Blu-Ray wins, they can easily introduce an add-on Blu-Ray player, while if HD-DVD's built-in, they're stuck.

Unless I am misreading what you are saying about Media Center functionality this has existed since day 1 in the 360. It was actually available as an option on the original xbox.

the only difference that would be viable would be if any games get too big for DVD9 and need more than 1 DVD. If thats the case, than the HD-DVD crew could get it on 1 disc, while the rest of us get it on 2 or more.
For example, Halo 3 plus bonus materials could have been all on one disc.

But then again, creating and producing two versions of the same game would probably end up more expensive than just pressing the extra disc.

i just realized you pretty much agreed here with what i just said, just ignore my comment above.

What does it say about our society when the porn industry has become an ultimate trump card? Yikes.

But yes, HD DVD is a lost cause I'm afraid. I think Gates is too smart to put more money into something that would just squander his efforts.

[insertUSBushIraqiWarcommenthere]

... x_0