Valve tweaking Team Fortress 2's pyro, possibly soldier

Thank you guys for the encouragement. =) It's just that right now, I'm swamped in assignments and projects (ironically, it's an art school for game design).

I have a PC instead of a 360 though: sorry Mr. ESC. =(

It's better for the PC anyway. Add me if and when you eventually get Steam fired up: xxxjerkfacexxx

It's much more easy than you'd think. It's one of those games that's easy to have fun with, but also much deeper than first glance.

CounterStrike, on the other hand. Ugh. I know I would like it if I kept at it, but all I do is watch the matches after getting the pwnstick fifteen seconds in.

I think it's more doing the same amount of damage to the shooter as the guy getting shot. The Soldier survives the point blank shots while the target doesn't.

There is no FF in TF2 by default.

They mean it sucks that close range classes like Pyro and Scout stand almost 0% chance vs a Soldier who can rocket them from 1ft away, doing 90-100% dmg, and living with more than half health. Soldier should be a midrange/high jumping class, not a melee-midrange killing machine.

6?

Well the reason for that is to cut down on grenade spamming. At the moment a defending team with a few good demomen are really hard to get past in a bottleneck. Even if you get past his grenades you can bet your life he'll have a little surprise stuck to the wall around the corner. No, I think they should be left alone. The only real class I think needs tweeking is the medic. He need to be a bit more rewarding to play, instead of the bullet magnet he is at the moment.

Snipers suck too, but you can't fix the camping twats that play them with a patch. A length of rubber hose maybe, but no a patch.

Agreed. My best games are 18 player max, and sometimes with even less players. I avoid 32 player, instant respawn servers like the plague. Too much haphazard spamming and confusion.

I really don't see why crits are such an issue for so many people, honestly. So once in a while you get to own someone with a random lucky shot. TF2 is not supposed to be purely skill based - there are way too many classes and variables for that. It's just a fun game to log on and shoot the shit out of people in for a few hours. So doing a bunch of extra damage once in a while really doesn't seem like a big deal to me.

I'm my experience, people that whine about crits, use it an an excuse for sucking balls.

Right, I blow myself up all the time. I often get fixated on the target's feet to notice I'm aiming at my own.

Anyone who complains about crits obviously has never play an RPG (either console or tabletop).

Which is kinda sad.

But you contradicted yourself. When, say, a RED player gets set on fire by a BLU pyro and is headed swiftly toward death, they tend to forget all about the battle raging on around them and instead make a beeline for health, a dispenser or a medic. That takes the RED player out of whatever particular firefight is going on - advantage, BLU.

Wounding a player bad enough may not be a full kill, but it is certainly not a wasted effort if it makes that player retreat from the battle at hand. That RED player is temporarily neutralized from combat - and may become easy prey for any other BLU player who stumbles upon the walking wounded.

I personally think the continuous burn damage should not spontaneously go out on anyone except another Pyro (who has a flame suit to explain this.) Instead, the fire should continue dealing damage until either the player dies, or finds a mechanism of healing/extinguishing (water, medkit, medic, dispenser, etc.)

*buff

Seriously only bad pyros get into a soldiers face and get blasted before anything happens. And that is pretty much the problem with class based games.

Al ot of times to support much worse players classes or nerfed and buffed when they don't need to be. TF2 was my haven for a while but I guess even here it was inevitable to happen. Good Pyros have their flame ready to go and the reason you know they are their is because they are on top of you setting you on fire. Bad pyros run across the bridge blazing the whole way they are eyed at you, of course they die.

The soldier is the second slowest class in the game, even their rockets are slow. We have to position you in such a way that are blast get you. Truly talented bastards get you in the air, but the bread and butter of a soldier is aiming at your feet and surroundings so you take damage, even if you dodge a direct hit.

Now you have a class like a Pyro or scout that can just speed right into you, and you are penalized or will be penalized for acting quickly and firing at the last second at point blank range. Never mind if you run into a spy that is in their disguised form, you give them time they don't need to get away, because you just can't turn and blast, at point blank range.

But maybe they enjoy the idea of a game flooded with Pyros and scouts constantly rushing. Now I make it sound way more serious than it is, really my second best character is a Pyro, LAWL. Also I am not really that hooked in TF2 any more. But for others I could see how this would effect them. There is going to be a horrible influx of bad pyros cause of this.

Or get it on PC... It's better, it has the better control setup and mod-ability.