Devil May Cry 4 for PS3 gets achievements, required installation [update]
From what we gather, this is only for DMC4, however, and not a console-wide feature, so don't expect to start bragging about your PSN gamerscore anytime soon. The idea of PS3 achievements, rumored once to be called entitlements, were denied by Sony leading up to the console's launch.
The review also confirmed Sixaxis functionality in the form of tilting to adjust the camera, and noted a 5GB required installation before you can play the game. The 1UP podcast this week also confirmed this, saying it took 25 minutes to complete the installation process, so don't expect to play the game as soon as you get home from the store.
[Update: Upgraded emphasis on 5GB installation]
[Via PS3 Fanboy]
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 4)
Intentless @ Jan 7th 2008 3:19PM
Wait wait wait... REQUIRED INSTALLATION!!
Huey2k2 @ Jan 7th 2008 3:22PM
Required Installation? Why?...
The 360 version obviously DOESN'T require the 5GB installation considering not every 360 has a HD.
So why does the PS3 version have it? Wouldn't you think that having the extra storage on the Blu Ray disk would help this?
rom @ Jan 7th 2008 3:25PM
@Intentless
You beat me to it. I find this bigger news than the achievement thing.
BTW, I think it's good that the PS3 version has achievements.
Intentless @ Jan 7th 2008 3:25PM
Thats what I'm saying... Unless they havn't bothered mentioning that for 360 yet... But my other issue is this is a console not a PC. That is why I left PCs for the most part... I but a game and play it... Not buy a game spend a little bit installing and then maybe play....
GrahamaharG @ Jan 7th 2008 3:31PM
There is supposed to be no load times when the 5 gigs is installed.
ark_v2 @ Jan 7th 2008 3:35PM
Because the installation is old news. The ps3 version has no loadtimes at all if the installation is done.
I don't know what's with this achievements thing...it's ridiculous IMO.
Intentless @ Jan 7th 2008 3:40PM
But was it known to be required before. All other PS3 game are optional installs...
copa @ Jan 7th 2008 3:44PM
According to this week's 1UP Yours Podcast, the installation is 25 minutes.
Twenty five minutes.
Personally, I'd be willing to accept a 25 minute installation for no load times, but people who aren't expecting it are going to be really surprised and pissed off.
BPM64 - The Second Attack! @ Jan 7th 2008 3:55PM
While the installation is in progress, watch TV. Or play DS/PSP. Or surf the Internets.
25 minutes may suck, but you can do something else while waiting, right?
Intentless @ Jan 7th 2008 3:58PM
Sure you could do something else... I guess the main decider though is... Well on the 360 does it have sonic load times or barely noticable load times...
25 minute wait to play or barely noticible load times... Granted if the 360 version has atrocious load times I'll concede the point but.... Come on... When I buy a game I don't go home watch tv... or read one of my books... I put the game in and play... I don't want to go back to sitting down and waiting for the stupid thing to load...
Anticrawl @ Jan 7th 2008 4:05PM
You have to install it because the read speads for the PS3 blu-ray drive are considerably slower than the dvd drive in the 360.
Jerk Face @ Jan 7th 2008 4:07PM
Christ, it's only 25 minutes. Make some fucking dinner or something!
deaftly @ Jan 7th 2008 4:09PM
looks like i'll be buying the 360 version, i only have the 40 gig ps3 and if this continues my hdd is going to fill up way to fast. i think i only have 20 gigs free atm so, this is going to be ridiculous if i have to buy another hdd down the way just to play games.
LaughingTarget @ Jan 7th 2008 4:10PM
The question is will the total load time when not installed eat up 25 minutes or more of your time? If not, then 25 minutes for no loading is retarded.
Anticrawl @ Jan 7th 2008 4:24PM
Not sure where you guys are pulling this 25 minute figure out of as fact (probably you're ass) but the developer said it currently takes around 40 minutes to install the game from the rather slow reading blu-ray disc but they're hoping by the time the game is launched they'll have figured out a method of reducing it to around 25 minutes.
25 minutes is a target install time but currently it will take around 40 minutes because of the shoddy compression tech and slow drive.
AK @ Jan 7th 2008 4:32PM
I'd rather wait 10-15 seconds between levels, than wait 25-40 mins for a first time play through.
