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Posted: Jan 10th 2008 3:36PM (Unverified) said

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Casual FPS? Halo comes to mind.

Posted: Jan 10th 2008 3:43PM eJ24 said

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Yes... casual... TEH HALOZ FTW U PWND n00b!
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Posted: Jan 10th 2008 3:50PM Shagittarius said

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They should rename Joystiq 'Br0kenpostiq'.
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Posted: Jan 10th 2008 4:15PM Nigeria said

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"Br0kenpostiq" is the name of my new myspace band.
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Posted: Jan 10th 2008 4:16PM (Unverified) said

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That is EXACTLY what Halo is. Only difference is, Halo at least has a nice coat of polish and shiny-ness. This game, however, looks like utter shit.
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Posted: Jan 10th 2008 4:18PM Dr Stabbingworth said

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Ha, the first thing I thought of was Halo 2. Massive sniper magnetism and lock-on rockets FTL!
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Posted: Jan 10th 2008 4:33PM AirIntake said

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Halo isn't a casual FPS. Not by a long shot. Play on Xbox Live a bit and you'll notice that there are quite a few hardcore players there. Perhaps you guys are quick to call it 'casual' because it's not a PC game with KB/M ? I'd say Serious Sam, or even Doom is better example of a casual FPS.
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Posted: Jan 10th 2008 4:45PM D3m0sthenes said

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First thing I thought of was Halo, not that it's a bad thing. Burnout is a casual racing game, unlike Grand Turismo, but I think Burnout is a million times more fun.

CoD4 is kinda in between, but I'd say Rainbow 6 and Ghost Recon are definitely more hardcore.
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Posted: Jan 11th 2008 8:38AM (Unverified) said

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@AirIntake: There are "hardcore" Puzzle Pirates and Minesweeper players, too.

The FPS *is* the classic casual genre on the PC and now also on consoles. Wolf3D, then Doom and Duke and Quake took the largely esoteric adventure, strategy and simulator PC market and opened it up for the mass market.
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Posted: Jan 11th 2008 12:49AM (Unverified) said

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Halo 2 and 3 are MOST DEFINITELY casual games for casual gamers. No console game is "competitive" and MLG and other bullshit like that is a joke.

Doom 3 is a casual game at this point because of it's lacking capabilities, and Serious Sam was never meant to be competitive, or, ironically enough, serious.

Games like Unreal Tournament, Quake, and Counter-Strike: Source are competitive- as in not casual, depending on what you play.

You can't have a game with auto-aim, cheap and unbalanced weapons, with horrible hit boxes and next to useless vehicles, and expect it to be competitive.

Its the same thing with clans on Xbox LIVE. It. Just. Does. Not. Work.
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Posted: Jan 11th 2008 12:50AM (Unverified) said

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Halo 2 and 3 are MOST DEFINITELY casual games for casual gamers. No console game is "competitive" and MLG and other bullshit like that is a joke.

Doom 3 is a casual game at this point because of it's lacking capabilities, and Serious Sam was never meant to be competitive, or, ironically enough, serious.

Games like Unreal Tournament, Quake, and Counter-Strike: Source are competitive- as in not casual, depending on what you play.

You can't have a game with auto-aim, cheap and unbalanced weapons, with horrible hit boxes and next to useless vehicles, and expect it to be competitive.

Its the same thing with clans on Xbox LIVE. It. Just. Does. Not. Work.
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Posted: Jan 10th 2008 4:12PM Bouillestfu said

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If by casual you mean Noob FPS then there are many titles that fit in there. The Halo franchise for exemple.

Posted: Jan 10th 2008 4:06PM Mr Khan said

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Non-existent? No. Most games can be played casually (epic story-driven stuff like BioShock, Fire Emblem, Final Fantasy, etc being the exceptions), it's the added modes and completion attractions that make most games potentially hardcore

By taking out a few of the more hardcore elements of your basic FPS, you could make something with much casual appeal easily

Posted: Jan 10th 2008 4:14PM (Unverified) said

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Oooooh I get it!

So now an incomplete, uninspired, run of the mill game with all their corners cut off, is not a mediocre game, but a "Casual FPS".

