Brazil ban on Counter-Strike, EverQuest goes into effect

I was about to comment on that. Isn't piracy, like, kind of what people DO in South America as far as games go? I thought that was kind of their 'angle.'

dude
i'm a brazilian, and i'm not exaclty proud to say all my wii, ps2, psone, and ds games are downloaded from the internet. games here have an abusive price, and these bans are just made from stupid politicians to fool our dumb population (which is really dumb since the government doesn't give them proper education).

Since you pay like 1000$ for a Wii it's only natural you'll try to recoup that with pirated games. Damn those abusive BR prices!

(Also, I know a lot of BR people on a MMORPG you play, and damn so many of them are stupid...)

an MMORPG *I* play... brain fart there.

@Slaziman
"on a MMORPG you play,"

Guess who are the stupid here...

Cheers from Brazil o/

no, but all the open-broadcast tv channels here are all like fox news, politically-wise :B (and only a tiny percentage of population has cable, so you can imagine the damage it does to common sense).

funny thing is, like in other poor people-population majority countries (southeast asia, anyone?), lan houses are terribly popular here (lots of them with outdated hardware), so CS is still wildly popular. Never heard of anyone playing everquest, though its client was distributed as a free cd in a magazine some years ago.

nevermind banning those games's sales... most of them are pirate here, and the few of us who like to pay the developers can do it over steam(-like platforms), so it's really a non-issue.

It was a joke. But good post, regardless, so uber plus.

yeah man!!! without these violent games, the streets of rio will be safe again!!!

HA! I just want my city back! Down with EverQuest!

It was supposed to be a reply to Jerk Face's comment. Oh well...

beat me to it ....

Beat me to it, as well.

Brazil's Chief Export is Sugar Cane, and Sweet Ass.

Blow... Not So Much.

Colombia, now there's a blow pit.

You beated me with your speed stick too.

Greedy immoral economics:

Exporting expensive products = Income.
Importing expensive products = Expenses.

"Just so you're clear: EverQuest is an attack on democracy, but censorship isn't."

@Brian Sexton

I have to disagree with you, a democracy with widespread censorship is a democracy by name only. If you misinform the public and hide facts about what the government is doing then any election becomes meaningless. It's almost as bad as banning the opposition party since you're just hiding all the reasons an opposition part should exist / deserves to win.

On your criticism of the quote I sort of agree though... It sounds like the judge had a ligitimate reason for banning them, even if his reasoning was completely wrong. If one were to assume that these games really result in "the subversion of public order" and constitute "an attack against the democratic state and the law and against public security" and that that is a legal basis on which to ban creative expression in Brazil, then it is fair enough to make them illegal. It's the fact that those games most definitely DO NOT constitute that criticism that makes the court ruling stupid.

Those are qualitative assessments, Ted; I was referring to the most basic quantitative definition of democracy.

No, Brian, you are wrong, and you don't know what "quantitative" means.

Patricia, I appreciate the criticism of my vocabulary—insultingly curt, uninformative, unsupported, and just plain untrue as it was—but you are wrong and unlike you, I will support my assertion with an actual fact. From the context of how I used "quantitative", my meaning should have been obvious, but just to clarify, here is the relevant definition courtesy of the American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition:

"Of, relating to, or susceptible of measurement."

If you can't see how that applies to what I wrote or you still think I don't know what the word means, you might want to hold off on cracking wise and try cracking open a decent dictionary instead.

I thought democracies had constitutions by default, so legal slavery would be forbidden even if that's what the majority of the country wanted

Technically, a democracy could operate without a constitution, adhering to some kind of non-written principle of decision-making, but that probably wouldn't be very practical for a voting body of more than a few people in a direct democracy, similar to three people voting for which movie the group should watch together.

Classical era Athens, the Roman Republic, and the early United States of America all had simultaneous democracy (direct democracy in Athens and representative republics in Rome and the USA) and chattel slavery.