But that's just me...
ssuk @ Jan 7th 2008 4:59PM
Phew, got some time to kill before work... Oh look, my copy of Devil May Cry 4 came through the post. I can't wait to play this game! ... ... ... "Estimated time... 25 minutes..." Well fuck.
You geeks who say "lol go outside", that's all fine and dandy, but spare a thought to those who hold down full time jobs, relationships and all sorts of responsibilities which eats time. That 25 minutes may be the only 25 minutes that person has free all week to do anything along the lines of video games. So fuck you and your ass-backwards mentality, this 25 minute installation is crazy.
Lord Chako @ Jan 7th 2008 5:11PM
It's funny how the same people who complain about having to change discs, have no problem waiting 25-40 minutes to play a game for the first time.
Vidikron (FU) @ Jan 7th 2008 5:20PM
25 minutes? I wonder if there was something wrong or unoptimized with the version they played. That seems like a gross exaggeration given that none of the other games that I've tried take that long. I played Assassin's Creed on the PS3 this last week and it did an install at the start, but it took like 5 minutes.
Either way, at least with the PS3 you don't have to listen that the god aweful noise of the 360 DVD drives the entire time you play games ;-)
LaughingTarget @ Jan 7th 2008 6:26PM
The loading in the PS3 version of Assassin's Creed wasn't exactly the greatest thing, making me wonder what exactly was installed.
LaughingTarget @ Jan 7th 2008 6:26PM
The PS3 version of Assassin's Creed doesn't exactly load quickly, making me wonder what as actually installed.
hotnutz @ Jan 7th 2008 11:38PM
I'll take 25 minutes to install over 2-8 weeks for a new 360 to come to my door. ;)
name123 @ Jan 8th 2008 2:51AM
It's no different than waiting for something to download. Which is what all consoles will do in the next generation anyway.
What did you idiots think the hard drive was for? More importantly how dumb did you have to be to buy an Xbox 360 that has a hard drive but can't take advantage of it because Microsoft was too stupid to make it standard?
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jsn @ Jan 7th 2008 3:21PM
hmm, Achievements or entitlements sounds like an interesting concept. I bet that could really catch on if someone did it right..
XanthouS @ Jan 7th 2008 3:52PM
Oh, such a clever little response there. Xbots are really running out of fuel lately.
You act as though the videogame industry is somehow different than any other, and that no company has ever attempted to simulate the success of a competitor.
FidliousWong @ Jan 7th 2008 4:29PM
Man, you could almost call them Skill Points. Then you could cleverly name them around what you do and as you get more... you could unlock concept art, music, behind the scenes....
Man, that would rock! I wish someone would combine that idea with a weapon action platformer starring some furry creature and his robotic sidekick.
jsn @ Jan 7th 2008 4:38PM
XanthouS: settle down Beavis. Don't get your panties in a wad because someone cracked a joke about your precious ps3....kids..
Deviation @ Jan 7th 2008 5:33PM
Very nice, Fidlious.
Slinks @ Jan 7th 2008 5:48PM
@ FidliousWong
Actually, Spyro did it before ratchet and clank. Same developer I know, but it just shows how long the idea has been around for
T3H WICKERMAN (FDF) @ Jan 7th 2008 3:23PM
Nice gamerscore PS3. Oh wait...
Kazi @ Jan 7th 2008 3:23PM
Finally, I can share with my friends how little life I have outside of the DMC series.
BPM64 - The Second Attack! @ Jan 7th 2008 3:26PM
Tilting to adjust the camera? It may work well, but in my mind, it doesn't sound like all that good of an idea. If you accidently twitch or get hit by someone/somethign while playing, then the camera could get completely messed up.
But, I haven't tried it myself, so it make work out pretty good. [shrugs]
Superstar90 @ Jan 7th 2008 5:56PM
I think they will have you hold down something to initiate the camera movement or something. Randomly moving cameras when you are trying to play the hardest level while screaming and getting poked/bumped by people in your house would suck..... hard.
Mike @ Jan 7th 2008 3:26PM
5 Gig installation is required?
If that's true then I'm not buying this game.
What's the point of Bluray then? WTF?
ark_v2 @ Jan 7th 2008 3:38PM
It's not mandatory. Look a bit for it, come on. The ps3 version doesn't require load times if you install it on the HDD.