Thanks for clearing that up, man.
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Posted: Jan 10th 2008 4:21PM Mr Khan said

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I did not say that

A game that lacks necessary features != a complete game that chose to go with less features

For instance, you could take Halo 3, and chop out such things as the forge, customized armor, and some other fringe features that were not essential to the fun factor, but rather made the game more "hardcore"
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Posted: Jan 10th 2008 4:40PM (Unverified) said

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But that's the thing, just because you have extra features like creating a custom player doesn't make the game "inaccesible" to the mainstream.

I'll rather have a 100 features and options and only using 1 than to have only 1 and be forced to use 1

Say what you wish about Halo 3, but even a baby can go trough setup process to play online.

Rainbow Six? THAT is to complicated for many people
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Posted: Jan 10th 2008 4:08PM (Unverified) said

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Just call it "Bullet Witch 2." Ha! Actually, I enjoyed "Bullet Witch," rails and all, though it certainly wasn't a long-term keeper of a game.

Posted: Jan 10th 2008 4:35PM (Unverified) said

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moar liek GENERIC: GAME TITLE amirite

Posted: Jan 10th 2008 6:58PM mr nimblewick said

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So your saying it's a 360 game?
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Posted: Jan 10th 2008 7:03PM mr nimblewick said

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Edit: you're

Whoopsie.
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Posted: Jan 10th 2008 5:11PM (Unverified) said

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"Casual FPS Market" shouldn't that be the Halo Market,Zing.But really even the most casual of the players can recognize a quality game.

Posted: Jan 10th 2008 6:08PM (Unverified) said

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Casual isn't exclusive, by nature. Just because Brawl on the Wii will be a "casual" game does not necessarily exclude it from being "hardcore", it can just be played casually where many titles (GRAW comes to mind) cannot be played without a serious learning curve. It probably is a copout in this case, but leave the most successful IP franchise in entertainment history out of it. It is grounbreaking in its multiplayer and unprecedented customization possbilities, and plenty daunting for first time gamers to compete in the higher multiplayer levels. Video game snobbery FTL.

Posted: Jan 10th 2008 7:01PM majortom1981 said

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This is not a casual fps. Serious Sam is a casual fps. ITs a gaame where anyone can play and have fun in because all your doing is shooting at tons of monsters. YOU die you just respawn and shoot some more. thats a real casual fps. The game in this article is not.

Posted: Jan 10th 2008 7:49PM (Unverified) said

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Creating a "causal game" seems to be most developers/publishers new excuse for shoveling out a crappy game.

Posted: Jan 10th 2008 8:38PM (Unverified) said

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lol, read the original article - who in the hell considers $50 a "budget" title!?

Posted: Jan 10th 2008 8:39PM refinedsugar said

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lol, read the original article - who in the hell considers $50 a "budget" title!?

Posted: Jan 14th 2008 9:33AM (Unverified) said

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Okay. According to your comments a "Casual Game" is what I would card an "Arcade styled game". It's simple enough to play yet, fun.

However this game is no "Casual Game", it's a "Game that's in Alpha and needs to be tested and put through some heavy testing before being released to the public"

Posted: Jan 10th 2008 9:02PM (Unverified) said

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Halo is a casual FPS because it had millions of dollars in advertising and millions of people who could spread awareness of the game. This game has neither and has no chance of getting the casual market. There's also the fact that there are lots of other cheap FPS games 10 years old this game will compete with.

Posted: Jan 10th 2008 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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There's no definition for what is a 'Hardcore' game really.

Posted: Jan 10th 2008 9:59PM (Unverified) said

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Now this puzzles me: With this game, people actually do recognize that making an FPS extremely linear is a bad thing, BUT nobody seems to have ever cared that Half-Life is insanely linear (which always drove me nuts and is one of the reasons I always liked Sin better).

Posted: Jan 11th 2008 7:54AM (Unverified) said

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There is absolutely a casual FPS market. All my non-gamer friends want to do when they come over is play a game "where I can shoot people and blow stuff up." People aren't always looking for depth and quickly get frustrated with complex controls and "annoying" side missions. That being said, 'simple' games like that should be made either cheaper or aim to achieve a higher level of arcade gaming.

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