Mike @ Jan 7th 2008 3:45PM
I hope not man! The article made it sounds like its mandatory. I don't think it's fair to the people who purchased a PS3 with that expensive Bluray player and we still have to download stuff.
Noshino @ Jan 7th 2008 3:55PM
since when no loading times is seen as something bad? I mean, I heard that while its being installed, there is a recap of the whole story...
Hey, did you ever play that Sonic game that come out at the beginning of this generation? yes, that one that during the loading times you could go and watch Titanic 3 times and it would still be loading...
See, if they didn't make it mandatory, people would be bitching about how loading times, so Im all up for it, tumbs up Capcom (only on this one tho)
HighFiveJesus @ Jan 7th 2008 4:16PM
You wouldn't trade 25 minutes of your life installing a game that you don't have to even remember is happening because you could be watching an episode of your favorite tv show, or a quicky in the bed room, because you'd much rather play the game THAT VERY INSTANT you bought it and have to experience the load times over and over again. They may even add up to 25 minutes by the time you've played the game to death. Seriously, i know your life isn't THAT action packed that you can't spare a sliver of time to do something productive instead of play with a game as soon as you buy it at the store.
AK @ Jan 7th 2008 4:45PM
It's a console, not a fucking computer.
The reason why people buy consoles it for pop and play.
If I wanted to wait 25-40 mins for an installation, I'd buy a fucking computer. Consoles are supposed to be for simplicity, not long, drawn out, installation processes. That's bullshit.
Imagine having a super nintendo, and having to wait 30 minutes before you can play the game you just bought. Nobody would deal with that shit back then, and noone should deal with it now.
Jhongerkong @ Jan 7th 2008 5:51PM
Btw, has anyone noticed how pretty much all 1st party and exclusive wii/gc games have no load times? MP3, Galaxy, RE4, etc.
Superstar90 @ Jan 7th 2008 5:58PM
@Jhongerkong
Nintendo has the secret to making no/little load times. Like seriously, I have like 6 DS games and only 1 has loading and it's Spiderman 3.
BPM64 - The Second Attack! @ Jan 8th 2008 12:01AM
@Superstar90:
I have over 40 DS games, and two of them have loading times: Animal Crossing and Pokémon D/P. ACWW takes a while to load/save a game for the first time each day. Pokémon takes a while to save whenever big changes are made (mainly catching new Pokémon).
Not the same as loading a game when moving to a new area, but still annoying.
Luke @ Jan 8th 2008 10:45AM
@Superstar90 and BPM64 - The Second Attack!:
The DS doesn't have loading times because it works on direct connections. Thus no spin up time for the drive to find the information, and therefore no load times. It's the same reason you see hardly any loading times on any cartridge based system. Some games have it, but as you both mentioned, those are the exceptions, not the rules. But it isn't a fair comparison to the PS3, cause that's a totally different animal.
miyagi @ Jan 7th 2008 3:29PM
It's probably there to combat loading times. I installed Sigma to my 60gig for that very reason. Running down a hallway (loads), opening a chest (loads), opening a door (loads) got pretty annoying. Otherwise it's an awesome game.
arrrgh @ Jan 7th 2008 5:02PM
sounds like sad coding to me
Agathos @ Jan 7th 2008 3:33PM
The installation isn't a huge deal is it, so you let the game churn for like 4 minutes the first time you put it in and then forget about it. Isn't this just to allow faster r/w than off of the BD disc for certain game assets? And can't it be deleted off if you need the space?
As for acheivements, although Sony did at first state that they didn't care about acheivements I seem to remember several rumors that HOME or similar updates would include a system wide gamercard like concept. Good for them if so, I much prefer using my PS3 over my 360 for straight single player games but when Assasins Creed released I was tempted over by the obvious acheivements score I knew i'd build off of the game as bad as I hate to admit it...
Speddy @ Jan 7th 2008 3:35PM
5 gigs? meh. A drop in the bucket of my 320Gb PS3...(eat that Fernando...).
Raikage (Wii FC 5508 0487 4434 0992) @ Jan 7th 2008 5:01PM
Wow eee wow you got him good!
NOT!
CM @ Jan 7th 2008 6:36PM
Borat called from 2006. Turns out, he wants his joke back.
....
What's that 1980's?!?! You want yours back now too?!
(sighs at hypocrisy)